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Heads up on a possible future e-juice shortage

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Can_supplier

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Fellow vapors,

With the recent "threats" that the US is crying wolf about yet again, complications have resulted with the e-juice supply chain.

As part of the US government's efforts to stop the boogieman man from mailing you are bomb from overseas, extra screening of all shipments is taking place. They aren't too smart about their geography either as the difference between Somalia and China doesn't phase them. Liquids have been given special attention.

All couriers have warned, and have posted notice about delays this stupidity may cause, however it seems the situation has become much worse than just delays. Some suppliers in China have stopped shipping e-liquid completely because it has become impossible to get out. Larger shipments such as suppliers make are getting "special" attention. This includes shipments to Canada.

There will be a work around to this sooner or later, and I'm sure most suppliers have reserves to cover. I would suggest if you have a rare/vendor specific favor you like, and are wondering if you should purchase one or 2, I would go for 2. Also keep an eye on the situation and stock levels.
 

TheRealRob

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I could see a post like this being helpful if it had come from a regular ECF member. Coming from an ECF Registered Supplier really sits uneasy with me.

"A false shortage is a form of artificial scarcity induced by a supplier, often with the intent to elevate consumer demand above levels that may otherwise be achieved in the absence of such scarcity.
Companies may induce a false shortage to give rise to a common perception of the rarity or uniqueness of a product or service, when they are, in reality, neither precious, nor difficult to produce.
Suppliers often stand to gain from a false shortage, because it can help increase consumer demand without a corresponding decrease in price, and hence an entity's perceived value. This results in an increase in short-term profit."

Reference:False shortage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

lickwid

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I could see a post like this being helpful if it had come from a regular ECF member. Coming from an ECF Registered Supplier really sits uneasy with me.

"A false shortage is a form of artificial scarcity induced by a supplier, often with the intent to elevate consumer demand above levels that may otherwise be achieved in the absence of such scarcity.
Companies may induce a false shortage to give rise to a common perception of the rarity or uniqueness of a product or service, when they are, in reality, neither precious, nor difficult to produce.
Suppliers often stand to gain from a false shortage, because it can help increase consumer demand without a corresponding decrease in price, and hence an entity's perceived value. This results in an increase in short-term profit."

Reference:False shortage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I wouldn't knock it, I bought like 5 bottles from you after reading it LOL
 

Can_supplier

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Just to clarify, the topic of this thread is “possible” e-juice shortage. I won’t offend our readers with a definition of a word they know.

The information in this post is based on an email from a supplier, who supplies differnt vendors, that they have suspended e-juice shipments, due to the reasons mention. I'm not sure how a regular member would be sent that information, which is why I posted it, not a "regular" ECF member...

I'm sure everyone working on a solution. Hence possible.


I have not recommended any customers stock up, just that everyone keep an eye on the situation.

If you have different information, I suggest you put your money where your mouth is, and post assurances that there will not be a shortage, based on information you have.

If you have a problem with me, I suggest you send me an email rather than involving people here with posts like that, “therealrob” name and malicious retailmenot coupons.

Thanks,
The Fake Rob

"We received notification from Bogetech today that US customs are inspecting strictly about chemical, electronic and e-juice orders to avoid possible terrorist attack now, it played the hell with E-juice shipping. Considering about it, we decided to stop accepting inquiry for large size e-juice for now, we will keep you updated and inform you as soon as it gets back to normal." - one of evapers.com suppliers
 
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neotekz

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I could see a post like this being helpful if it had come from a regular ECF member. Coming from an ECF Registered Supplier really sits uneasy with me.

i would agree with you if he was doing this in private trying to get you to buy more but posting this info on an open forum with many other suppliers leaving him open to scrutiny from everyone doesnt really make sense does it?

Can_supplier- thanks for the heads up...so this is just extra screening and not a total ban on export?
 

Can_supplier

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Can_supplier- thanks for the heads up...so this is just extra screening and not a total ban on export?

Depends on the company.. The supplier mention above has decided to halt exports.

What is happening the US is going on their witch hunt for bombs. Large bottles of e-juice seem to be raising red flags, and with x-ray machines they are being detected regardless of what the label says. Smaller personal order, I doubt so much so.

I would expect a work around to be found. How soon, I'm not sure, but this is a tougher challenge than we have had to solve in the past. Maybe from a Canadian perspective, only routes through the US and with US mail are targeted, so the work around would be another courier with a dedicated Canadian route. Either way, with this being a newer measure, from events I'm sure everyone has heard on the news, it is going to take a bit of time to figure out everything. Or maybe come Monday it won’t be an issue, who knows.

I don't know about every Chinese source out there, but I think it is safe to assume one supplier isn't the only one with problems.

Any other supplier is more than welcome to state otherwise.

This ISN’T an all out panic, buy a lifetime supply because its banned, it’s a keep your eye on things. If there is a rare flavor, from any company, you like I’d suggest you buy 2. If stock across the board at different retailers is all getting low, you know if comapny X runs out of Marlboro who cares, you can get it from company Y, but if multiple places are starting to get short stocked of common flavors, that would be your time to act on those flavors.
 
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TheRealRob

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I was not expecting to receive a threatening email from OP, basically telling me to keep my mouth shut (in not so nice words). From his email it is very clear that he is only here to make money.


Postings like this to stir up panic serve no purpose. Vapables does not impose a limit on how many products you can purchase from our site, however we do often ask that you do not purchase more than needed so that the entire vaping community can better benefit from our stock.

PLEASE NOTE Vapables manufacturers have assured us of no such shortage and have no plans to stop sending us products.


Regards,
Rob
 

Can_supplier

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My suggestion is if you want to throw insults each other’s way, it’s best to do that by email. My email is always open to customer and even suppliers with a chip on their shoulder. I invited you to discuss things there, rather than trouble the users with this unprofessional exchange. I think had you chosen to do that, I’m sure we could’ve come up with a united opinion on the matter.

There has always been a positive relationship between suppliers on this forum, for the benefit of the member, I intend to keep it that way.

I won’t even respond to the threat accusations.

So your information is the supply chain is fine as always. To be honest I have found another supplier willing to ship to me, who I am testing. We’ll see what happens. You might be right, you could be wrong. What I find offensive is that you make accusations towards me, but you have not taken the time to research the issue.

If there is any doubt to the legitimacy of my claim, as one example, please contact Heaven Gifts directly, as they are in the same supply chain as we are. Ask them about the status of e-juice shipments larger than 1L.

Again my information has just been passed on to the users here, as anyone can validate, to make their own judgment on, which ironically could mean they buy an extra bottle from you.

Possibly this is just a problem for larger volume suppliers which is why our information is conflicting?

I think the professional way, would’ve been to discuss this outside of here, then do your research, before making unjustified, and just plain inaccurate claims public.
 
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markmcs

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While the OP's point MAY be valid, I can see how it may be misinterpreted as a ploy to increase his sales. Personally, I don't see a customs delay here and there creating a shortage, so I will continue to order the way I always have. I have more than one preferred supplier, and I seriously doubt they will ALL be out of stock at the same time.
 

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There are times I question why certain vendors do things. For example:

Posted by a member is one thing but why would a vendor post this.
 

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