Green Smoke Passthrough

[ctruth]

Hello
Newbie here.

I have been an avid smoker for over 56 years (yeah, I’m old).
I only wish this technology had been around 30 or so years ago. Before my lungs were shot to hell.

After some preliminary research of e-cigarettes, I decided to go Green Smoke.
Although I felt GS was a bit pricey, the benefits (as I had read in various reviews), seemed to justify the cost i.e.: super fast delivery (3 days FL to Cali); good, no hassle online chat contact and info, and a great, reliable product.

The main problem I experienced was with battery life. After the initial 20 or so puffs, the power diminishes very quickly, and even faster as you have to puff, puff, puff, to get a good hit. You begin to feel that the cartridge is certainly running out of juice pretty fast.
Wherein, the reality is that the battery isn’t producing enough energy to heat the atty elements properly.

The solution to this dilemma is what GS calls an “USB Electric Cigarette”
I love this thing! This device works absolutely great while at home, but it has no inherent portability.

A better solution can be found at esmokeclub site.
This device, “The Titan USB Passthrough is a Titan battery housing that is attached directly to a USB port through a cable.”
They claim: “The Passthrough also comes with a powerful removable 320mAh battery that recharges when connected to a PC and can provide many hours to days of disconnected vaping if desired!”
Now that just sounds super! The problem is compatibility.
Not only in the male vs. female connection from Titan to the GS, cartridges but probably a diameter size and thread incompatibility as well. I also don’t like the “switch” vaping on the titan tube.

I have ordered the Titan passthrough. My intent is to splice the tube cable of the GS to the Titan USB cable so that I can enjoy the best of both, passthrough and battery portability.

There are, of course, other options to make the Titan work with the GS cartridges, but at a cost of just $19.99 for the Titan USB passthrough, I hesitate to engage in labor intensive, Rube Goldberg like technology to get a fit when it is so easily avoided.

If this works, I will post the results.

 

[blackhat]

Can't you just get some sort of adaptor to do it? Idk what model the GS is exactly but there are adaptors to go from one type to another of pretty much every ecig. Just seems like it would be easier.

 

[ctruth]

I don’t know Blackhat..

I Googled adapters and found nothing. Besides, I have no info on the diameter of the Titan, that is until I actually get it.

One thing that is certain from the picture is that it has a female connector, which would imply that it is for a 3 stage e-cig with a separate atty (cartomizers are male conectors).

I really prefer the 2 stage of GS with the cartomizer. Don’t want to get into the expense and bother of the older 3 stage setup.

The “switch” on the Titan tube will not be a problem once I make the cable change. The GS tube is activated on and off automatically as you drag air through it, thereby providing on/off for the Titan charging configuration.

If you have a source for male/female adapters please let me know.

 

[ctruth]

ERROR!
I can't edit in here.
Cartomizers have FEMALE connectors.

 

[Kurt]

I started out with the Greensmoke. You are correct that the batt life is not great, and the auto cutoff on the batts keeps the GS from being as good a vaporer as it could be. I got the PT for the GS. Very pricy, but is quite the vapor machine! I think, however, it runs the atty much hotter than the batts do, and I burned up some carts, as in when I opened them up they were BLACK. I also was not all that fond of the flavors...very limited selection and just not all that great in general.

I wanted to try another type of ecig so I went for a 510, including a PT. No the 510 PT will not work with GS carts, and I don't know of an adapter. But the 510, for me, is simply a superior vaping experience, and is better quality hardware and cheaper to use in the long run than the GS. So now the GS is sort of back up if all else fails, and the 510 is my daily vaping device. The batteries are either manual or automatic (manual is recommended, no cutoff), and the attys are separate from the carts, unlike the cartamizers for the GS. You add your own juice to 510 carts, which is cheaper overall, and gives you far more options for flavors.

The 510 is to me a singular and uniquely excellent vaping experience which I enjoy tremendously. The GS is more like a real analog, which was I thought I wanted originally, but now I really don't want anything to do with cigarettes in look or taste, so the 510 is what I use regularly. You can add fluid to GS carts (see some youtube vids on this from Perfectelectroniccigarette.com), but you cannot get unflavored carts that I know of, so you always have the original flavor of the cart.

