Hey all, advice on next e-cig to buy/

[Drozd]

im not really sure what any of that means but mine has been working great and i get like 2 days from a single charge

lol what it means in simplest terms...is that if you choose to try LR atties...it won't really be at 3.7V...and the very act of running it will slowly kill the battery...capacity and charge times will get less and less...eventually the batteries will be juink and you'll have to replace them...and you're locked into an odd size battery...

Holy moly... Drozd knows more than i will ever know even if I live to be 184 years old... All I know is I could never "out puff' 2 standrard EGO 650 mah batteries. So no purpose to get bigger for me...even if it was better. Makes no difference.

lol you think that now...but the same thing applies to eGos and ALL other stock batteries....the very act of running them will kill their capacity over time and they're really not going to deliver the performance of the atty that they could...
it's really an educated risk... if the eGo delivers acceptably before it dies...and the acceptance that we are slowly killing them and amount of time that they'll hold a charge... that you're getting your money's worth out of it...
as for outpuffing it... well standard eGo has a max drain rate of .65A ....standard 510 has an amp draw of 1.61A.. so yeah sorry... the very act of using them is overstressing them...

a mod running a 14500 high drain battery is the same size and doesnt experience the voltage sag or this problem...so improved performance in the same size....you can actually get even smaller (shorter but wider) with improved performance

 

[rege]

lol what it means in simplest terms...is that if you choose to try LR atties...it won't really be at 3.7V...and the very act of running it will slowly kill the battery...capacity and charge times will get less and less...eventually the batteries will be juink and you'll have to replace them...and you're locked into an odd size battery...

what if i dont use a lr atty i use a regular atty?

 

[Drozd]

lol what it means in simplest terms...is that if you choose to try LR atties...it won't really be at 3.7V...and the very act of running it will slowly kill the battery...capacity and charge times will get less and less...eventually the batteries will be juink and you'll have to replace them...and you're locked into an odd size battery...

what if i dont use a lr atty i use a regular atty?

it's still being run at near full out it's ability...it'll stress and kill it eventually... you'll see a bit of the voltage sag... (the amp draw of a standard atty at full battery charge is 1.9A... the battery at max can deliver 1.8A).... when the battery settles down to it's nominal voltage it'll be an amp draw of 1.61A versus a max on the battery of 1.8A.....so like I said it's close...still stressing it (overstressing it at full charge) and eventually killing it's capacity...

 

[rege]

that sucks but at least the batterys are cheap

 

[Drozd]

that sucks but at least the batterys are cheap

it'll take a while...and it's not like it's a horrid device in and of itself...just saying that there's other stuff that would serve you better as far as battery life and performance goes...

and truthfully it's an issue that all stock batteries will see, as well as mods that use 10440 batteries, most 14500 batteries, and most 16340 batteries too... so don't feel bad

outside of the larger 18650 batteries with upwards of 2200 mAh ...it's a possible problem with smaller batteries except high drains...

 

[rege]

it'll take a while...and it's not like it's a horrid device in and of itself...just saying that there's other stuff that would serve you better as far as battery life and performance goes...

and truthfully it's an issue that all stock batteries will see, as well as mods that use 10440 batteries, most 14500 batteries, and most 16340 batteries too... so don't feel bad

outside of the larger 18650 batteries with upwards of 2200 mAh ...it's a possible problem with smaller batteries except high drains...

so since you seem to know so much about batteries in your opinion what is the best one to get?

 

[Drozd]

so since you seem to know so much about batteries in your opinion what is the best one to get?

anything running an 18650 battery.....or AW IMR 16340.....or AW IMR 14500...
any of them will provide sufficient amperage to run any atty without damage to the battery...
18650s will additionally give you longer runtimes but are obviously larger in size...

 

[rege]

anything running an 18650 battery.....or AW IMR 16340.....or AW IMR 14500...
any of them will provide sufficient amperage to run any atty without damage to the battery...
18650s will additionally give you longer runtimes but are obviously larger in size...

thanks ill have to consider that next time

 

[BethInMichigan]

Love the mega ego (also called tornado or 510 mega ego) I got. The battery last all day and then some. Most places sell it as a two pack. Get some cartomizers too.

 

[flbutterfly1]

Another vote for 306 cartomizers they work great and still fit in the Blu pcc. I get the same amount of vapor out of my Blu as my 510 and the Blu is a more convenient size for me. Even if you were to get a 510 or other pv I would suggest the cartos they hold so much more juice than carts and way more than Blu carts.

 

[Drozd]

Another vote for 306 cartomizers they work great and still fit in the Blu pcc. I get the same amount of vapor out of my Blu as my 510 and the Blu is a more convenient size for me. Even if you were to get a 510 or other pv I would suggest the cartos they hold so much more juice than carts and way more than Blu carts.

the 510, 306, blu, and l88b (and one other are all threaded the same)
the parts for the most part can be used interchangeably.... the difference is that the polarity on the blu and l88b is reversed from the 510 and 306... so you cant charge a blue battery on a 510 or 306 charger....or a 510 or 506 on a blu charger or pcc

 

[deftech]

Considering that I also started out with something similar to the BLU, but possibly a bit better, here is a thread I wrote a while back when i got my EGO to compare. It is useful as it will compare it to something similar to what you have now...admittedly from my perspective, but still...

