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michael69

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Rob is making me a woodvil at the moment and I need to decide pretty soon whether to go for the 801 native connection (as I had originally planned).... now I'm getting cold feet; I'm nervous that it may cause me trouble on a juice-feeder.

Before you say so, I know many will say use an adapter, but the point is I have had zero luck with adapters so far, which is why I was thinking about the 801 woodvil.

Now, I have used 801's before and love the taste/vapour that I have experienced; point is I haven't yet used one on a juice fed device....

Please can you give me some advice here... Rob must be getting sick of my dithering (I took an age deciding on which woods to go for as it is!)

Who has the 801 woodvil?

I'd really appreciate some help deciding if you could.

Many thanks,

Paul
 

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Just my 2 cents here...I've used 801's and like them, but they aren't my main vape. 510 is hands down the most "popular" fitting, and most improvements in the ecig world are fitted there first. I'm a 901 guy, myself, but I got the 510 anyway, for that particular reason, and have never regretted it.

As for adapters, if you check them periodically with a multimeter, you should be okay to use them.

That said, the REAL solution is...3 REOs, a 510, a 901 and an 801 :)

ETA: Wait!....you need backup too, so I guess that's SIX REOs
 

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Yes... except of course I have a mini Reo, soon to have a mini woodvil, plus a sabertouch and a copper..... all 510 native, so I'm thinking it would be great to have a 6v option (native) for 801 to give me more options... plus the bottom feeding method (which I haven't experienced yet on 801) seems like it would be nice..... matter of fact, right now I've actually managed to get a 510-801 adapter working (for once!) and I'm currently enjoying an 801 atty with my 5v passthru...... and I do enjoy the firmer draw/more laid back thing as well as the harder hitting 510/306...... be good to get that extra volt going though I reckon.....
seems like it would, in fact, make sense for me to ask Rob for an 801 on my woodvil after all.....

anyway, knowing me, I'll probably end up buying another, at some point, with a 510! and, naturally, a grand too.........

Well you did not say that but that changes everything of course. If you like 510 and 306 as well as you do 801 than I would say get the 510 because it offers you more verity than only 801.
 

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I also like 901's (hey I like everything!); didn't realise Rob had an option of 901 as well? I posted in response to 'want to quit' before I'd seen your post ancient (do you mind if I call you ancient!?); see below and your suggestion of 6 Reos is probably not far off the mark!

Just my 2 cents here...I've used 801's and like them, but they aren't my main vape. 510 is hands down the most "popular" fitting, and most improvements in the ecig world are fitted there first. I'm a 901 guy, myself, but I got the 510 anyway, for that particular reason, and have never regretted it.

As for adapters, if you check them periodically with a multimeter, you should be okay to use them.

That said, the REAL solution is...3 REOs, a 510, a 901 and an 801 :)

ETA: Wait!....you need backup too, so I guess that's SIX REOs
 

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I have an old Purpleheart 801 Woody and an 801 Oak/Oak Woodvil (and several other 510 Woodvils, three 510 Mini Woodvils, and one more coming).

I'll get at least one 801 Midi Woodvil.

I love the 801 and prefer it for some of my juices. One juice, in particular, COV Butterscotch is very heavy on the PGA and is almost like vaping liquor on a 510 or 306. So I usually mix it with other juices to "calm" it down some. I can vape it straight with a 2.0 ohm 801.

My DH vaped the pen style 801 with atty and cart for several months before he startd using my 801 Woody. One thing that was very outstanding is the fabulous smell of his tobacco flavors, when we were in close spaces like the car. He's using a 510 Reo Mini, now, with same juices and I do not smell the juices much, in the car. He vapes like a pipe smoker so a lot of his vapor goes into the air that is not inhaled.

The learning curve for the 801 is constant as it vapes much differently with individual juices and as the viscosity of juices change due to air temps. In my case air temps have ranged from single digit F to 110 F as I'm in North Central Texas and I am outside a lot. The 510 and 306 experience is a bit more consistent with different juices and air temps.

Some of us had self feeding issues with every size 510-801 adapter, stealth, medium, tall ( I did not try the adapter with the center pin though.) and every height 801 tube. The catch cup would over flow, when mod was set down and not used for a few minutes. The only way I solved the issue was to use an 801 atty on an 801 native Reo.