In general, it takes a little hunting and trying before you find the right system for you, but it is a fun journey well worth the effort.

Happy vaping!!
Kurt

 

[arkangel]

If you're looking to get the 501 type battery life with a cartomizer,
maybe this video review about using the 501 with cartomizers will help (I can't post links yet):

Forum section:Electronic Cigarette Reviews > Video-Reviews
Thread name: Video-Cartoimizers with the 510 battery
Poster's Name: DaMulta

 

[Kurt]

If you're looking to get the 501 type battery life with a cartomizer,
maybe this video review about using the 501 with cartomizers will help (I can't post links yet):

Forum section:Electronic Cigarette Reviews > Video-Reviews
Thread name: Video-Cartoimizers with the 510 battery
Poster's Name: DaMulta

I don't know a lot about generic battery names for PVs, but is the GS battery the same as other models that use cartomizers? I think the GS is an E9 batt. It would be great to use GS cartomizers with my 510 batt, and conversely, it would be awesome to use my 510 atty and carts/juices with my GS pass through, which is one serious vaping machine!

Thanks!
Kurt

 

[RIMP]

My first e-cig was Greensmoke and I have quite a few carts left but they don't fit on the kr808 (vk) that I have It's a thread thing

RIMP

 

[Kurt]

My first e-cig was Greensmoke and I have quite a few carts left but they don't fit on the kr808 (vk) that I have It's a thread thing

RIMP

I was afraid of that. Do you know what other ecigs use the E9? I should have gleaned from the slick but vague presentation of the GS site that the hardware would be GS only, and you have to use their stuff, their prices, etc. $50 for a PT!! But I was still quite naive at the time, so I got it. Well, it is very much worth the money if you are using GS carts, but I would be SO HAPPY if I could run my 510 attys and flavors on it.

Have you found other venders that sell compatible cartomizers of the GS? Especially blank ones I could add my own juice to would be excellent, or if there is a way to clean out the GS carts of their juice and flavors, as I am just not fond of them. The hardware is good, but the flavors are not so great.

 

[ctruth]

Thank you all for the feedback.

After reading Kurt’s reply, I’m a bit perplexed. On the one hand I’d like to continue with Greensmoke, but now I have testimonial proof that there is something better out there.
Truth be told, (and me getting off my mental “protecting my investment) high horse, I have experienced all the problems he mentioned with GS.

Yet, after reading some of the posts here about atomizer problems (how to clean-how not to clean-how to fix-how to get working again-etc) I have this morbid fear of 3 stage ecigs with atomizers. And I don’t think I’d be happy with a cut-off switch type ecig.

I have ordered Lorann flavorings and totally Wicked 36mg along with the Titan passthrough/battery from esmokeclub.

Mebe instead of modding the Titan PT, I should just take the plunge and go ahead and order the Titan 510 kit as Kurt did (I assume he meant the Titan 510 and not another 510).

That way I’ll have two systems backing each other up, with little or no chance of an analog relapse.

I assume Kurt has no “pride of ownership/discovery” here since he was kind enough to share his thoughts.

(It amazes me that after suffering years and years on analogs, the concept of spending hundreds and hundreds of bucks on ecig stuff seems little more than chicken feed).

 

[ctruth]

I was afraid of that. Do you know what other ecigs use the E9? I should have gleaned from the slick but vague presentation of the GS site that the hardware would be GS only, and you have to use their stuff, their prices, etc. $50 for a PT!! But I was still quite naive at the time, so I got it. Well, it is very much worth the money if you are using GS carts, but I would be SO HAPPY if I could run my 510 attys and flavors on it.

Have you found other venders that sell compatible cartomizers of the GS? Especially blank ones I could add my own juice to would be excellent, or if there is a way to clean out the GS carts of their juice and flavors, as I am just not fond of them. The hardware is good, but the flavors are not so great.

Yes. Most corporate/company leaders now-a-days are way, way out ahead of the curve, and the consumers.

