Hmmmm .. Maybe not so safe?

[emus]

I had to look at ALA mission again just for the shock factor. I think their actual mission is 180 degrees separated from their stated mission:

"Our Mission: To save lives by improving lung health and preventing lung disease."

Our Mission and Goals - American Lung Association

 

[neutrontech]

Let's not continue to fool ourselves.

Who's fooling themselves. Maybe you should have a look around the forum and you will see countess threads and posts where it has been clearly stated that this is an unknown, and that it's likely not completely safe.

You will also see it mentioned countless times that we understand vaping is reduced harm. Keep looking and you will see many many others have questioned the safety, and the response is always the same: while vaping may have risks, it is almost certainly better than analogs so most everyone accepts the risk and chooses vaping. There is no reason to expect that your thread will illicit any different response than the hundreds before you.

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[Rt1Rebel]

I have concern not for the effluent but for the nicotine intake. As much as I love my cig free life, I feel like I'm ingesting twice the nicotine that I would with cigs for the simple reason I can vape whenever and where ever I want, and I do. That said, I don't feel that nicotine is any more dangerous than the similar alkaloid caffeine, but who knows?

 

[VapoKev]

For what it's worth, I have an oncologist friend who vapes.

 

[neutrontech]

I have concern not for the effluent but for the nicotine intake. As much as I love my cig free life, I feel like I'm ingesting twice the nicotine that I would with cigs for the simple reason I can vape whenever and where ever I want, and I do. That said, I don't feel that nicotine is any more dangerous than the similar alkaloid caffeine, but who knows?

While chain vaping gives us a lot of nic, we are taking in less. We don't absorb nic as well from vapor. The droplets are much bigger than smoke particles, so much less is actually absorbed.

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[frankshim]

Who's fooling themselves. Maybe you should have a look around the forum and you will see countess threads and posts where it has been clearly stated that this is an unknown, and that it's likely not completely safe.

You will also see it mentioned countless times that we understand vaping is reduced harm. Keep looking and you will see many many others have questioned the safety, and the response is always the same: while vaping may have risks, it is almost certainly better than analogs so most everyone accepts the risk and chooses vaping. There is no reason to expect that your thread will illicit any different response than the hundreds before you.

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Not expecting any "different" responses, just stating an opinion.

 

[sneakerpimp]

^ stick around, you might learn something.

 

[RosaJ]

I have concern not for the effluent but for the nicotine intake. As much as I love my cig free life, I feel like I'm ingesting twice the nicotine that I would with cigs for the simple reason I can vape whenever and where ever I want, and I do. That said, I don't feel that nicotine is any more dangerous than the similar alkaloid caffeine, but who knows?

Please check out the research done by Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos on this very topic. The results are that the amount of nicotine absorbed through vapor is minimal and that exhaled nicotine is infinitesimal. I'm not singling you out Rebel, I'm encouraging everyone to read the doctor's research and to do a search on lung checkups in this forum.

CASAA has a lot of information on this and many other subjects.

 

[emus]

ALA slams smokeless tobacco. How does this stance apply to their mission:

"Our Mission: To save lives by improving lung health and preventing lung disease."

You can bet the farm chewing tobacco is less harmful to the lungs.

http://www.lung.org/stop-smoking/to...nd-reports/new-smokeless-tobacco-products.pdf

 

[frankshim]

Who's fooling themselves.
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Really? Come on now.

 

[frankshim]

^ stick around, you might learn something.

Oh, I'm sure.

 

[Purplepeeps]

My poor brother started vaping three years ago and was using juice from China the whole time. Even with that, he's fine.
Now he thinks I'm his personal juice dealer.



Sorry but I have to ask. After almost two years of vaping, you're just now concerned about the health risks? If you're really bothered maybe you should just stop?

 

[olderthandirt]

I don't think I'm foolin' meself.

I have done my reading. Combine that with a touch of common sense and just as most have replied, vaping is a damn sight better than smoking.