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...comparison-vs-store-e-cigs-newbie-advice.html

One of the main points was that i was VERY concerned whether my EGO would be the same as what i had....and be done with the whole ecig thing... not really the extra money spent on it.

Thanks for posting this detailed review. It's always nice to hear real world experiences with these things when trying to decide which route to go. Your comments on the EGO have all but made up my mind as I sit here typing this and scowling at my greensmoke kit. Now I have to figure out whether or not to RMA the greensmoke or keep it as a backup/driving unit.

 

[oblivion2k]

yeah a bigger inferior battery...runs on ultrafire 1200mAh 18350 batteries right?
those have a max drain rate of 1.8A

a standard 2.2Ω 510 atty has an amp draw of 1.61A...so that's close...choose to use a LR atty and thats 2.41A draw...you're overstressing the battery which will kill it...and you're experiencing "voltage sag"

meanwhile a device that'l run a 16340 instead you can use a high drain battery that has a max drain rate of 4.4A...more than enough for any atty you throw at it without any voltage sag...

Haha wow, did you know what alt+key combination Ohm was or did you have to look it up?

 

[oblivion2k]

Thanks for posting this detailed review. It's always nice to hear real world experiences with these things when trying to decide which route to go. Your comments on the EGO have all but made up my mind as I sit here typing this and scowling at my greensmoke kit. Now I have to figure out whether or not to RMA the greensmoke or keep it as a backup/driving unit.

I'm going to RMA my Blu as soon as my eGo arrives. Just buy a kit with two batteries in it and carry a 5ml juice bottle with you wherever you go and you should be fine.
As for driving, I'll let you know how that goes when I receive mine. It'll probably be a little heavier than my Blu so we'll see if that makes any difference on my ability to drive and vape.

EDIT:

I just got an update from the owner of arcticvapor.com, he cleared up the issue of whether the kit I bought has a charger or not. In fact, this impressed me so much I decided to post the email here
Kurtis,
I saw your message on ECF and rest assured there is a charger and wall adapter included in the eGo kit you purchased.
All of the kits include minimum a USB charger, but this one also includes a wall adapter.
Your package was shipped out this afternoon, and you should be receiving an e-mail via USPS with your tracking number.
If you have any other questions, I would be happy to help.
Dan

Seriously, that's amazing. He found my post on this forum, and replied personally to me assuring me that the kit I bought comes with a charger. I have NEVER had customer service this good so at the risk of sounding like a spambot I'm throwing it out there that these guys are awesome. Arcticvapor is where it's at.

 

[DocWyatt]

Thanks for posting this detailed review. It's always nice to hear real world experiences with these things when trying to decide which route to go. Your comments on the EGO have all but made up my mind as I sit here typing this and scowling at my greensmoke kit. Now I have to figure out whether or not to RMA the greensmoke or keep it as a backup/driving unit.

Unfortunately one of my batteries on my Safe Cig just went poof. One month. Perhaps I got liquid on it or something, hard to say... This is why most heavy vapors prefer a manual battery... no juice worries....

It is also possible it is just a piece of junk, lol.

Weird..it won't charge, but flashes when try to use it, meaning low on power. Put it on the charger...light turns green, but not charged...waaa...

 

[oblivion2k]

Unfortunately one of my batteries on my Safe Cig just went poof. One month. Perhaps I got liquid on it or something, hard to say... This is why most heavy vapors prefer a manual battery... no juice worries....

It is also possible it is just a piece of junk, lol.

That's nothing, one week after I got my Blu kit once of my batteries completely died. Part of the reason why I'm returning it now.

 

[hairball]

LF has a great sale going on for the Riva. It's the same as the eGo but a slightly, and I mean slightly, bigger battery.

 

[DocWyatt]

Thats good news Oblivion.. I assumed it had to have a charger... but always good to check for sure... Rather difficult to vape with no power... lol.

 

[DocWyatt]

That's nothing, one week after I got my Blu kit once of my batteries completely died. Part of the reason why I'm returning it now.

Yeah... my guess is most of these minis just can't take heavy use. They constantly get drained....and charged..drained and charged... then they are done.

I like the taste of it though... I may buy an 4081 adapter for my EGO and see if it tastes the same ...or not. Will be interesting..

 

[Annie Miller]

My advice would be to get one of these three pv's. An ego, a 510 riva, or a Hello 016. I would also suggest getting some cartomizers and drip tips.

I have to agree with that I have tried both the riva and the ego, and they are both awesome, I puffing on a ego with a 510 cartomizer right now