Not like in the old days.

Not much in the way of pride, honesty, fairness, or convenience for your customers.

It’s all about the bottom line, and it’s gittin worse every day…..

 

[ctruth]

arkangel

Thanks for the info!!! I couldn't find adaptors anywhere on the net. And "BINGO" there they are.

They don't call you arkangel for nothing!

ctruth

 

[RIMP]

Thank you all for the feedback.

After reading Kurt’s reply, I’m a bit perplexed. On the one hand I’d like to continue with Greensmoke, but now I have testimonial proof that there is something better out there.
Truth be told, (and me getting off my mental “protecting my investment) high horse, I have experienced all the problems he mentioned with GS.

Yet, after reading some of the posts here about atomizer problems (how to clean-how not to clean-how to fix-how to get working again-etc) I have this morbid fear of 3 stage ecigs with atomizers. And I don’t think I’d be happy with a cut-off switch type ecig.

I have ordered Lorann flavorings and totally Wicked 36mg along with the Titan passthrough/battery from esmokeclub.

Mebe instead of modding the Titan PT, I should just take the plunge and go ahead and order the Titan 510 kit as Kurt did (I assume he meant the Titan 510 and not another 510).

That way I’ll have two systems backing each other up, with little or no chance of an analog relapse.

I assume Kurt has no “pride of ownership/discovery” here since he was kind enough to share his thoughts.

(It amazes me that after suffering years and years on analogs, the concept of spending hundreds and hundreds of bucks on ecig stuff seems little more than chicken feed).

If it's been less than 30 days you and kurt can send them back and all you'd be out would be the cost of the carts That's what I did and then I bought a 510 and also at V4L a vapor king It'll get easier It doesn't have to be a titan 510 any 510 is a 510

RIMP

 

[Robert]

510, 510, 510, 510,

get a 510

or get something that uses a 510 but works at a higher voltage- if you really want a cloud of vapor that will make you complete forget cigarettes-

or make you own link in my sig.- easy

 

[Kurt]

Thank you all for the feedback.

After reading Kurt’s reply, I’m a bit perplexed. On the one hand I’d like to continue with Greensmoke, but now I have testimonial proof that there is something better out there.
Truth be told, (and me getting off my mental “protecting my investment) high horse, I have experienced all the problems he mentioned with GS.

Yet, after reading some of the posts here about atomizer problems (how to clean-how not to clean-how to fix-how to get working again-etc) I have this morbid fear of 3 stage ecigs with atomizers. And I don’t think I’d be happy with a cut-off switch type ecig.

I have ordered Lorann flavorings and totally Wicked 36mg along with the Titan passthrough/battery from esmokeclub.

Mebe instead of modding the Titan PT, I should just take the plunge and go ahead and order the Titan 510 kit as Kurt did (I assume he meant the Titan 510 and not another 510).

That way I’ll have two systems backing each other up, with little or no chance of an analog relapse.

I assume Kurt has no “pride of ownership/discovery” here since he was kind enough to share his thoughts.

(It amazes me that after suffering years and years on analogs, the concept of spending hundreds and hundreds of bucks on ecig stuff seems little more than chicken feed).

Firstly, manual batts have no cutoff, and that's the point. You can hold that button down and have as long a drag as you like.

Secondly, it IS chicken feed! And no I am not affiliated with any sellers dealing in 510s. All 510s, whether they are Joye 510 or Titan 510 or Yeti 510, are the same. Just different names. My gold Titan 510 mega batts are completely compatible with my blue Joye 510 attys. You can order 510 parts from anyone, and, as far as I know, they will all work together. Additionally, 901 carts, which are flat-style, like a pipe mouthpiece, will also fit in a 510 atty. I suppose that means that 510 carts will fit in 901 attys, but I don't have a 901 so idk.

It sounds like our paths were quite similar. All I have to go by initially were reviews on Youtube. I didn't know about forums like ECF. I just wanted the best I could intelligently decide upon right away, knowing that once I got it I could learn as I go and decide myself. I didn't really care about the money, per se, because being non-smoking was priceless, and even if I spent hundreds of dollars I would still be less than I was smoking, especially if you think about smoking for a few months, which goes by in a heartbeat...or the lack thereof, I guess.

