hello im new ,, trying to quit and i need some answers please

[Sugar_and_Spice]

yes i have visited your blog and seen every trial you did ... i have to say you are a KNIGHT in this forum ... the effort you make is impressive and really helpful .. thank you .


Quick notion :
i have noted on thing in your actual temp trails , i have seen in most devices that you used ...

As long the Voltage or the Wattage is low , temp will be low too , was that a coincidence?

if not , does that means in a fixed voltage systems like the pods , every thing will drop down accordingly ( Voltage>>Wattage>>temp) as the battery is going down offcurse ?

or let us say if i vaped at half full battery 3.3v - 3.7v (there are devices that will change the LED color in certain Voltage ) .. the temp also will be low?

i know there are other variables to consider .. but im speaking generally.

again can not thank you enough this is really helping me .

Hello. Let understand a little better about your questions.

As long the Voltage or the Wattage is low , temp will be low too , was that a coincidence?


The batteries we use and the amount of power used to heat up the coil to vaporize ejuice is just that - a power source. As you use the battery it will began to drain of some of its power. As it gets lower in power, it will still keep your vape at the wattage/volts you set for it. The lights will change color to show you how much power is left in the battery and if it is needing to be recharged.


Temp is dependent on the coil used and how many times you are pushing the fire button. If you take one or two hits off your device and lay it down for a few minutes then the coil will cool off. If you continue to press the button, as in chain vaping(like cigarettes) the hotter the coils become and the temp will rise.

The types of wires that are in coils and what OHM(resistance)is what determines what level of wattage may be used. I don't think on Pods there is a choice as its already fixed.

HTH

 

[pene1412]

Hello. Let understand a little better about your questions.

As long the Voltage or the Wattage is low , temp will be low too , was that a coincidence?


The batteries we use and the amount of power used to heat up the coil to vaporize ejuice is just that - a power source. As you use the battery it will began to drain of some of its power. As it gets lower in power, it will still keep your vape at the wattage/volts you set for it. The lights will change color to show you how much power is left in the battery and if it is needing to be recharged.


Temp is dependent on the coil used and how many times you are pushing the fire button. If you take one or two hits off your device and lay it down for a few minutes then the coil will cool off. If you continue to press the button, as in chain vaping(like cigarettes) the hotter the coils become and the temp will rise.

The types of wires that are in coils and what OHM(resistance)is what determines what level of wattage may be used. I don't think on Pods there is a choice as its already fixed.

HTH

Sugar_and_Spice thank you for responding ...

As long the Voltage or the Wattage is low , temp will be low too , was that a coincidence?

i asked this question because it was actually listed that way in every chart in all of his experiments on trying to measure the temp in several devices .


now .. you said
" The batteries we use and the amount of power used to heat up the coil to vaporize ejuice is just that - a power source. As you use the battery it will began to drain of some of its power. As it gets lower in power, it will still keep your vape at the wattage/volts you set for it. The lights will change color to show you how much power is left in the battery and if it is needing to be recharged." ...... i understand really well you explaining ...except in pod systems i can not set any variable its already fixed .. so this my inquiry when the battery is drained the other variables will do also V>>W>>T.

thank you again...

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Sugar_and_Spice thank you for responding ...

As long the Voltage or the Wattage is low , temp will be low too , was that a coincidence?

i asked this question because it was actually listed that way in every chart in all of his experiments on trying to measure the temp in several devices .


now .. you said
" The batteries we use and the amount of power used to heat up the coil to vaporize ejuice is just that - a power source. As you use the battery it will began to drain of some of its power. As it gets lower in power, it will still keep your vape at the wattage/volts you set for it. The lights will change color to show you how much power is left in the battery and if it is needing to be recharged." ...... i understand really well you explaining ...except in pod systems i can not set any variable its already fixed .. so this my inquiry when the battery is drained the other variables will do also V>>W>>T.

thank you again...

