I've had similar, although not as severe "geographic tongue". I'm one of the guys nicolay mentioned, hoping to get back to vaping next week. I think vaping poss brought out the condition that I've had before (20yrs ago). Also, my diets been rubbish recently, I have another illness / the meds mean I heal slowly. Been trialing sleep apnea machine. Could have drunk more water. So there's other factors around. Will be trying atomizers soon. And 100%, smoking is worse than vaping - smokers cough coming back, more wheezy, breathing harder etc etc etc etc.
Health problems ?? From vaping ??
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Hi Phil. All in all vaping has been a great experience for me. I have had a bout of vapers tongue twice in 4 months each lasting less than a week. All my vapes tasted nasty no matter how much water I drank so I vaped straight vg and it went away. No problem.
I have not had any pg/vg sensitivity issues at all; I can vape all kinds of percentages. But out of the blue right around my 3 month vape mark I all of a sudden developed a nasty allergy to vanilla custard and cinnamon. It burnt my mouth and throat and I had swelling. Took benedryl and stopped vaping, then straight vg for almost two weeks. Through reading here and my own experiments I now know I can't vape either of those flavors. So I avoid them. Have not had a problem since. Some people can develop a sensitivity to the pg or vg. There are usually work arounds for most issues like that.
On the whole vaping has been a godsend for me. I smoked for 45 years and was able to stop within days of starting to vape. I am very happy and grateful for this blessing and miracle. I would recommend vaping to anyone who wants to quit smoking.
I have not had any pg/vg sensitivity issues at all; I can vape all kinds of percentages. But out of the blue right around my 3 month vape mark I all of a sudden developed a nasty allergy to vanilla custard and cinnamon. It burnt my mouth and throat and I had swelling. Took benedryl and stopped vaping, then straight vg for almost two weeks. Through reading here and my own experiments I now know I can't vape either of those flavors. So I avoid them. Have not had a problem since. Some people can develop a sensitivity to the pg or vg. There are usually work arounds for most issues like that.
On the whole vaping has been a godsend for me. I smoked for 45 years and was able to stop within days of starting to vape. I am very happy and grateful for this blessing and miracle. I would recommend vaping to anyone who wants to quit smoking.
All the detail you could want...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/483715-lesser-2-evils.html
Post #259 summarizes things pretty well.
I've been vaping for 18 months, and previously had a 1 year run (quit all nicotine after the first year but picked up analogs again).
My health improved both times I switched to e-cigs. Blood pressure lowered, breathing easier, all of the benefits noted by others on these forums. Short of quitting all nicotine, I'm quite convinced that e-cigs are a far better nicotine delivery mechanism than any out there.
My own side effects have included cold extremities, but that's likely due to medications that I take according to my doctor. My physician has encouraged me to cease all nicotine eventually, mainly due to its effects as a stimulant. I also drink coffee daily and have reduced my intake over the years on her advice.
If you vape too much at one sitting, it's easy to take in too much nicotine leading to a raging head rush. Doesn't matter what level nicotine you're using, as long as it's not 0% e-liquid. Analog cigarettes have a built-in timer, and while some e-cigs will flash or stop after so many puffs most will let you vape away as long as there's liquid and power. I've only made this mistake a few times, something to look out for.
I do have concerns about the chemical intake when inhaling from a dry cartridge or wick. Tanks and clearomizers have reduced this by making it far easier to keep things properly soaked with e-liquid, but I remember huffing on some nasty fumes after a cartridge dried out. Those wicks will release some nasty hydrocarbons, so care should be taken with your gear.
I proceed now knowing that there could be unforeseen hazards with vaping, but the risk is so much lower than analogs that, for now, I'm comfortable with my choice.
Currently I'm winding down my nicotine concentrations, under 12mg for standard usage, aiming at 6mg until I leave it all behind. In the meantime, I find that I like the nicotine and the vaping experience. Good luck!
CDoll
My health improved both times I switched to e-cigs. Blood pressure lowered, breathing easier, all of the benefits noted by others on these forums. Short of quitting all nicotine, I'm quite convinced that e-cigs are a far better nicotine delivery mechanism than any out there.
My own side effects have included cold extremities, but that's likely due to medications that I take according to my doctor. My physician has encouraged me to cease all nicotine eventually, mainly due to its effects as a stimulant. I also drink coffee daily and have reduced my intake over the years on her advice.
