Hic recipes.

[classwife]

 

[IDJoel]

We can't link to the other forum, that much i knew. Now i know that posting his recipes here without his permission and link to the other forum is going against his wishes. But is it against ECF rules ?

You can read the Forum Rules and decide for yourself. These are what jump out at me:

And:

Bottom line is it is ECF's ball and ball game. We can choose to play, and agree to play by their rules, or we can choose not, to and go elsewhere.

 

[Mazinny]

You can read the Forum Rules and decide for yourself. These are what jump out at me:
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Bottom line is it is ECF's ball and ball game. We can choose to play, and agree to play by their rules, or we can choose not, to and go elsewhere.

Thanks. It all seems a little too complicated for some e-liquid recipes. There are thousands of them all over the internet.

I'm just getting into DIY and most of the flavors i ordered are FA, so it would be nice to see his recipes here, but i guess i can go to the other forum, if it's not allowed here.

 

[IDJoel]

but i guess i can go to the other forum, if it's not allowed here.

If one wishes to respect both HIC's, and ECF's, wishes; then yes... that is about your only option.

 

[LeeLee26]

Wow, i just mixed the top recipe , lemon, whipped cream and cookie and it's outstanding .

I used Jungle flavors juicy lemon since i don't have Lemon Sicily but it works great , thanks for reposting the above recipes.

Does your lemon fade? Both my lemon an lime seem too. I just add another drop or two in my tank.

 

[LeeLee26]

Do you know for how long the lemon cake tastes good? I was very (unpleasantly) surprised that my recent batch of INA Lemon cake faded in 5 days!!


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Both my lemon an lime faded I just added a drop or two in my tank

 

[herb]

Does your lemon fade? Both my lemon an lime seem too. I just add another drop or two in my tank.

Actually this is the first time i am using this lemon so i can't say at this point , i will let you know if i notice anything as it has more time to steep.

I felt that the lemon percentage was a little high and it tasted that way so i added a couple drops of biscuit instead of more cookie and it's more balanced now .

 

[IDJoel]

Does your lemon fade? Both my lemon an lime seem too. I just add another drop or two in my tank.

Both my lemon an lime faded I just added a drop or two in my tank

@LeeLee26 , how exactly did you mix your lemon recipe(s) up? Did you use any form of heat, aggressive stirring (like a frother), or leave the top of your fresh mix off for any length of time?

I ask because I find many of the lemon flavors very dependent on aromatic notes for their overall flavor profile. This means that things like heat, aggressive mixing, and extended exposure to fresh air (open-top aging, and excessive head space), all seem to encourage the evaporation/loss of these aromatic (volatile) elements causing flavor fade.

This can even happen after the initial mixing if you are storing the juice in a warm environment like a car, or close to your body (body heat). Extended exposure to air, like a half-empty bottle, gives plenty of room for those volatiles to evaporate. And gas permeable plastics, like LDPE bottles, or even the soft rubber bulb (and bottle gasket) frequently used with glass eye dropper tops, provide easy escape routes for those precious aromatics to escape.

The more of these you combine; the faster the flavor seems to fade. If you feel the need to heat-treat you fresh recipe you might want to leave the citrus notes out until after the rest of the mix has returned to room temp. Also, I have found that for me, mixing no more than a two week supply, leaves me with about the right amount not to have to worry about fading. At least this is what is working best for me so far.

 

[LeeLee26]

Actually this is the first time i am using this lemon so i can't say at this point , i will let you know if i notice anything as it has more time to steep.

I felt that the lemon percentage was a little high and it tasted that way so i added a couple drops of biscuit instead of more cookie and it's more balanced now .

I have to get some biscuit. I been wanting to try it.

 

[LeeLee26]

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@LeeLee26 , how exactly did you mix your lemon recipe(s) up? Did you use any form of heat, aggressive stirring (like a frother), or leave the top of your fresh mix off for any length of time?

I ask because I find many of the lemon flavors very dependent on aromatic notes for their overall flavor profile. This means that things like heat, aggressive mixing, and extended exposure to fresh air (open-top aging, and excessive head space), all seem to encourage the evaporation/loss of these aromatic (volatile) elements causing flavor fade.

This can even happen after the initial mixing if you are storing the juice in a warm environment like a car, or close to your body (body heat). Extended exposure to air, like a half-empty bottle, gives plenty of room for those volatiles to evaporate. And gas permeable plastics, like LDPE bottles, or even the soft rubber bulb (and bottle gasket) frequently used with glass eye dropper tops, provide easy escape routes for those precious aromatics to escape.

The more of these you combine; the faster the flavor seems to fade. If you feel the need to heat-treat you fresh recipe you might want to leave the citrus notes out until after the rest of the mix has returned to room temp. Also, I have found that for me, mixing no more than a two week supply, leaves me with about the right amount not to have to worry about fading. At least this is what is working best for me so far.

I just shake an vape. I am not in to all the fancy stuff

 

[LeeLee26]

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@LeeLee26 , how exactly did you mix your lemon recipe(s) up? Did you use any form of heat, aggressive stirring (like a frother), or leave the top of your fresh mix off for any length of time?