So my initial decision was GS. I didn't even know about 510s or Chucks or all the other cool vaping toys. I am a chemist though, so once I learned I could make my own juices, whatever flavor I wanted, including no flavor at all, I wanted a more hands-on model, and the 510 seemed to be getting rave reviews. I wish I had known about it sooner, as GS kit + PT is about $200! That would have been a LOT of 510 gear, but live and learn, and there are advantages to a cartomizer design in certain situations, where convenience of just getting another cart out is important.

I ended up dropping a fair amount of money in these last few weeks of vaping, because we do not know if these devices will be allowed in the US, and I like many others here want to stock up. The FDA, it seems, would really love to ban ecigs. Why? Well that's a topic for another thread (or 100s of threads here and elsewhere), but it is clear that ecigs can become a real threat to tobacco revenue from taxes, and the tobacco lobby is pressuring the FDA to ban them, for obvious profit-related reasons. So over time I have purchased enough 510 hardware to last quite a while, as well as high-nic juices to mix with VG and flavors. I do love making my own flavors.

So for me it is not cheaper than smoking at this point. But in the long run it will be MUCH cheaper! Not that I really care that much. Vaping with my 510 is so much better than cigarette smoking, on so many levels, and for so many reasons, that comparing it to cigarette smoking to me is sort of like comparing using a computer to using an abacus...smoking to me now is simply archaic and de-evolved. Its not just that I do not smoke them, I simply don't understand them anymore, or who I was when I was smoking them. Analogs are just not a good product for me. Period.

So welcome to the journey! I think you will find it is far more dimensional and intelligent and detailed than burning tobacco sticks, and that can sometimes lead, like other cool toys, to spending money. Or you can equally remain frugal and keep your costs down and still have a great vaping experience. Up to you. In the same analogy as up top, if I was only used to an abacus for doing math, and then was given a current model Mac or Dell quad-core, well, doing math calculations would be certainly easier, but entire worlds that my abacus-mind could never have predicted open up. My cigarette-smoking-mind just could never have predicted all this, and I just love life-changing quantum leaps like that...vaping is definitely a quantum leap beyond burning tobacco. If you can, spend some money, learn, enjoy, have fun...it will further drive the nail in the coffin of one being a smoker.

Kurt

 

[ctruth]

It’s not that we HATE GS, Rimp, we’re just seeking alternatives to compensate for the shortcomings.

I don’t want to return the GS, just to enhance my enjoyment.

That can be achieved with mods to the GS or with additional choice, or both.

It appears YOU have at least two vaporizers.

Thanks for educating me to the fact that a 510 is a 510 period- I had no idea.

Ctruth

 

[RIMP]

I was thinking you just hated the GS, sorry I have 3 pv's Vapor king and 510 for out and about, and a silver bullet for at home Love my silver bullet, it's avail at altsmoke.com on pre-order
It's all a learning curve
RIMP

 

[greenie]

Love my silver bullet, it's avail at altsmoke.com on pre-order
It's all a learning curve
RIMP

nice

All of the sudden I am just noticing the mods. I am on a whole new level of learning all of the sudden.

 

[ctruth]

Firstly, manual batts have no cutoff, and that's the point. You can hold that button down and have as long a drag as you like.

Secondly, it IS chicken feed! And no I am not affiliated with any sellers dealing in 510s. All 510s, whether they are Joye 510 or Titan 510 or Yeti 510, are the same. Just different names. My gold Titan 510 mega batts are completely compatible with my blue Joye 510 attys. You can order 510 parts from anyone, and, as far as I know, they will all work together. Additionally, 901 carts, which are flat-style, like a pipe mouthpiece, will also fit in a 510 atty. I suppose that means that 510 carts will fit in 901 attys, but I don't have a 901 so idk.