If you vape too much at one sitting, it's easy to take in too much nicotine leading to a raging head rush. Doesn't matter what level nicotine you're using, as long as it's not 0% e-liquid. Analog cigarettes have a built-in timer, and while some e-cigs will flash or stop after so many puffs most will let you vape away as long as there's liquid and power. I've only made this mistake a few times, something to look out for.
I do have concerns about the chemical intake when inhaling from a dry cartridge or wick. Tanks and clearomizers have reduced this by making it far easier to keep things properly soaked with e-liquid, but I remember huffing on some nasty fumes after a cartridge dried out. Those wicks will release some nasty hydrocarbons, so care should be taken with your gear.
I proceed now knowing that there could be unforeseen hazards with vaping, but the risk is so much lower than analogs that, for now, I'm comfortable with my choice.
Currently I'm winding down my nicotine concentrations, under 12mg for standard usage, aiming at 6mg until I leave it all behind. In the meantime, I find that I like the nicotine and the vaping experience. Good luck!
CDoll
Well, running the danger that this forum is sick & tired of reading about my tongue ... but here it goes anyway:
- After my 2nd week of vaping I developed Geographic tongue (pre-filled cartos, ciggalike). Had to stop using it, returned to tobacco.
- Went to GP and a dermatologist ... who both diagnosed the condition. So no BS here.
- e-VODS and Kanger tanks arrived, along with VG-only liquid.
- Tongue was still hell, so didn't try the new gear.
- Tongue got slightly better after a few weeks.
- Started vaping on new gear, tongue improved more rapidly but end of that week things became really bad again.
- Returned to tobacco (ryo). After quite a few weeks my tongue is OK-ish again but still can't eat anything too salty or abrasive (chips/crisps, hard bread or anything like that).
- Haven't had the guts yet to give vaping another try, but maybe soon.
There are 2 other guys on this forum with similar experiences. One has managed to solve the issue with rebuildable attys and believes its the equipment, not allergy or heat. I've not tried it yet.
I'm not arrogant enough to blame vaping exclusively for this, especially since I bummed a smoke now and then during vaping, so it could be a combination-factor. Who knows, maybe the 2nd time the condition flared up was just the nature of this condition (it waxes & wanes).
Am no medical pro and have made no clinical trials ... but you all can imagine how sad and frustrating this is
Any help or theories, however unproven, would be highly appreciated!
Thanks!!!
PS: Its not a health problem per se, and they call it benign ... yet it can get extremely annoying.
Alot of the ecigs have atomisers with plastic/silicone/rubber; I would suspect toxic fumes from burning synthetic materail such as silicone in the atomiser; meanwhile it looks to me like the rebuildables might not have this problem, especially with steel wicks
If only you could find the right vape for when you're sick! I'm sure they exists, but nobody's figured out the recipes yet.
I developed ulcerative colitis early this year. I immediately attributed it to taking Celebrex for a month after having knee surgery.
I had stopped smoking cigarettes the day of my surgery on Dec. 5th, because I knew that there was no way that I was going to get down the stairs to go outside and smoke. My husband (who has been living in FL for the past couple of years, because he can't find work in NYC) hates cigarettes with a passion that I have never seen. He came back for about a month and a half to care for me, so I vaped less than I would have smoked, because I would have had to do it in front of him and he thought I was stupid for not stopping completely. It was shortly after he returned to FL that I was diagnosed with UC.
I am on a drug twice a day that contains mesalazine (brand name “Lialda”) that does seem to help some, but it doesn’t completely alleviate my symptoms. While I was doing some research to see what else I can do (diet, exercise, etc.), I came across articles suggesting that the addition of nicotine to mesalazine therapy has shown to relieve symptoms better than either alone. It seems the disease is more prevalent in non-smokers, particularly ex-smokers. Who knew? Below is a link to one of the articles that I read (unfortunately the medscape.com site will not let me link to the other article without registering for an account):
Nicotine treatment for ulcerative colitis
Unfortunately, I’ve been steadily reducing my nicotine levels and am now at the lowest dosage (6mg, so that I can be free of it), but according to each article I read, the beneficial dosage for UC is 15mg. I certainly don’t want to use the patch again, as they gave me nightmares and skin rashes (not to mention that they and the gum are very freakin' expensive!), so I am now thinking that I need to go back up to a higher dosage of nicotine. I have since ordered a few of the juices I like in 24mg to mix 50-50 with the 6mg to get 15mg. I will adjust higher (18mg) or lower (12mg) depending on how I feel. I do still have some 18mg & 12mg juices that I'm not in love with to fall back on, if I need to. My husband will just have to suck it up, while he watches me vape, damn it!
