HARSH VAPOR, lots of coughing & can't breathe! Newbie Help!!

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brisk7188

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Can you guys help with some advise too......Please

I started e- smoking on 10/10/09 and completely stopped analogs.And for a week everything was fine.. With my (Smokeanywhere) style e-cig with the (high marbo carts and coffe,bananna,)

Then i order a dse901 and some e-liquid all 18mg. the first 2days i was fine..
Then I also am having some chest tightness. And all the sudden sore throat issue's.. When i inhale it burns.. ( like if you been drinkin at a party allnight and smoking a lot. Like marlbro reds and you wake up the next day and your lung fill tight that's the feeling..) Anyways .....

So When i came home for lunch i changed from 18mg To (Low i think 6mg a sample i recieved for free..) At first its still burned the throat because it's sore. i heared that happens.. but after a few drags it goes away. and then about 2 or 3 hour later my lungs didnt feel so tight anymore... and if i stop vapin for a while... and start vapin again my throat burns again for the first 5 hits and then goes away again... WHY??????????.


I think its the 18mg and the dse901 way better machine and liquid then the little mall kits right????? so im stick to low 6mg for now.... and this all happened tonight within the last 8 hours i work night shift..


Cant i have some thoughts please thank you i dont want to quit the e-cig.

And before i started the e-cig i smoked (AMERICAN SPIRIT ULTRA LIGHTS)

Thank you . :confused:
 

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Brisk if you don't vape for a while and then have a go you will feel a 'burning' and sore throat, thats the Nic, same thing happens with gum, you get used to it.Drink plenty of water etc.

The chest tightening could be an alergy to the PG liquid, sometimes it takes some time with some people for it to develope, try some of the VG juice.
 

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If I had judged the e-cig by the first few timers I used them I might have given up on them. But I was determined to help out my lungs and continued until I ended up breaking in the atomizer and developing my vaping technique. There is a learning curve you have to go through to get the most from your e-cig. Do the same and you will get the technique down and your atomizer broken in. I promise you that you will be glad you did in the long run.

Best of luck, Elapid---<
I agree, I got my Vapor King last Friday and I coughed every time I used it. I also thought the vapor was very harsh! But after a few days of practice, I got the hang of it and I love it. I have ordered some low nic flavors, although I am now used to the 18 & 24 menthol and Nuport Flavors. Hang in there, I think I was sucking it right into my throat, and I find with an analog, I draw smoke into my mouh first, THEN inhale.
 

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thanks for all the replys, I am going to clean atty's and pick up some vg tomorrow. After trying it again before bed I am honestly wondering if it's not some sort of allergic reaction somehow?? anyone heard of that?

like i said 36 mg totally wicked juice. i'll go get some VG tomorrow, tried to find some this morning no luck at walmart, will hit walgreens tomorrow.

can i just put plain VG on the atty to see if it is atty or juice since the other juice i ordered hasn't come in yet?

thanks again for the replys, i am definitely going to be dedicated and try to make this work even if I have to try another e-cig, which might have to wait a while due to budget issues. but i'll keep trying the 510 and suggestions! you guys are great~

my 510 took a little while for me to get used to @24 MG it could definately be the strength of your e-liquid.

Also I have heard of some people having a reaction to PG as well but switching over to an all VG liquid aleviated those problems you might want to straight up switch to a lower strength all vg based liquid maybe closer to 24-18 mg....
 

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From my own newby experience, 36mg will be too harsh period. I bought that just to cut it down to 18mg. The good thing is you can always dilute with PG/VG and then add a few drops of your 36mg liquid till you get it to the right spot you like it at. For me 18mg is just about perfect. Not weak and not too strong. I myself smoked Marlboro 100's a pack or so a day since I was 13, and lets just say that was a looooooooooooooong time ago and 18mg was a nice change.
 

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thank you for your reponse .....

I think i figured it out.... are there bad atomizer there .... trip on this.

i try all my e-liquid 18mg and 11mg then a sample i got 6mg. i thought maybe it was to high mg of nic ... but then i realize i was dipping for a day with the little mallkit i have and had no problems with the 18 mg.. It was a little harsh but no throat burn or tightness of chest and nausea and sencative to light i experiance for about 4 mins on my way to work yesterday... for 2 days i felt this. Tues and Weds .And i recieve my dse901 mini on monday...

