Hello Please help a new lass

[Mrsschof]

hi, so I made the jump from 20 a day to an ecig; spent a age researching and settled on the Apollo go ohm kit. I also purchased three liquids which are Max VG and 6mg.

I’ve set it all up, watched YouTube tutorials read instructions and you’d think I’d be good to go....

It’s awful!!! It’s the most disgusting experience, I can’t inhale at all, not even a tiny amount without chocking. It’s like taking a huge drag off 20 lit cigs all at once. I was advised to take a big drag that would help but that was even worse not only chocking but felt like I’d burnt the back of my throat.

I’ve no idea what’s wrong, have I misunderstood something somewhere? I tried a friends years ago it was like inhaling air but this is just horrendous.

Please help

 

[untar]

Welcome to our nebulous world!
It sounds like what you're vaping is burnt cotton. Seeing you're new to this a badly primed coil is a likely culprit.
Sadly I don't know that Apollo kit thingy, but priming is almost always the same:
-take a coil head
-drip some drops onto the cotton from the top (don't drown it, you can still add a few drops if it isn't soaked)
-when the holes on the side that show cotton change color/get wet, that's when your coil is primed
-install the coil and fill up your tank (you can also take 2-3 puffs without hitting the fire button at this point)
-vape with lower power and raise the power slowly to your taste (only applicable if your device has that functionality which I don't think the apollo has, it claims it's "self adjusting")

Another possibility is a dud coil head, I'd only think about that once you confirm your coil was properly primed.

 

[Mrsschof]

Thank you Untar. Sadly I have tried the above, soaked the coil like you said it went from white to a murky green colour, tried also the puffs without firing and then did all of the above with a new coil.

 

[alvitae]

I just looked at that kit online at the electric tobacconist. They recommend high PG liquid. I'm guessing that would be a 50/50 ratio. That is a lot thinner than your max VG. So for starters you might be getting "dry hits". As your cotton may not be wicking properly because of the thick juice.

Second thing I noticed is that it came with 2 coils. A 1 ohm and a .5 ohm. The 1 ohm should be set with a lot of resistance in the airflow. And smoked like a cigarette. The 0.5 ohm you would want the air flow open and to draw directly into your lung.

The third thing I can think of is at 6mg that can possibly be harsh for you in dtl mode. (Direct to lung) which would be your .5 coil with open air.

Since your liquid is on the thicker side did you let it sit for awhile before you puffed after filling to let it soak in? If not you might have scorched the cotton which can taste horrible.

That's all I can think of. Maybe someone else has other ideas as well.

 

[Letitia]

hi, so I made the jump from 20 a day to an ecig; spent a age researching and settled on the Apollo go ohm kit. I also purchased three liquids which are Max VG and 6mg.

I’ve set it all up, watched YouTube tutorials read instructions and you’d think I’d be good to go....

It’s awful!!! It’s the most disgusting experience, I can’t inhale at all, not even a tiny amount without chocking. It’s like taking a huge drag off 20 lit cigs all at once. I was advised to take a big drag that would help but that was even worse not only chocking but felt like I’d burnt the back of my throat.

I’ve no idea what’s wrong, have I misunderstood something somewhere? I tried a friends years ago it was like inhaling air but this is just horrendous.

Please help

Sounds like you just need to learn how to vape. For a few days just draw the vapor into your mouth, small hits, then inhale gently. Small hits is the key. Agree that you need thinner juice. You can add a few drops of distilled water to your existing juice rather than just not using it, or you can save it until you upgrade your gear. I'd smoked many things before vaping and I choked too. It's just different and you have to give yourself time to adjust.

 

[Ethan diy]

I would have started with something more simple... but its all forvthe best... keep inquiring... the vape is great.. somethings just not i tune with what your doing... maybe nic amount? Anyway dont despair keep at it i promise you wont regret .. been smoking a pack a day for thirty years... now i wouldnt change my vape for a million bucks... goid luck

 

[mav_sd]

Good first set of ideas from the group... if you can let us know more details about coil resistance, and your current settings we might be able to help troubleshoot a bit better.

IF you have already toasted the coil, you need to swap it out or it will continue to be an awful experience.

