Hit it or Quit it - Wakonda (SR)

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Kent Brooks

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I absolutely LOVE the CLS and creme brulee!:2cool: Thanks for the welcome and compliment. That is my sweetie Yuna. She is a hawkheaded parrot with one foot. But that does not slow her down.

Katy has a tripod named Charlie - feet are over-rated I hear.

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I absolutely LOVE the CLS and creme brulee!:2cool: Thanks for the welcome and compliment. That is my sweetie Yuna. She is a hawkheaded parrot with one foot. But that does not slow her down.

Yuna is a beauty! I always did admire the Hawkhead's. They have a special personality all their own!
 

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If (I hope it's more like "when") more Wakonda is released do you think you'll include a 24mg option again? I just noticed (based on stickied updates to SRs) this was once an option for Wakonda. Having stronger nic Wakonda would be pretty awesome - a bottle set aside for stressful moments! :laugh:

We did it as a test/beta run - it was super short, only a single liter... it sold, but demand wasn't really there for more than a single liter. Ironically enough we were thinking the same thing... Wakonda is a great "Wake and vape" - the extra kick might be beneficial for some.
 

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That's actually cool the demand wasn't there for the higher nic - and that our thought process is the same regarding Wakonda being a great candidate for higher nic if any. Personally I'd love some 36mg Wakonda, just for the morning! Then 18 for the rest of the day / stressful times :)

I've got some 36mg chocolate covered banana from another vendor for the stressful times purpose. Doesn't taste 1/1000th as good as anything NT though :(
 

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That's actually cool the demand wasn't there for the higher nic - and that our thought process is the same regarding Wakonda being a great candidate for higher nic if any. Personally I'd love some 36mg Wakonda, just for the morning! Then 18 for the rest of the day / stressful times :)

I've got some 36mg chocolate covered banana from another vendor for the stressful times purpose. Doesn't taste 1/1000th as good as anything NT though :(

There's a thought process behind eliminating 24mg.

1) If you want to ruin a perfectly good bottle, put 24mg or more nicotine in it.
2) In as much as we welcome people are new to vaping, the folks who are hitting 24mg are generally doing so because they have very inefficient delivery devices. Case in point... I picked up a Kanger Protank II with an Aerobase today... microcoiled, cotton wicked... the works, right? I dropped 12mg in it, and compared to a dripper, I was left thinking "Hrmmm, vapor production is good, taste is fantastic.. but I think I need more nic!" Mind you, I am a 3-6mg vaper on a dripper!
3) When we positioned NT, it was positioned between two very diffinitive market segments - we're typically not a "first stop vendor." You know who you all ordered online with first - maybe was us, but odds are it was with a lower priced value vendor with a wide variety of choices. The way it typically goes is someone will order 3-4 flavors, like 1. Re-order the 1 they like and "get adventurous" with 3-4 more... and get lucky if they find another one they like. Then, they start wandering because at some point $4.99 for 15ml doesn't look like a good value when 3/4th of the bottles you buy are rotting in a box because they are unvapable... so, it becomes a question of finding a vendor that is more consistant - puts put less "crap" - and manages to push your buttons more often than they miss. No vendor is going to hit 100% of the shots they take with everyone, but honestly, I think *most* people who venture through the entirety of our small line-up will find they like the majority of it, and really really LOVE 1-2-3 flavors. It's unfortunate, but I almost have to let people get burnt by other vendors so they they appreciate what we do. The reverse has happened, also - people found us, early... wander out and fill a shoebox full of unmentionables under the poor assumption that high price translates into a panacea liquid - and - DOH... lots of dough, wasted. It's ironic though, as soon as I think "hrmmm, wonder where so-and-so has been lately" - they'll pop up, eventually... just a matter of time before most people (save the uber adverturous that are constantly wandering) settle down somewhere. We provide cushy seats and the entertainment is good. LMAO
 

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Wow Kent, that's super informative. I had no idea that drippers made a difference like that--I thought it was purely a taste thing. Granted, I'm not familiar with drippers and don't understand the real idea behind them. I'm still new to vaping and all I've got is a Kanger Protank 2 (stock coils/wick) and iClear16 (stock coils/wick). I need to start doing some research on drippers, etc -- but not before pay check...i get trigger happy sometimes (if you haven't noticed)
 

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I received my first sample of Wakonda today and I'm really enjoying it. Very satisfying in an IBTanked carto tank atop an MVP. I'm still playing around with the wattage but it's looking like 7.5 watts is about the sweet spot for me. I hope the coffee flavor doesn't weaken too much over time. It's pretty much spot on straight from the mailbox. Good stuff!
 

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Wow Kent, that's super informative. I had no idea that drippers made a difference like that--I thought it was purely a taste thing. Granted, I'm not familiar with drippers and don't understand the real idea behind them. I'm still new to vaping and all I've got is a Kanger Protank 2 (stock coils/wick) and iClear16 (stock coils/wick). I need to start doing some research on drippers, etc -- but not before pay check...i get trigger happy sometimes (if you haven't noticed)

Nicotine dramatically affects the taste of liquid, so much so that we very much consider it "flavoring" - not an afterthought. As an addendum to the above - nicotine, for most people, isn't pleasant. The taste of 24mg is liquid is not the first impression I want to make on a new vaper who doesn't yet appreciate the difference the amount of nicotine can have on a liquid. I fell for it on my very first liquid purchase, also... I ran through over 100 flavors in the B&M I purchased my bottle - promptly ordered 50ml in 24mg since I am a stereotypical American and more is always better - and I was ...... when the bottle I received tasted nothing like the sample I had tried. (Not only because of the nicotine, but because of steeping - but no one in the store bothered to explain either to me). I would almost prefer those 24mg vapers climb to the summit of northwest vaping, and subsequently look for a ticket to someplace more habitable. :)
 

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I received my first sample of Wakonda today and I'm really enjoying it. Very satisfying in an IBTanked carto tank atop an MVP. I'm still playing around with the wattage but it's looking like 7.5 watts is about the sweet spot for me. I hope the coffee flavor doesn't weaken too much over time. It's pretty much spot on straight from the mailbox. Good stuff!

I am not sure the coffee weakens, but the custard and tobacco elements are definitely enriched to the degree that they meld and subsequently "surround" the coffee flavor.
 

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Nicotine affecting flavor...man, I'm learning a lot. It will be interesting to see what your juices taste like between mg's as I lower my dosage over time. I notice how much they're morphing every day, particularly the Virus, but I'm not sure how much of that is my sense of taste and smell recovering also. Because for instance - I'm smelling pine trees and flowers stronger than in years, stronger every day.

It's all wonderful and I'm thankful for vaping, and for your juices and for the time you take to share your knowledge with other people.
 
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