The general answer to your inquiry is no. With the exception of fixed voltage/wattage. That will range from 3.2-3.7. Temp will only rise when fire button is pressed. It will cool down when you release the fire button. Temp is not battery dependent. Does not matter if battery is at full or half empty.

 

[pene1412]

The general answer to your inquiry is no. With the exception of fixed voltage/wattage. That will range from 3.2-3.7. Temp will only rise when fire button is pressed. It will cool down when you release the fire button. Temp is not battery dependent. Does not matter if battery is at full or half empty.

'Temp is not battery dependent. Does not matter if battery is at full or half empty.'

that is really close to what i need to know .. temp will be there weather the battery full or empty .. but what about the the quality of the temp when the vpltage is vary ? is temp in 3.3V as high like the one in 4.2V ?
this is the quastion that i want to ask from the begining thank you for squeezing my brain

 

[ilporcupine]

If that Hangsen has dry hit protection, as in your post, it will stay below 450F or so at the most.
As far as the other pods, I assumed they all had at least a voltage regulator to keep consistent.
You can control it to some extent just by not chain vaping, and keeping to shorter draws(puffs). The shorter the burn time, the cooler it will stay.
If it concerns you as much as it seems to, buy one that has temperature control built in.

 

[pene1412]

If that Hangsen has dry hit protection, as in your post, it will stay below 450F or so at the most.
As far as the other pods, I assumed they all had at least a voltage regulator to keep consistent.
You can control it to some extent just by not chain vaping, and keeping to shorter draws(puffs). The shorter the burn time, the cooler it will stay.
If it concerns you as much as it seems to, buy one that has temperature control built in.

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Thank you very much .. and thanks to this forum this issue does not bother me any more .. all i wanted

to know if POD devices are similar to CE4 devices that had bad reputation ... and i got my answer

 

[deb51]

G'day & welcome Pene,
I have been reading your posts & learning heaps!
I,too live in a remote area & dependant on online buying & communicating as all this is illegal in my country (& has gotten worse since the Govt Regulator backed down due to taxes on tobacco they would have to go without in March.)Apart from this different states have different fines (between $2000 to $45000!!) for even having a device let alone eliquid with nicotine in it!
We stopped cigarettes almost 2 years ago,knew someone who was using Evods by Kangertech & got supplies from where they got theirs-I really did overkill with my shopping & as Customs were cracking down it was for a reason.(So when we are Evod out of stock shall go to perhaps Vapresso Drizzle or a similar pen style...so confusing with the choices available).We use Hangsen Juices,change the coils every 30mls & these 650mah batteries work at 3,2-3.7 which is what is advised by Eliquid manufacturer.)As cigarettes are over $40 per pack of 25 & will increase by 12,9% on Sept 1st.As retirees we could not afford to smoke anymore,let alone health issues that may arise.I just wish we had known about Vaping/ecigs 10 years ago,my sister who is 13 yrs my junior & lives 5000 klms away in a big city has taken my advice & is now Vaping also..onto her 3rd device as she keeps breaking them!(& thats since December!)I shall follow your progress & wish you luck,cheers

 

[ilporcupine]

Hello. Let understand a little better about your questions.

As long the Voltage or the Wattage is low , temp will be low too , was that a coincidence?


The batteries we use and the amount of power used to heat up the coil to vaporize ejuice is just that - a power source. As you use the battery it will began to drain of some of its power. As it gets lower in power, it will still keep your vape at the wattage/volts you set for it. The lights will change color to show you how much power is left in the battery and if it is needing to be recharged.


Temp is dependent on the coil used and how many times you are pushing the fire button. If you take one or two hits off your device and lay it down for a few minutes then the coil will cool off. If you continue to press the button, as in chain vaping(like cigarettes) the hotter the coils become and the temp will rise.

The types of wires that are in coils and what OHM(resistance)is what determines what level of wattage may be used. I don't think on Pods there is a choice as its already fixed.