One time i lent one of my backups to a friend and he accidentally turned the wattage to max... and literally started a fire inside the coil. It's extreme, but just illustrates how starting low, then gradually going up a couple of watts at a time until you reach desired vapor is good advice. (and patiently prime ahead of time, which it sounds like you have a handle on)

Good luck, and keep us posted as you try new stuff, or come up with more questions! Welcome to ECF.

 

[Mrsschof]

Ok so, I switched the 0.5 coil to a 1.0 and it’s still the same. I’m seriously disheartened, I’ve been told small drags are worse take deep ones, and take small drags to get used to it not deep ones.

Unfortunately I have no idea what info to give re: the coil all I know from the instructions is portal 1.0.

Should I buy doffeeent liquid? Can I put any liquid in? I got Max VG 6mg is it too strong maybe?

Thanks so much for all the replies and advice it’s been a huge help just gutted it’s not what I had hoped or expected

 

[stols001]

Okay, so that device is built (I just read a quick review) to "automatically" adjust the battery output (depending on the coil, I'd guess). That sounds pretty "hit or miss" to me, and their version of what you wattage "should" be may just result in burnt coils. With the 1.0 coil, I'd say draw some long, slow priming puffs before you even hit the fire button, since the device is going to "self adjust" to what it feels is the "right" wattage (which, for you coming from smoking) may be far more vapor than you need, even with the 1.0 coil. You can try adjusting your airflow if there is one to wide open, that might help some with heat issues (how it's going to affect the draw is anyone's guess).

If it were me, I would scrap the device. I hate to say it, but this just looks like a really not great device. It's pen style, not one you see about, but I am highly skeptical of the device's ability to "provide" the right wattage for you at least, since you get too much vapor, probably, per puff, and it's burning.

There are several setups that are more adjustable and a more "true" MTL experience. You could get a pico with a Melo III tank, that can provide a fair amount of vaper and can also be adjusted (by coil type, wattage, and airflow). It's a small, portable device.

You could look at an Aspire Zelos kit, internal battery and comes with the Nautilus 2 tank which is pretty much tried and true for MTL vapers, it's what I quit with. Again, you'll have far more adjustment and portability and yes, they may cost slightly more but a decent device is really necessary to get going. I'd suggest if you go one of these routes, a higher strength, higher PG and higher nicotine juice, as you will be getting more nicotine per puff, but far less volume of vapor. I might suggest 12 nic, or if that's harsh, maybe trying a nic salt juice (more pricy, but easier on the throat).

You can get a sense of prices by putting either kit into "Vapecrawler.com" and that should give you some sense of pricing (although vapecrawler is often not the lowest price and you may be able to find it somewhere else, for even cheaper, as vapecrawler is sponsored by its patrons and does get a cut of the final pricing.) But it should give you a sense.

It's really not exceedingly often that I say "move on" from a device, but yours clearly isn't getting the job done, and you need a setup you can actually VAPE consistently from, and so far, that hasn't seemed to be your experience. I looked at that device, and I probably (if I owned one) would have a hard time giving it away, because I wouldn't want to do that to a new vaper.

Best of luck, I hope you get a resolution somehow that allows you to vape successfully.

Anna

 

[gandymarsh]

Welcome to ECF!

You may want to try something with a higher resistance coil like the Innokin Endura T18. It uses a 1.5 ohm coil which should be easier on your lungs. You might be able to use that device after you get used to vaping.

Innokin Endura T18 Review - Vaping360

Vaping is different than smoking. You probably coughed when you started smoking. It can take awhile for your lungs to adapt.

Innokin Endura T18 Starter Kit

 

[AngeNZ]

I didn't deep inhale when I started - with the 1.0 ohm coil in try 1-2 short pulls like you would on a cigarette, hold for a sec, then exhale. Play around with short small inhales - if its still horrible, then maybe the kit is to blame.

Took me a while to figure out how to 'smoke' a vape. When I used a sub ohm aio I found it frustrating as it required such deep inhales to work

 

[MJCSD]

Hello and welcome to ecf

 

[classwife]

I wouldn't be able to use a 1. or a .5 coil...just too hot for me.
Looks like they don't give you a higher coil option with that kit.

