guess we need to order everything boxless and have them titled "custom flashlight" now.... friggin stupid !
HC oversteps their authority again
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I find the part about the hardware and a study difficult to believe. The only thing HC could have any control over, and many obviously question it, is nicotine.
So I was doing some searching and I found this blurb:
Harmonized System Committee
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It seems as though the “Harmonized System Committee” held a meeting in mid-March and one of the items on the agenda was the “Classification of spare cartridges for electronic cigarettes.” Sounds to me like they are trying to ban hardware, if they haven’t already. I sent an email to HC to inquire about the importation of hardware… but don’t hold your breath.
Harmonized System Committee
(VIII. #9)
It seems as though the “Harmonized System Committee” held a meeting in mid-March and one of the items on the agenda was the “Classification of spare cartridges for electronic cigarettes.” Sounds to me like they are trying to ban hardware, if they haven’t already. I sent an email to HC to inquire about the importation of hardware… but don’t hold your breath.
In banning e-cig hardware, wouldn't any sort of pipe, hookah, .... or vapourizer be included? They are allowed to be sold/imported in Canada if they are meant to be used with tobacco products ... How the hell can they stop a battery and atomizer when it's ok to get a Corn Cob Pipe?
I've sent another email to inquire about the “Classification of spare cartridges for electronic cigarettes” listed on their March agenda. I'll post any replies I get.
Yeah, usualy they're more than happy to chirp and chortle about the findings of government funded studies.
some clarifictation would be nice, my guess would be though that this refers to cartos that are prefilled with juice containing nicotine? Next target batteries? This is getting ridiculous. what about for those of us who want to use PV's without nicotine? They won't let us buy the hardware because there is no way of knowing if I am going to use it with nicotine or not??? But I can buy a .... as long as I SAY it is for tobacco use??? Is HC going to start shutting down the hardware part of our canadian vendors as well?? Perhaps it is because of bill C-6, they don't even have to publish the study or give evidence for this new ban, they say no and we are supposed to all just shutup and listen? I demand to see this so called study of theirs. Sounds a bit like the Eissenberg study with 3 test subjects who had no clue how to use a PV o, "When I take a quick puff, I don't get a nicotine rush, this tastes like a kids would like it, oops I got a drop of nicotine on my hand, I could potentially die. This things are ineffective, marketed to children, harmful and potentially lethal. As of now they are officially banned cause we are idiots who don't know how to conduct a proper study, but no-one will question it cause what we say goes" Ok sorry, getting a bit worked up. rant over, going to have a vape and calm down
Maybe we should be marketing these things as Tobacco Vaporizers, and then they'd be happy!!?? I don't get it, either. Fijits.
Moreover what classifies as a cartridge? Not all e cigs use cartridges. Bottom feeders are a prime example of this. I will find it exceptionally comical if they try to ban specific hardware items because this is an ever changing industry. They gonna ban drip tips too? Lol…
And yeah, I don’t see how they can ban the atomizers unless they also ban “traditional” vaporizers… the ones allowed for “tobacco” use.
And yeah, I don’t see how they can ban the atomizers unless they also ban “traditional” vaporizers… the ones allowed for “tobacco” use.
This is almost as stupid as the government of Nova Scotia charging the Wine Kitz people with a liquor control act violation because they were selling a kit that could become alcohol. So if you follow the letter of the law, fruits and vegetables are illegal here. Health Canada needs to get their head out of their ....s and track down some tainted meat or something.
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I am hoping this just means cartomizers that already contain nicotine. There should be nothing wrong with EMPTY cartridges, cartomizer, atomizers, etc. Maybe they are just THAT clueless that they can't tell an empty carto from a full one??? It is hard to enforce a ban on something that you know nothing about. These people at customs need to be educated if they are seizing our stuff, and the ban needs to be clarified to them, and even moreso to us. I feel like at this point there is absolutely no communication with Health Canada, which is part of the reason why everyone is panicing and outraged. They need to have a press release that includes all of the regulations, classifications, studies backing up their descisions, and potentially what their next steps are (like if they plan to actually do a proper study to re-evaluate their stance on e-cigs in the near future, what steps, if any, are being made to create market authorization or regulation, or if they are working towards a total ban and laws against vaping, etc). Am I unreasonable to expect this of a corrupt government agency??? It is ridiculous that they can seize something and not justify the reasoning or law behind it.
Cripes..... and can't even get HC to return my phone calls (gawd I hate automated messages and answering machines at the govt level), to inquiry about my "refusal of entry" letter I got to confirm the package will be sent back so I can get a damn refund !
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