It sounds like our paths were quite similar. All I have to go by initially were reviews on Youtube. I didn't know about forums like ECF. I just wanted the best I could intelligently decide upon right away, knowing that once I got it I could learn as I go and decide myself. I didn't really care about the money, per se, because being non-smoking was priceless, and even if I spent hundreds of dollars I would still be less than I was smoking, especially if you think about smoking for a few months, which goes by in a heartbeat...or the lack thereof, I guess.

So my initial decision was GS. I didn't even know about 510s or Chucks or all the other cool vaping toys. I am a chemist though, so once I learned I could make my own juices, whatever flavor I wanted, including no flavor at all, I wanted a more hands-on model, and the 510 seemed to be getting rave reviews. I wish I had known about it sooner, as GS kit + PT is about $200! That would have been a LOT of 510 gear, but live and learn, and there are advantages to a cartomizer design in certain situations, where convenience of just getting another cart out is important.

I ended up dropping a fair amount of money in these last few weeks of vaping, because we do not know if these devices will be allowed in the US, and I like many others here want to stock up. The FDA, it seems, would really love to ban ecigs. Why? Well that's a topic for another thread (or 100s of threads here and elsewhere), but it is clear that ecigs can become a real threat to tobacco revenue from taxes, and the tobacco lobby is pressuring the FDA to ban them, for obvious profit-related reasons. So over time I have purchased enough 510 hardware to last quite a while, as well as high-nic juices to mix with VG and flavors. I do love making my own flavors.

So for me it is not cheaper than smoking at this point. But in the long run it will be MUCH cheaper! Not that I really care that much. Vaping with my 510 is so much better than cigarette smoking, on so many levels, and for so many reasons, that comparing it to cigarette smoking to me is sort of like comparing using a computer to using an abacus...smoking to me now is simply archaic and de-evolved. Its not just that I do not smoke them, I simply don't understand them anymore, or who I was when I was smoking them. Analogs are just not a good product for me. Period.

So welcome to the journey! I think you will find it is far more dimensional and intelligent and detailed than burning tobacco sticks, and that can sometimes lead, like other cool toys, to spending money. Or you can equally remain frugal and keep your costs down and still have a great vaping experience. Up to you. In the same analogy as up top, if I was only used to an abacus for doing math, and then was given a current model Mac or Dell quad-core, well, doing math calculations would be certainly easier, but entire worlds that my abacus-mind could never have predicted open up. My cigarette-smoking-mind just could never have predicted all this, and I just love life-changing quantum leaps like that...vaping is definitely a quantum leap beyond burning tobacco. If you can, spend some money, learn, enjoy, have fun...it will further drive the nail in the coffin of one being a smoker.

Kurt

speaking of "life-changing quantum leaps"

Tomorrow is Columbus Day. USPS will not be delivering (except in Philadelphia I think). So that means my e-liquid stuff won’t be here until Tuesday at the earliest.
Possibly Wednesday, or (good lawd) Thursday!

I am down to three fresh carts, it’s Sunday afternoon.

I have another three old carts filled with water soaking for 36 hours now. If I have to, I will siphon off the water with a needle, and try to jump start some of the other carts. Just to get through till delivery. I’ve also found that I can extend used carts somewhat by injecting a few drops of clear water in them. I think I can make it through. At this point I would be willing to drop at least $30.00 if i could get a delivery tomorrow!

Now, am I doing all this because I don’t want to relapse, am I really doing this to squeeze out another few days smoke-free, or am I already a vapor junkee?

I dunno.

And I suppose, the beautiful thing here is, I don’t care!

Just hurry up with my friggin shipment!

Thanks for the inspiration.

ctruth

 

[Kurt]

ctruth, I've not heard about the water drops to extend a cartomizer, but for the short term it might be ok, but possibly not. Not sure what that will do to the atty, may well kill it...or you!

Same with the washing. Best to get some VG and try to inject that into the carts. Hell, shove a snus into a cart with some VG, and you'll be fine!

I couldn't have predicted who I would be after I started vaping, so there is no way whatever I did was a mistake. Just learning, as you said. All good, all fun, life's good without analogs. Be good to yourself!