As anyone will tell you, my wood 801 Reos take occasional swims in my spa. The 801 atty performs great after a swim, after a blow out and a bit of pulsing dry burning, to get all the water out. With the 510s I have to go in the house and get another atty. BTW.... with the wood Reos, that go swimming I can start vaping them immediately after they swim, with a quick drying of Reo and battery BUT with the metal Reos it's best to let them dry out first. Water gets up in the chamber where the firing pin is housed.

Disclaimer.... I don't recommend letting you Reos swim but DH and I are permissive parents.

I do keep my Wood Reos well oiled with Howard's Sun on outside and Howard's Feed on inside bare wood. And I take only two of my Wood Reos outside near the pool and spa.

My next wood Reo, as soon as I choose the wood, will be a stabilized 801 Midi so an occasional swim will be no big deal. I hope Rob can get it made, in time, to take it to Vegas Vapefest.

I purchased every special 801 that Isaac (Ikenvape) sold, standard, Mini (old and new) and Semi; different ohm ranges. I love the Semi size but they are not being made any more. So I lucked out and bought 20 X 801 Talls 2.0 ohm for <$1.50 each when he changed the innards a bit. I use a pipe cutter to cut them to the size I like, then ream out the end crimp, a bit, with duck bill pliers so an 801 DT or 801-510 DT adapter will fit.

The 801s are very tough attys!!!! And I can go over a month, vaping sweet juices, without needing to clean them. In our house, almost a year vaping for the two of us, only one 801 has been killed/popped. That was the first day DH had his Pen Style 801 from letting it get too dry. It was a low bridge 3.0 ohm using a cart.

Gotta run for now but ask more questions, please. I'm on and off the board, daily, but sometimes don't have time to post.

Hope this helps some, Alice
 
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Wow... thanks Alice; that's a great help!

as I just posted, I've finally got a 510-801 adapter going with my p/thru and am enjoying it right now...

I would be using the woodvil 801 mainly at 6v I think; I trust this is a good option?

when you say "swim", do you mean that you actually immerse the woodvil in water (the pool)?

also, you mentioned that you're getting a "stabilized" midi - what does that mean exactly?

I think i will go for the 801 for this one (since I already have a number of 510 mods)

your thoughts are very helpful, thanks again!

Paul

I have an old Purpleheart 801 Woody and an 801 Oak/Oak Woodvil (and several other 510 Woodvils, three 510 Mini Woodvils, and one more coming).

I'll get at least one 801 Midi Woodvil.

I love the 801 and prefer it for some of my juices. One juice, in particular, COV Butterscotch is very heavy on the PGA and is almost like vaping liquor on a 510 or 306. So I usually mix it with other juices to "calm" it down some. I can vape it straight with a 2.0 ohm 801.

My DH vaped the pen style 801 with atty and cart for several months before he startd using my 801 Woody. One thing that was very outstanding is the fabulous smell of his tobacco flavors, when we were in close spaces like the car. He's using a 510 Reo Mini, now, with same juices and I do not smell the juices much, in the car. He vapes like a pipe smoker so a lot of his vapor goes into the air that is not inhaled.

The learning curve for the 801 is constant as it vapes much differently with individual juices and as the viscosity of juices change due to air temps. In my case air temps have ranged from single digit F to 110 F as I'm in North Central Texas and I am outside a lot. The 510 and 306 experience is a bit more consistent with different juices and air temps.

Some of us had self feeding issues with every size 510-801 adapter, stealth, medium, tall ( I did not try the adapter with the center pin though.) and every height 801 tube. The catch cup would over flow, when mod was set down and not used for a few minutes. The only way I solved the issue was to use an 801 atty on an 801 native Reo.

As anyone will tell you, my wood 801 Reos take occasional swims in my spa. The 801 atty performs great after a swim, after a blow out and a bit of pulsing dry burning, to get all the water out. With the 510s I have to go in the house and get another atty. BTW.... with the wood Reos, that go swimming I can start vaping them immediately after they swim, with a quick drying of Reo and battery BUT with the metal Reos it's best to let them dry out first. Water gets up in the chamber where the firing pin is housed.

Disclaimer.... I don't recommend letting you Reos swim but DH and I are permissive parents.

I do keep my Wood Reos well oiled with Howard's Sun on outside and Howard's Feed on inside bare wood. And I take only two of my Wood Reos outside near the pool and spa.

My next wood Reo, as soon as I choose the wood, will be a stabilized 801 Midi so an occasional swim will be no big deal. I hope Rob can get it made, in time, to take it to Vegas Vapefest.

