Hey PlanofMan, those are great stems at that link, thanks!
Not to mention it's that time of year. When China grinds to a halt and nothing happens for almost a month. Happy Chinese New Year![]()
Hey guys, I'm at the end of my rope.
If anyone has the Hcigar version of the hammer and can tell me the thread count of the screw, length, post diameter and head diameter I would be a very happy boy. If you dont have a thread tester your local hardware store or machine shop should be able to tell.
I have literally been hiking all over Philadelphia the past two days trying to get this sorted.
I have been to a few local ecig stores, fastener shops and hardware stores and nobody can help me unless they "have the screw" I think it's around 4-48 but I'm not 100% sure. I really dont want to buy a new hammer after only having this one for a week.
Thanks so much.
I almost always run my Hammer in this configuration too. Your looks awesome in this config
Heres my Hammer setup, usually with a Steam Turbine clone minus the tank protector sleeve.
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Quick question, I've been eyeing up the hammer and my local B&M has the tobeco clone for $50. Should I Buy or Pass?
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my question is this:
you hear so many people talking about these designers loosing all this money because these guys are making duplicate clones of the originals.
is it just possible that its all a big game?
is it possible that maybe these so-called "designers" are in league with the people who "clone" these devices?
now follow me on this.
designer makes this awesome looking device/tak/ect/ect/ect and slaps it out there for say $275 bucks ( that actually probably only costs him $10 bucks in parts to make)
now the average vaping joe whos not independently wealthy who works his 40+ hour week, pays his bills,ect cant afford to slap $275 on the table to buy something that pretty much equates to a "luxury" item.
so the original designer gets with his brother in laws cousins uncles best friends sisters neighbor and says "hey man, tell you what, heres the plans to such and such. i designed it and prototyped it and made a few and i was gonna sell them for $275 apiece, but their not selling. now, if you can produce these as a 1:1 "clone" of my original design for say,$3 bucks apiece in quantity, we can sell them in the $50 range and make ooodles of money"
now vaping joe sees the "clone" at $50 bucks apiece, and guess what, it just came into his price range and is no longer a high dollar "luxury" item. at this point hes thinking "hell, $50? i can hide that from the wife, and ill tell her that vaping steve at work traded me another mod for it or something"
ive seen alot of original devices, and alot of clones. alot of the time, the clones are virtually identical to the original, same materials, same quality ( or in some cases, the clones BETTER quality than the original designed device) so why WOULDNT you buy the clone, especially if its a 1:1 copy??...alot of the clones are identical in pretty much every way, close enough that 99% of the time, a person wouldnt know the difference.
for instance my bro has an original vicious ant kraken tank he paid like $250 bucks for, ive got a clone i purchased on ebay. we have sat them side by side and examined them one end t the other, and they are literally virtually IDENTICAL in every way, down to the serial number etching , all the lettering,ect,ect. identical.
doesnt that make you wonder if what i mentioned earlier is whats happening, or does it make you wonder why these so-called "designers" are charging so damn much when an identical repop can be done for virtually a miniscule fraction of the original price? maybe the original is just fancy high $$ advertising for the 'clone" thats soon to come?
so before hacking the hell out of these so called counterfeiters you might take the time to ask yourself those questions, and if they were literally doing this ..... without permission, why aren't there billions of dollars worth of lawsuits,ect going on constantly and why are they still able to sell the clones of the originals? cant tell me its because other countries dont have this law or that law cause i know for a fact that in china you are able to sue for stuff like this (a bros father who lives there did and won a bundle on an invention of his) , and even do so internationally....
if you had two identical devices sitting side by side at the same shop, one an original for $275 bucks and a 1:1 copy OF THE original for $25, they both look identical, operate identically,ect. which would you buy?
my question is this:
you hear so many people talking about these designers loosing all this money because these guys are making duplicate clones of the originals.
is it just possible that its all a big game?
is it possible that maybe these so-called "designers" are in league with the people who "clone" these devices?
now follow me on this.
designer makes this awesome looking device/tak/ect/ect/ect and slaps it out there for say $275 bucks ( that actually probably only costs him $10 bucks in parts to make)
now the average vaping joe whos not independently wealthy who works his 40+ hour week, pays his bills,ect cant afford to slap $275 on the table to buy something that pretty much equates to a "luxury" item.
so the original designer gets with his brother in laws cousins uncles best friends sisters neighbor and says "hey man, tell you what, heres the plans to such and such. i designed it and prototyped it and made a few and i was gonna sell them for $275 apiece, but their not selling. now, if you can produce these as a 1:1 "clone" of my original design for say,$3 bucks apiece in quantity, we can sell them in the $50 range and make ooodles of money"
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Kick start a mod business?
Horrible idea. The last thing this industry needs is another Modder operating on a half assed business model.
That's why these mods have preorders and raffles ans cost so much.
Of mods were 2 or even 3 times the cost of a clone things would be different, but when you can buy a clone for 1/10 the cost of a legit mod it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to see something is wrong here.
Modders are victims of their own poor business plan.
Can anyone confirm the Tobeco clone is solid steel and not plated?
I have a recent (9000+) Tobeco and really want to buff off the art and re-engrave it...but if it's plated that wont go so well.
I've filed down the edges so they are not as sharp. This is 100% stainless steel.Can anyone confirm the Tobeco clone is solid steel and not plated?
I have a recent (9000+) Tobeco and really want to buff off the art and re-engrave it...but if it's plated that wont go so well.