Then i realized somthin mabye its the atomizer.... 5mins before i change out the atomizer that came with the dse901 i took one more big drag and it burn my throat and felt like it made my chest tightin up again........

So i relaxed changed out that atomizer and put a brand new atomizer on I order from myvaporstore for back up... And it hit like a champ no Throat burn or soreness,, no tightness... and a big old vape exhaled.... It felt like the mallkit vape exhale no problem with 18 mg carts

I got a bad atomizer from were i bought my kit. that atomizer is produceing a bad bad bad toxic burn or somthing fell like i had broncitis......everytime i hit it...

And now i can just puff away with my new atomizer i put on there with the 6mg no burn or anything and with the bad atomizer with 6mg it burned and tightned my chest was the deal with that anyone now.... felt like i was going to die.....

but for now ill let my lungs heal and get back to normal and then start puffin on that 18 mg again.. should i see a doctor?? what do you think i was inhaling off that bad atomizer What do they have inside that can do that to my lungs??????


Has anyone heared of bad atomizers doing this ????????

I knew it wasnt the pg ive been using it for 7days with the high carts before i got dse901 with the bad atomizer i was inhaling ..... Dam i thought i was dying...

Thank you everyone who helped me and reponse...
 

brisk7188

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WELL ... i couldnt handel it i start puffin on my 18mg marlbro from (the vapor house) and its great no throat burn or soreness..And no tighness of the lungs.When i inhale thats weird ... i guess BAD Atomizer can kill you if u dont know what to expect .. if your a rookie......Thats probly whats happening to everyone thats feelin tightness of chest and sore throats and burns when you inhale ...(BAD ATOMIZERS ) Can wait to feel a little better so i can experiance this vape world... dse901 is workin great and a ton of vape at least for me... TRY DIFFERENT ATOMIZER... GOD BLESS
 

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Wow..... Your nicotine is very strong for a beginner...... Go to Michaels or any other arts and crafts store to the cake baking section...... Buy some Wilton's Glycerin for about 2.50 dollars...... Mix or cut to 50/50 mixture..... That should about do it...... I think you will enjoy the strength, throat hit and the taste......
The 510 Titan is a good E-Cig...... Have had one for 2 months...... Recommend the Pass Through and PCC..... I also got a Kensington Portable Power Pack at Best Buy to keep me mobile and save on batteries...... That should keep you at about 5 volts......
Happy vaping.......
 
Could also just be the juice.
I have some labeled VG but I get a fierce reaction to it. I makes me want to rip my face off with the itching. Worse than the cheaper pg stuff I had.

So I hunkered down for an experiment.
Same atty open cart and dripped various combos of juices.
Started with
vg. no reaction
pg no reaction
pg/vg mix no reaction
pg nic no reaction
vg nic no reaction
ecopure krystal no reaction.

Cleaned my equipment. open cart fresh broken in atty and the labeled vg juice. BLAM! itching, face flushed antsy.
swapped atty and cart. BLAM! reaction, thats after 1-3 pulls.
That juice is shelved until further notice.

After that I realized not all juice is equal, even vaping some pure pg stuff and its nice no reactions to it.
 

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The other things mentioned were all well and good but there is one other thing. It could be that the 510 just hits too harsh for your taste and it always will. I have one and I think it hits a bit on the harsh side but it doesn't make me start into a coughing fit or anything it is just a little harsh. I like the m401's taste over the 510 that I have, it just taste better. I know of plenty others who feel the same way and the 910 provides a better taste than the 510 from what I understand. .

My 910 hits smooth as silk, and creates a lot of vapor, I couldn't be happier. From my research online it was said that the 510 is hotter and more harsh than the 910 also the 510 was said to go through batteries very fast. I dont smoke menthol but got a sample of it with my kit and it wasn't bad at all. You might try changing ejuice vendors as I heard that some ejuice really sucks my vendor of choice is Vaporkings, Rob is fast delivery and his product is good.
 

brisk7188

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hello everyone again and thanks for listening ....


Now my lungs fell a lot better not normal but better..