I purchased every special 801 that Isaac (Ikenvape) sold, standard, Mini (old and new) and Semi; different ohm ranges. I love the Semi size but they are not being made any more. So I lucked out and bought 20 X 801 Talls 2.0 ohm for <$1.50 each when he changed the innards a bit. I use a pipe cutter to cut them to the size I like, then ream out the end crimp, a bit, with duck bill pliers so an 801 DT or 801-510 DT adapter will fit.

The 801s are very tough attys!!!! And I can go over a month, vaping sweet juices, without needing to clean them. In our house, almost a year vaping for the two of us, only one 801 has been killed/popped. That was the first day DH had his Pen Style 801 from letting it get too dry. It was a low bridge 3.0 ohm using a cart.

Gotta run for now but ask more questions, please. I'm on and off the board, daily, but sometimes don't have time to post.

Hope this helps some, Alice
 

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I also like 901's (hey I like everything!); didn't realise Rob had an option of 901 as well? I posted in response to 'want to quit' before I'd seen your post ancient (do you mind if I call you ancient!?); see below and your suggestion of 6 Reos is probably not far off the mark!

Ancient is just fine, it's what everyone that knows me (that's under 40) calls me LOL

I'm not sure about the 901, but you can PM Rob and see if that's an option. I think if you give him enough time, he can make you one that can wash clothes and take out the trash for ya. :)
 

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Wow... thanks Alice; that's a great help!

as I just posted, I've finally got a 510-801 adapter going with my p/thru and am enjoying it right now...

I would be using the woodvil 801 mainly at 6v I think; I trust this is a good option?

when you say "swim", do you mean that you actually immerse the woodvil in water (the pool)?

also, you mentioned that you're getting a "stabilized" midi - what does that mean exactly?

I think i will go for the 801 for this one (since I already have a number of 510 mods)

your thoughts are very helpful, thanks again!

Paul

I spend a lot of time in my spa, year round, for arthritis, and old and new injuries. I'm talking hours at a time and even take naps. WARNING If a spa session lasts more than a few minutes, for health and safety reasons, water temp must be no higher than 100F. With our triple digit temps I'm finding that 97 is good water temp. And I have a fan that blows air over the water and sun shading for day time soaking. With these air temps I have to work pretty hard to keep the water temp down by using the bubbler more than usual.

And I'm known to enjoy some wine coolers while soaking in the spa (and working outside and inside and watching TV and cruising ECF, and visiting friends...........) In 26 years I haven't yet drowned while sleeping in the spa. I'm part fish. Also, my dogs like to join me and I have five giant to medium size young dogs. I'm now changing out the filters twice a day and I'm the most OCD person about keeping water balanced and sanitized as you will find. If water is perfectly balanced your skin doesn't get like a prune, dyed hair doesn't change colors, there is no chemical smell, and your eyes will never get red or sting. I keep the pH a little low for the dogs and my skin; about 7.2 pH.

So there are many chances for any PV to take a dive in. All the Reos, wood and metal, sink immediately. I've gotten rid of most of my other mods but kept the Provari, Don, and Roughstack, short and tall. The Roughstacks go out into the woods with me, to work, with carto, as I wouldn't "lose it" if I lost one. Losing a Reo is another matter. They are all "family" and cherished pieces of art.

Provari and Roughstack would be seriously damaged, if they took a swim, due to the electronic components. Don (mostly a loner) is mechanical but it's a little delicate in terms of aluminum thickness and scratching, and after using a bottom feeder, only a tank or carto on a non-bottom feeder is acceptable, but either would need to be replaced it PV took a swim; re. getting filled with water.

Stabilized wood is real wood that has had acrylics, resins, or similar, pressure forced into the wood. It stabilizes the wood so that it is very tough, impervious to most substances, and makes fragile woods more workable. It can be done with clear or colors and even multi-colors. Rob has made two for "unsure" and I'm sure he is working, at this moment, on several more for other people. Look up "Unsure" and go to his home page, on ECF, to see pictures of his. One is named "Nebula." When you see the picture you'll know why it is named that.

Alice
 

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Interesting info about stabilized wood, thanks for that; I'll investigate.

Yes, i use lifepo4's for 6v in other mods; do you use these in your 801 woodvil?

P

Forgot to say, 5v, 6v, and 7.2v are great in the Grand and full sized Woodvil. There is even a set of batteries, that will stack in either the Mini Woodvil or Mini Reo. I only use LifeP04 for stacking, though, because of the safety of that chemistry.

Alice
 
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