Help with NicoStick Mod

[ManicResin]

So i tried to make the NicoStick with a couple of slight variations.
I used a push button on off switch instead of the two position slider.
Added an LED for looks and to make sure it is working.
I'm still waiting on my rechargeable batteries to come in so i used a 3.6v 2100mAH (Model LS14500-1) until they arrive.
Other than that I used the same parts in the tutorial.

Parts I used:
1X 3A 125V SPST Pushbutton Momentary Switch
1X Battery holder: 2 x AA Covered Battery Holder
1X Push Button on off Switch salvaged from Tap Light
1X White Led salvaged from Tap Light
1X Atomizer Housing from njoy Pro (RN4081)

The problem I am having is little or no vapor.
From the Box I get no vapor but the circuit is complete since the led is lighting up.
If I run leads straight from the battery to the atomizer I get a little smoke but much less than i do from my stock battery.

My question is it just the battery or is it something else.

This is my first e-cig mod and was hoping to learn a little more so I could try a 5v or 6v one if this one went well (so far not so well).

I tried to post some pictures but I have yet to make 15 posts.

So here is how it is wired:

Positive side of battery go to On/Off Switch -> N/O Switch -> Atomizer Socket -> Negative side of battery.

Thank you in advance, you help is greatly appreciated.

 

[punkman]

so the negative lead is going through the led?

atomizer -> led leg out the other side led leg -> ground? If so that is no
good it will not work. The led should not be inline on the circuit, not sure or not if that is the case here.

 

[ManicResin]

Yeah I'm going to change the Led wiring but I think I figured out what the main issue was this morning, its the battery I'm testing with, I will just have to wait for the new ones to arrive, thanks for the help.

Here is a link to my poorly made schematic:
h ttp://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o315/manicresin/ecig/schem.png

 

[xLowEndx]

Yeah I'm going to change the Led wiring but I think I figured out what the main issue was this morning, its the battery I'm testing with, I will just have to wait for the new ones to arrive, thanks for the help.

Here is a link to my poorly made schematic:
h ttp://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o315/manicresin/ecig/schem.png

wow! that came out pretty good and it was really easy to read! Is this working for you now? To anyone who is trained in this: Would this be the typical wiring schematic for any device like this?

 

[xLowEndx]

Is it working yet manic? I'm interested cuz this was my original idea?

 

[vendo]

I think the problem is the led. I don't use them myself but others wire them in parallel with a resistor. Try cutting the connection for the led completely taking it out of the circuit

 

[supertrkre2812]

I think the problem is the led. I don't use them myself but others wire them in parallel with a resistor. Try cutting the connection for the led completely taking it out of the circuit

I agree, the problem would appear to be the LED.
The LED is not supposed to carry the full amperage to power the atty.
disconnect the LED and wire one lead to positive before the atty, and the other lead to negative after the atty.
As it is wired right now, you are going to burn out the LED, and you are only getting a fraction of the power through the led to the atty.
Think of the LED like a volt meter. It uses the differential in voltage between positive and negative to give you a reading, ie: light instead of a voltage reading. Thats how I look at it, but I am no expert.

 

[xLowEndx]

I agree, the problem would appear to be the LED.
The LED is not supposed to carry the full amperage to power the atty.
disconnect the LED and wire one lead to positive before the atty, and the other lead to negative after the atty.
As it is wired right now, you are going to burn out the LED, and you are only getting a fraction of the power through the led to the atty.
Think of the LED like a volt meter. It uses the differential in voltage between positive and negative to give you a reading, ie: light instead of a voltage reading. Thats how I look at it, but I am no expert.

I'm starting to understand. Thanks for the info. Other than the LED is the rest o this wired correctly per the image posted on photo bucket?

 

[Nuck]

Yeah I'm going to change the Led wiring but I think I figured out what the main issue was this morning, its the battery I'm testing with, I will just have to wait for the new ones to arrive, thanks for the help.

Here is a link to my poorly made schematic:
h ttp://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o315/manicresin/ecig/schem.png

The LED was the only issue. Here is the pic with the LED moved to a reasonable location.

Keep in mind that you may require a resistor between the switch and the LED. Use this calculator to determine the resistor you will need.

LED calculator for single LEDs

 

[xLowEndx]

The LED was the only issue. Here is the pic with the LED moved to a reasonable location.

Keep in mind that you may require a resistor between the switch and the LED. Use this calculator to determine the resistor you will need.

LED calculator for single LEDs

First off, I'm sorry manic for asking a bunch of questions on your thread. Secondly I have 2 more questions:

1 - Do LEDs have a positive and negative end?

2 - What would be the best way to connect the wires (positive from switch to LED to atty and negative from LED to atty)?

 

[Nuck]

First off, I'm sorry manic for asking a bunch of questions on your thread. Secondly I have 2 more questions:

1 - Do LEDs have a positive and negative end?

2 - What would be the best way to connect the wires (positive from switch to LED to atty and negative from LED to atty)?

1 - Yes they do. The long leg is the positive.

2 - Not really sure what you mean. The LED cannot be placed in series with the main circuit. Just follow the diagram and you will be fine.

 

[mnealtx]

I think he's having problems understanding the diagram.

Lowend - the LED is added on top of the 'normal' atomizer wiring - it doesn't take the place of anything else. You'll have two wires coming off the switch; one to the center of the atomizer, and one to the LED and resistor. You attach the other side of the LED wiring to the outside of the atomizer.

Hope this helps.

 

[xLowEndx]

I think he's having problems understanding the diagram.

Lowend - the LED is added on top of the 'normal' atomizer wiring - it doesn't take the place of anything else. You'll have two wires coming off the switch; one to the center of the atomizer, and one to the LED and resistor. You attach the other side of the LED wiring to the outside of the atomizer.

Hope this helps.

Thanks guys. It was just the diagram that threw me off. I saw a three way link between the led atty and battery. So the best way to do it would be to have 2 positive leads from the switch (one to the led and one to the atty) and 2 negative leads to the atty (one from led and one to the battery)? And of course there would be a resistor before the led.

Am I correct?

 

[mnealtx]

By George, I think he's got it!

Yeah, that's correct. You have your 'normal' atomizer connections, then the LED can be added at your leisure.

 

[xLowEndx]

By George, I think he's got it!

Yeah, that's correct. You have your 'normal' atomizer connections, then the LED can be added at your leisure.

AWESOME!!! Thanks guys for the clarifications. Other than taking classes some where does anyone know where I could get lessons/tutorials/schematics/etc. about all this electrical stuff?

 

[vendo]

AWESOME!!! Thanks guys for the clarifications. Other than taking classes some where does anyone know where I could get lessons/tutorials/schematics/etc. about all this electrical stuff?

Google is your friend

 

[xLowEndx]

Google is your friend

All I find is half ... explanations. Lame.

 

[mnealtx]

Start with the 'soldering tips' thread.

 

[Nuck]

2-3 months ago I didn't know what a resistor was. The threads here, over at the other forum and google have taught me about every issue I needed to learn about.

The information is all there, you just have to be tenacious about searching for it.

 

[xLowEndx]

Thanks for the help everyone.