Debbie
I had stopped smoking cigarettes the day of my surgery on Dec. 5th, because I knew that there was no way that I was going to get down the stairs to go outside and smoke. My husband (who has been living in FL for the past couple of years, because he can't find work in NYC) hates cigarettes with a passion that I have never seen. He came back for about a month and a half to care for me, so I vaped less than I would have smoked, because I would have had to do it in front of him and he thought I was stupid for not stopping completely. It was shortly after he returned to FL that I was diagnosed with UC.
I am on a drug twice a day that contains mesalazine (brand name “Lialda”) that does seem to help some, but it doesn’t completely alleviate my symptoms. While I was doing some research to see what else I can do (diet, exercise, etc.), I came across articles suggesting that the addition of nicotine to mesalazine therapy has shown to relieve symptoms better than either alone. It seems the disease is more prevalent in non-smokers, particularly ex-smokers. Who knew? Below is a link to one of the articles that I read (unfortunately the medscape.com site will not let me link to the other article without registering for an account):
Nicotine treatment for ulcerative colitis
Unfortunately, I’ve been steadily reducing my nicotine levels and am now at the lowest dosage (6mg, so that I can be free of it), but according to each article I read, the beneficial dosage for UC is 15mg. I certainly don’t want to use the patch again, as they gave me nightmares and skin rashes (not to mention that they and the gum are very freakin' expensive!), so I am now thinking that I need to go back up to a higher dosage of nicotine. I have since ordered a few of the juices I like in 24mg to mix 50-50 with the 6mg to get 15mg. I will adjust higher (18mg) or lower (12mg) depending on how I feel. I do still have some 18mg & 12mg juices that I'm not in love with to fall back on, if I need to. My husband will just have to suck it up, while he watches me vape, damn it!
Debbie
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You might want to send a PM to Myk who is an active member here.
He is also vaping nicotine due to ulcerative colitis.
He is a veteran vaper who has been around awhile.
And you can trust him.
You might want to send a PM to Myk who is an active member here.
He is also vaping nicotine due to ulcerative colitis.
He is a veteran vaper who has been around awhile.
And you can trust him.
Thank you so much, DC2. Will do! Anything that I can learn to control my condition and avoid surgery will be a Godsend.
Debbie
Ok here goes. I know that technically this isn't a health problem, but to me, it is definitely a problem nonetheless. I have been analog free for 6 months & honestly, I NEVER thought I would be able to say that! For me, vaping has been a Godsend. Unfortunately though, I have had acne flare it's ugly, nasty, lil white head spots all over my face self in direct corellation to quitting cigs 
I just found the thread in which "quit zits" are mentioned & felt the "Ah Ha" moment. About 2 weeks after my last smoke, I noticed a breakout & had chalked it up to stress from quitting. I was irritated as I've never really had breakouts (except for when I was pregnant & boy did that suck too... (huge, hormonal & pimply...grrrr) Now 6 months in I am still suffering from this terrible affliction with what looks like no end in sight. Horrible little bumps all along my chin line, cheeks, & forehead. I have used over the counter acne medication, astringents, oils, etc, & nothing has helped... NOTHING I say!
I just found the thread in which "quit zits" are mentioned & felt the "Ah Ha" moment. About 2 weeks after my last smoke, I noticed a breakout & had chalked it up to stress from quitting. I was irritated as I've never really had breakouts (except for when I was pregnant & boy did that suck too... (huge, hormonal & pimply...grrrr) Now 6 months in I am still suffering from this terrible affliction with what looks like no end in sight. Horrible little bumps all along my chin line, cheeks, & forehead. I have used over the counter acne medication, astringents, oils, etc, & nothing has helped... NOTHING I say! 
A year with vaping and I feel better than at any point in time pre-vape (when I smoked). Some people come into this forum with PG reactions but they're minor symptoms and the solution is simple.
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