Fooling ourselves, nope.
Along with an honest effort at due diligence I also strive to not make statements that are broad brushstroke in nature. hint-hint (-:

 

[Jeffk123]

This thread is kinda iffy to me I kinda feel like there is a troll in the dungeon here. Anyways if vaping kills me so be it its my life choice I should be able to do what I want as long as it harms none. The creedo of my belief system if harm ye none do as ye will. I am in love with nic and the act of smoking so vaping is what pulled me out of the dark embrace of tobacco. I have not had a single lung infenction since I quit so thats good news to me.

 

[2naphish]

I had been a smoker for years. I gave cigarettes up on Nov 28, 2012, the day my E-Cig starter kit arrived in the mail. I love to Vape... I especially enjoy being able to vape at work. Back when I started, there was a common belief that vaping was safe, at least that was what I had heard and read. Is it? I can't imagine that inhaling vaporized propylene glycol or vegetable glycerin is good for my lungs... Don't get me wrong, I am vaping with the understanding that the behavior can or could be VERY hazardous to my health. Ultimately, there simply is no research as of yet to determine the impact of vaping on health. Let's not continue to fool ourselves.

vaping is a reduced harm alternative. this is a fact......i could tell you a long story of the benifits to me , but that is my personal experience.... vaping saved my life.. and thats a fact. for how long... that remains to be seen. my quality of life is 1000% improved ....YMMV

 

[emus]

Oh, I'm sure.

You can quit vaping, breath clean mountain air and worry about life's other dangers.
I'll not be offended.

 

[Derek Derailled]

The safety of propylene glycol (PG) when inhaled through an electronic cigarette. Studies on the effect of the inhalation of propylene glycol through a personal vaporizer.

The safety of vegetable glycerin (VG) when inhaled through an electronic cigarette (e-cigarette). Studies on the effect of the inhalation of vegetable glycerin through a personal vaporizer.

Both of those links contain the names of the doctors who did their studies, and what studies they have done.

Here are the POSSIBLE negatives to e-cig smoking. There aren't enough long-term studies to accurately
show what may or may not happen from years of prolonged exposure to e-cig smoking, but doctors are
pretty dead set on the side effects of e-cig's being dramatically less than those of cigarette smoking.

With all that being said, here is a list of known health issues and risks with e-cigarette smoking.

People allergic to Glycerine or glycerol may have allergic reactions to the e-liquid
Oral ingestion of large quantities of the e-liquid that contains nicotine may cause poisoning
Dry mouth & throat, sores in mouth & throat, and dried out faces
Sore muscles (from the increased amount of lactic acid from glycerol e-liquid)
Sore and chafed tounge
Headaches
Persons using an electronic cigarette will not be stopping their addiction to nicotine
- See more at: Health Risks of e-smoking, quitting tobacco e-cigarette risks.

 

[neutrontech]

Really? Come on now.

Yes really. You can state your opinion just fine. Your final line telling us we are fooling ourselves was antagonistic. I interpreted it as an attempt to provoke an argument. There are way too many threads just like this from people who just joined.

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[mrkrinkle55]

I like to use this analogy: Smoking is like driving down the interstate at 90 miles an hour without a seat belt. It's dangerous, and will likely get you killed if you continue to do it (police and the law aside). Vaping is like driving down the interstate at 80 miles an hour with your seat belt on. Yea, you still run the risk of death, but it's reduced significantly.

As far as the PG/VG argument goes, I am a firm believer in using common sense. VG is in...well...everything. You consume it daily. PG, on the other hand, is the liquid used to deliver medication to asthmatics via inhalers and nebulizers. And, for what it's worth, it's also the primary ingredient in personal lubricant...so...yea.

 

[Purplepeeps]

You can quit vaping, breath clean mountain air and worry about life's other dangers.
I'll not be offended.

Ok, this is even more PRICELESS! lmao