I ask because I find many of the lemon flavors very dependent on aromatic notes for their overall flavor profile. This means that things like heat, aggressive mixing, and extended exposure to fresh air (open-top aging, and excessive head space), all seem to encourage the evaporation/loss of these aromatic (volatile) elements causing flavor fade.

This can even happen after the initial mixing if you are storing the juice in a warm environment like a car, or close to your body (body heat). Extended exposure to air, like a half-empty bottle, gives plenty of room for those volatiles to evaporate. And gas permeable plastics, like LDPE bottles, or even the soft rubber bulb (and bottle gasket) frequently used with glass eye dropper tops, provide easy escape routes for those precious aromatics to escape.

The more of these you combine; the faster the flavor seems to fade. If you feel the need to heat-treat you fresh recipe you might want to leave the citrus notes out until after the rest of the mix has returned to room temp. Also, I have found that for me, mixing no more than a two week supply, leaves me with about the right amount not to have to worry about fading. At least this is what is working best for me so far.

good to know. Thank you. I made 5 ml in a 15 ml bottle. Shake an vape. The next day I couldn't hardly taste the lemon or the lime in the other one. But they are both so good I am still vaping just these two

 

[LeeLee26]

Thanks. It all seems a little too complicated for some e-liquid recipes. There are thousands of them all over the internet.

I'm just getting into DIY and most of the flavors i ordered are FA, so it would be nice to see his recipes here, but i guess i can go to the other forum, if it's not allowed here.

I found them thru google. An I really don't like the other forum but you can use the search an find hic recipes

 

[bwh79]

You can read the Forum Rules and decide for yourself. These are what jump out at me:
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That explains the..."subterranean" site. But I still wonder about the "cookbook" one?

 

[retired1]

Is ecf advocation censorship?

 

[retired1]

That explains the..."subterranean" site. But I still wonder about the "cookbook" one?

If you dig deep enough in the DIY forum, you'll find the reason why.

 

[Mazinny]

I found them thru google. An I really don't like the other forum but you can use the search an find hic recipes

Thanks. I actually found a reddit post with a lot of his earlier ( free ) recipes along with a bunch of other mostly FA recipes in one place. They link back to the other forum, so probably shouldn't be posted here though.

I'm just getting started with DIY, and i'm not sure about the proper etiquette re. sharing and discussing others recipes.

 

[Koolkiz]

I tried the Hic recipes. Not my cup of tea. He/she uses old school clearomizers. The key with Flavourart is to know your flavoring. Flavorah flavoring are better than FA.
Just a FYI to those who want to venture to the other place. It is insecure and your personal info can be stolen.

 

[Mazinny]

^^^ You said a lot in a few short lines

I tried the Hic recipes. Not my cup of tea. He/she uses old school clearomizers.

You not liking his recipes is obviously a personal opinion, but are you saying that it's because they are geared for lower wattage vaping ?

The key with Flavourart is to know your flavoring.

I'm a little unsure what you mean by this. Are you saying that you have to be more exact with the percentages i.e they aren't as forgiving as some other brands ?

Flavorah flavoring are better than FA.

Lol, I just bought $60 worth of mostly FA flavorings. Just starting DIY and I haven't heard of Flavorah. What do you like about them. What are some of their better flavors in your opinion. Do you need to use higher percentages like TFA or lower percentages like FA ?

Just a FYI to those who want to venture to the other place. It is insecure and your personal info can be stolen.

Not a fan of the other forum, but i hadn't heard this before. Are you saying personal info could be stolen even if you're just browsing some pages ? Even without signing in ? Do you have any evidence of this or links discussing it ?

 

[Koolkiz]

^^^ You said a lot in a few short lines


You not liking his recipes is obviously a personal opinion, but are you saying that it's because they are geared for lower wattage vaping ?


I'm a little unsure what you mean by this. Are you saying that you have to be more exact with the percentages i.e they aren't as forgiving as some other brands ?


Lol, I just bought $60 worth of mostly FA flavorings. Just starting DIY and I haven't heard of Flavorah. What do you like about them. What are some of their better flavors in your opinion. Do you need to use higher percentages like TFA or lower percentages like FA ?



Not a fan of the other forum, but i hadn't heard this before. Are you saying personal info could be stolen even if you're just browsing some pages ? Even without signing in ? Do you have any evidence of this or links discussing it ?

To me they are weak and tasteless. However, its my opinion and belongs to me.
I believe FA is not a super concentrate overall. Some can be SC though. I usually research each and every flavoring and taste test each so I know how to use it in a recipe.

In regards to the other forum. If you sign up and go though a computer it is not SSL. The anti virus I use displays this info and a warning comes up stating my information can be compromised. Check it out for yourself.

 

[herb]

Just my opinion but i find Flavorah to be grossly overpriced and mediocre at best in the flavoring dept , no way is it on the level as FA but again thats just my opinion.

I don't feel the need to engage in an all out brawl to the death is someone disagrees but i am willing to perish if necessary .