 

[Dandelion Puffball]

Before you give up on vaping, I hope you give a different device a try. I tried several pen-style vapes back a few years ago and never liked the way any of them hit or felt (though yours might be malfunctioning--none of the ones I tried were *that* bad even with high nic liquid). There are a ton of other options out there and lots of people here who can point you in the right direction. I took to vaping again when I found "pod" style vapes because their hit and feel is much more like a real cigarette and they're ridiculously simple to use. There's probably something out there that will work well for you too.

 

[Mrsschof]

Thank you so much for all the replies. Went to bed ready to package of all up and send it back today.

Thought I’d give it one last blast before giving up and I didn’t chock !!! The 1.0 has been sat ‘soaking’ for 24hrs, it’s still not ideal leaves an insanely dry feeling in the back of my throat but I didn’t cough my guts up.

Now the conundrum do I send back or persevere? Can anyone recommend something more suitable to a beginner that I could get just to get used to it or is the dryness normal?

TIA

 

[untar]

Since we can't feel the dryness you're experiencing for ourselves it's hard to tell. The vapor can dry your airways a bit but it can be counteracted by drinking a little more. If it is instant unbearable dryness then I wouldn't call that normal, I never experienced that from vaping.

The problem with such beginner kit devices is that there's nothing to adjust and a very limited choice of coils. True, it makes it easier for beginners since there's nothing you can really do wrong (well so they think) but at the same time it makes it harder because you're stuck with that one/two option(s) and that's it. A mod+tank combo would be superior, like eg an eleaf istick pico with a mouth to lung tank on top (nautilus, zenith, gs air etc).

I'd suggest you get a 2nd device in the near future if your finances allow it, it can be a difference like night and day. A good vape shop will let you try out the devices before you buy so you don't have to go in totally blind.

 

[Upinsmoke]

I don't think many people find what works for them straight away.
I started out on those little pen devices then bought a mod which I hated .
Then the revelation ..... I found a local vape shop that took the time to sort out my issues.
Came away with an Aspire Pockex a little all in one .
Getting juice to suit me was also key , found out pg was causing me to cough and nicotine at 3mg was plenty.
After a bit I returned to the Coolfire 4 that I had thought too much for me .
Now it's home made juice on drippers and new shiny things catching my eye all the time.

My advice is ask around for a good local shop.
Start small and slowly build up.
Take that device with you and let the assistant try it.
Could be it's faulty , could be it's just too much for you atm.

Good luck . Rome wasn't built in a day.

 

[stols001]

Some feeling of being "dried out" is normal when transitioning to vaping, PG and VG can be drying.

Only you can decide about your device. If you are within warranty for a while, I might try persevering with what you have (although unless the device is malfunctioning somehow I'm not 100% sure you can warranty it, anyway).

However, if you continue to experience serious issues I might try. I am going to second the recommendation for a more customizable and adjustable setup though, whether you keep the first one or not (it's always good to have a backup vape unless anything goes wrong.

"Dryness" is sort of subjective though it's hard to know for sure whether this is in the realm of "normal' and/or something is going wrong with your vape. Good luck,

Anna

 

[BrotherBob]

spent a age researching

Welcome and glad you joined.
The following articles will give you an idea of the start of vaping and learning from the bottom up.
Might like to read:
http://www.vaporauthority.com/pages/learn
Vaping and Inhaling: Everything You Need To Know
https://spinfuel.com/new-vapers-start/
http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/a...tte-college-guides-tutorials-information.html
Beginner – Guide To Vaping
http://vapingcheap.com/vaping-101/
6 Quick & Useful Vaping Tips for Beginners
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...up-the-vaping-ladder-with-egos-and-mods.5058/
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...nk-or-what-a-guide-to-juice-attachments.3230/

 

[Grimwald]

I would vote for a Nautilus II. Not my favorite, but certainly geared toward a MTL vaping with a selection of coils available and adjustable airflow. Also get a variable device (Istick, Pico) anything that allows you to dial in the power.

If you need a pen style and something cheap, just get an Evod blister pack.