HTH

One other idea for using technique to help control temp.
If you don't want to wait so long between draws, you could do puffs without firing, in between actual hits, to cool coil.

 

[pene1412]

G'day & welcome Pene,
I have been reading your posts & learning heaps!
I,too live in a remote area & dependant on online buying & communicating as all this is illegal in my country (& has gotten worse since the Govt Regulator backed down due to taxes on tobacco they would have to go without in March.)Apart from this different states have different fines (between $2000 to $45000!!) for even having a device let alone eliquid with nicotine in it!
We stopped cigarettes almost 2 years ago,knew someone who was using Evods by Kangertech & got supplies from where they got theirs-I really did overkill with my shopping & as Customs were cracking down it was for a reason.(So when we are Evod out of stock shall go to perhaps Vapresso Drizzle or a similar pen style...so confusing with the choices available).We use Hangsen Juices,change the coils every 30mls & these 650mah batteries work at 3,2-3.7 which is what is advised by Eliquid manufacturer.)As cigarettes are over $40 per pack of 25 & will increase by 12,9% on Sept 1st.As retirees we could not afford to smoke anymore,let alone health issues that may arise.I just wish we had known about Vaping/ecigs 10 years ago,my sister who is 13 yrs my junior & lives 5000 klms away in a big city has taken my advice & is now Vaping also..onto her 3rd device as she keeps breaking them!(& thats since December!)I shall follow your progress & wish you luck,cheers

thank you so much ...

Almost the same circumstances here where i live ... its really frustrating how we are unable to share this technology with the rest of the people ... but im always optimistic ... even with that we are really lucky
to have this alternative ...

thank you

 

[pene1412]

One other idea for using technique to help control temp.
If you don't want to wait so long between draws, you could do puffs without firing, in between actual hits, to cool coil.

good to know thankx

 

[BrotherBob]

Almost the same circumstances here where i live ... its really frustrating how we are unable to share this technology with the rest of the people ... but im always optimistic ... even with that we are really lucky
to have this alternative ...

Welcome and glad you joined.
Might like to read some more good news, if it has not been already brought to your attention:
American Cancer Society Position Statement on Electronic Cigarettes
E-cigs 'definitely' safer than smoking
Vaping is the reason for massive decline in UK smoking
Government legalises e-cigarettes in effort to make New Zealand smokefree by 2025
New Zealand un-bans vaping, says it's good for public health

 

[pene1412]

Welcome and glad you joined.
Might like to read some more good news, if it has not been already brought to your attention:
American Cancer Society Position Statement on Electronic Cigarettes
E-cigs 'definitely' safer than smoking
Vaping is the reason for massive decline in UK smoking
Government legalises e-cigarettes in effort to make New Zealand smokefree by 2025
New Zealand un-bans vaping, says it's good for public health

great news ... really appreciate it .. thank you

 

[medleypat]

The only thing I would add is take all studies with a grain of salt. If the older equipment was so bad how would people have health improvements. To explain further if you have damaged lungs from smoking inhaling something harmful to them would either make it worse or at least stay the same but people come on here all the time and state how their health has improved so the only logical conclusion is that gaping anything is better then smoking

 

[Coyote628]

Personally, i dont give that thread much merit and think its just another scare tactic that somehow made its way in here. True, you dont want extreme temps in your vape but this is totally controllable, even in VV/VW modes by having enough airflow to keep the coil from overheating when you press the fire button. That, and just dont hold the button to the point of burning your wicks. A dry hit is far more nasty for you, and this is a learning process which you will figure out pretty quick if you pay attention to what you're doing. As the others have said, first just get through the detox process and get all those bad chemicals from smoking out of your system. Even the worst vape setup is better than smoking. As for pods, i have tried a juul recently. Just out of curiosity and to have an educated opinion. They are so simple to use, even a chimpanzee can figure out how to use one. They are great for the totally inept and the extremely lazy. And i dont mean to imply chimps are inept and lazy, its just that using a pod is a no-brainer.