And now i just feel spacey sometimes flu-ish but not really. and sometimes ill have a cold sweat.. weird and not bad but little sores starting in mouth... and i did use 18 mg again today.... im going to really stay away from 18mg till i feel normal and use 11 or 6mg.... should i just stop all together for a little or just use the low stuff??????

all 4 of my good liquids are 18mg except for 3 juices..... 1sample that is low 6mg and 2 other ones that are 11 mg and i went everywhere today looking for pg...to cut my 18mg but Cant find it ... but for now i just use the 6mg and 11mg.. till i find it.... i kind gettin nervous guys... but the first week was great with the mall kit and high carts i felt like a new man and my lungs felt better more energy i felt good ( that atomizer f'd me up) ....Now i cant tell if its the juice or the 18mg ... whats happening to me.. i need pg fast..

Thanks for everyone listening again..... i dont want to give up....

im out of it hope u can understand... i spent about 200 bills on this stuff

buy the way my juices are from

myvaporstore 2.... 11mg moacha lite and 555

the house of vapor 2... 18mg r4 and marlbro

liquid xpress 2 18mg The artisan and cherry cola

:confused:
 

Wakadoo

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thank you..... i went all over the place lookin for glycerin today... pharmcys everywhere couldnt find it thank you...... im just happy in not allergic to pg.... wooooooo i feel better thank god....... been threw a lot the last few day...... i dont even want to say where i bought my starter kit.....


best buy thats a good idea ... bro thx


You can usually find VG at health food stores as well as wal-mart. I had ordered mine off of an Amazon.com healthfood place but found some locally at a vitamin store.
 

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You can usually find VG at health food stores as well as wal-mart. I had ordered mine off of an Amazon.com healthfood place but found some locally at a vitamin store.


OP here, I still think my issue was relatively nicotine related because it still comes and goes, but cutting with glycerine REALLY helps. I like the Wilton's glycerine i got from hobby lobby. That was the ONLY place in town I could find it. It has a good sweet taste to cut the sweet juices to. I have pretty found a juice I like most, and it's Johnson Creek, the first day I wasn't sure, but now I have almost killed prob 30 mL of it, it's all I have been vaping. I went from cutting it quite a bit, to a little, to barely at all. Its kind of weird. And a learning process.

As a side note, in a previous stop smoking venture, I tried the nicotrol inhalers (just nic cartridges, no vapor) and always had that tightness thats probably half the reason I have determined my issue was all nic related.

Glad you figured out a happy medium where you were happy also. Just remember if the tightness can't breath comes back, try adjusting that juice a little too, that has solved my problem every time.
 

brisk7188

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u know guys it could be the juice after all ...... liquid xpress juice is workin out for me 18 mg ..... im still neverous to use that antty thou. so its on the shelf... the house of vapor juice marlbro and ry4 18 mg is not working for me. i cut it with glycerine but now it taste like crap ( de la cruz vg brand ) maybe i should try wiltons to sweeten it up ..... it could be the nic in certain liquids or the liquid itself like u said .... because liquidxpress 18mg is good.. i thought i was dyin for a second ...Thanks again everyone big time... for helpin me out... 3 weeks with out a real cig... hangin in there... like a champ
 

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thanks for all the replys, I am going to clean atty's and pick up some vg tomorrow. After trying it again before bed I am honestly wondering if it's not some sort of allergic reaction somehow?? anyone heard of that?

like i said 36 mg totally wicked juice. i'll go get some VG tomorrow, tried to find some this morning no luck at walmart, will hit walgreens tomorrow.

can i just put plain VG on the atty to see if it is atty or juice since the other juice i ordered hasn't come in yet?

thanks again for the replys, i am definitely going to be dedicated and try to make this work even if I have to try another e-cig, which might have to wait a while due to budget issues. but i'll keep trying the 510 and suggestions! you guys are great~

Bought mine from CVS for $5. Later I checked Walmart for future reference but you may have to ask several employees. I asked one at Wally and they said no but then asked another and found it right away, it was $3 for the same size bottle. The employee at CVS asked me at checkout where I found it since they were looking for it just the day before. Look around in the beauty aids at CVS and Walgreens and at Wally near the pharmacy.
 
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