Help necessary for someone who just cannot grasp the DIY thing
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Here it is. My first attempt with nic!!!!
Ill let you all know how it goes.
Only steeped for a couple of hours. Made just 5ml and just finally did it with the nic and everything.
I realized I was scared and I was trying to make it too complicated by making different % levels.
I finally just picked one flavor (capellas lemon meringue) and just made it at a standard percentage that their juices are normally made at.
Updates to follow. I just wanted to upload a pic for all those who have supported and helped.
More to come.
it is not easy to understand, and so many abbriviations that need to be learned to have any idea what is being talked about. I tracked you hear ob after I saw you trying to purchase diy glass measuring package. crazy, well I was hoping you could lead me somewhere that might help learn diy. thank you
stick around and I will try to help.
I need these things to be very simple. anything math related I struggle with. I have realized that DIY is hard for me because I do not cook. Many cooks, cook by taste and feel which are not my strong suits. I like to do things with simple, detailed instructions and be precise. DIY is not always that way. That is why I just picked a % and went with it.
In the future, I might learn to do it by feel. For now, I just want someone to give me the exact percentages and I will follow them.
Hugs ob! Thank you for starting this thread!!
I totally agree with not really being able to tell the difference in flavor between 5% 10% 15% 20%. I even went so far as to drip a flavor straight from the bottle into my atty! (hoosier was hoping it was a nasty tobacco flavor) but it was a very weak delicate flavor that didn't taste any different @5% than it did straight outta the bottle.
I ordered 30 various vendor's bakery flavors and about 30 tobacco flavors and mixed em all up @ the beginning, talk about overload!! I figured out then that testing with a nic base and trying to determine flavor % made me ill. I mix my tests now w/o nic.
I was chasing perfection, trying to get the perfect % of each flavor before actually using them in a mix. Nothing was working out. I went recipe chasing. I knew that I liked the flavor of Capella sweet strawberry so I found a recipe using that and mixed up 10mls of the stuff and low and behold it was pretty good not perfect but vapeable. After 20 more mls of it I mixed up 50 mls and am going to try tweaking it a little.
Just stick with it. I am!!
Now to the rest of you, POST MORE RECIPES!!
I totally agree with not really being able to tell the difference in flavor between 5% 10% 15% 20%. I even went so far as to drip a flavor straight from the bottle into my atty! (hoosier was hoping it was a nasty tobacco flavor) but it was a very weak delicate flavor that didn't taste any different @5% than it did straight outta the bottle.
I ordered 30 various vendor's bakery flavors and about 30 tobacco flavors and mixed em all up @ the beginning, talk about overload!! I figured out then that testing with a nic base and trying to determine flavor % made me ill. I mix my tests now w/o nic.
I was chasing perfection, trying to get the perfect % of each flavor before actually using them in a mix. Nothing was working out. I went recipe chasing. I knew that I liked the flavor of Capella sweet strawberry so I found a recipe using that and mixed up 10mls of the stuff and low and behold it was pretty good not perfect but vapeable. After 20 more mls of it I mixed up 50 mls and am going to try tweaking it a little.
Just stick with it. I am!!
Now to the rest of you, POST MORE RECIPES!!
ok.
so a question and a request.
If I mixed a batch of capellas lemon meringue and I like it but the flavor is a little less than I want, and I mixed it at 15% does that automatically mean that I should try a higher percentage?
I mean how do you know that you want a higher percentage and that the higher percentage will not make it worse?
I know some will say to make different batches first at the different percentages, but I could not really tell from this.
THE REQUEST.
is there somewhere where all the flavor vendors are listed with all the most popular percentages for each flavor?
I have capellas, PA, FA mostly now. It would help to have a percentage that is generally regarded as the one that most people like to start at.
so a question and a request.
If I mixed a batch of capellas lemon meringue and I like it but the flavor is a little less than I want, and I mixed it at 15% does that automatically mean that I should try a higher percentage?
I mean how do you know that you want a higher percentage and that the higher percentage will not make it worse?
I know some will say to make different batches first at the different percentages, but I could not really tell from this.
THE REQUEST.
is there somewhere where all the flavor vendors are listed with all the most popular percentages for each flavor?
I have capellas, PA, FA mostly now. It would help to have a percentage that is generally regarded as the one that most people like to start at.
let me see if i can go get the link for ya OB
thanks! much appreciated.
what does one do if the flavor is not listed? I am trying for a black raspberry flavor. Should I just use another berry flavor?
also when it says that a flavor is better used mixed and lists a percentage, should you use that percentage or bring both flavors to the total?
bring both to that total? you don't have the black/raspberry in just one flavor?
with the lemon, just add a few drops or 1/2 ml at a time. what i do is write in my notes how many drops or mls i added onto my original percentage
with the lemon, just add a few drops or 1/2 ml at a time. what i do is write in my notes how many drops or mls i added onto my original percentage
I do not have the black/raspberry in one flavor. it does not exist.
the problem is that I am not doing tester bottles. Honestly, I just cannot for the life of me figure out how to do that.
many have explained it to me, but I just cannot grasp it.
I know this might sound ridiculous, but I do not know what that means? I mean percentage wise.
I just cannot figure out how to "fiddle"
I literally am missing the part of my brain that allows me to do this. That is the main reason I just picked a % and went with it. Of course, that means I have to get lucky and hit it just right, which barely ever happens.
now I have come full circle back to the OP of this thread.
I am not informed enough to help, but I have learned from this thread so keep it going, someone will come here and explain it so you get it, or post how to make. I want to start with stand alone flavors until I understand better. Just need a list of stand alone flavors. lol
About the Capella's and really any flavoring don't make a decision if that 15% is too much or too little until you've let it sit for a few days. It's hard to do but really a good thing because the initial flavor is not the flavor it might be a week from now---in fact I've found it is seldom is the same. Its often times stronger tasting because flavors and have had time to meld.
The percentages required of flavorings will vary from person to person-- tastebuds and how high VG you use. I am sure this has all been said before I have not read the entire thread. If you vape high VG or all VG you will need a higher percentage of flavoring than if you vape high PG.
When I mix a batch of juice that is a little weak in flavor, I just add another drop or 2 of flavoring and test it. If it's still too weak I add another drop or 2. Sometimes you can get away with doing this but eventually you are going to get too much flavoring and the whole batch will taste bad. But it's imperative to let you batch steep for at least a few days before you fiddle with it too much. I hope you are making small batches like 3 or 5ml. That way you don't lose so much of your ingredients if you have to dump it.
I am making small ones, but have not let them steep much.
I guess I have to let them sit. that's no fun. Ill try it.
I guess I have to let them sit. that's no fun. Ill try it.
I know, it's hard. Sometimes though they turn out so good you can vape them right away. They are still better after a week or 2 though.
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