Honest question - unregulated mods

[Rule62]

But first a person needs to gain that experience. Staying safe while learning is what we should keep in mind.

I dunno. It just seems to me that so many new vapers are jumping into the deep end of the pool too quickly, these days. 'I just wanna blow huge clouds like my bro' has become all too common. I hate to sound like an old curmudgeon (well, maybe I don't hate it), but it seems like those of us who have been around a while, came along more slowly. There's no 'safe' shortcut to this stuff.

 

[snork]

Now that depends totally on the vaper using it doesn't it?

Yes it does!

 

[tj99959]

I dunno. It just seems to me that so many new vapers are jumping into the deep end of the pool too quickly, these days. 'I just wanna blow huge clouds like my bro' has become all too common. I hate to sound like an old curmudgeon (well, maybe I don't hate it), but it seems like those of us who have been around a while, came along more slowly. There's no 'safe' shortcut to this stuff.

^^ what he said !

 

[ReigntheGamer]

Mechs vs Regulated (not in all cases) is similar to Work on your car vs Take it to a mechanic. Just my .

There are those who just want something to work and there's nothing wrong with that. But there will always be those who want to know why it works and how can I make it work better?

 

[tj99959]

Mechs vs Regulated (not in all cases) is similar to Work on your car vs Take it to a mechanic. Just my .

There are those who just want something to work and there's nothing wrong with that. But there will always be those who want to know why it works and how can I make it work better?

Except they're exactly the ones that would put a sub tank on a hybrid, and there is something wrong with that.
Now it's not necessary to be the Einstein of vaping, but it's wise to earn a set of wings before trying to fly.

 

[AndriaD]

But first a person needs to gain that experience. Staying safe while learning is what we should keep in mind.

I agree with this. When I started vaping, I knew NOTHING about battery safety, ohm's law, ANY of it. Thankfully, I first used an eRoll -- which is how I learned to hate unregulated vaping -- then an iTaste vv3. When I started getting interested in coil building, a few months later, I started learning about resistance, making sure a coil is safe; when I got a Sigelei Zmax, I started learning about battery safety -- but since it's a regulated mod, I still had a margin of safety. It wasn't until I had been a) building coils, and b) using external batteries, for a few months each, that I even *considered* getting a mech -- because I finally knew enough to not be a hazard to myself and my abode and those in it. Now I can use either kind of mod with a reasonable amount of safety. But I still won't use a hybrid mod -- to me, those just seem like ASKING FOR IT -- "burn my house down, please!" There are far too many safer options to even consider it -- though granted, those Valkyries are pretty enough that I might consider it, if they had the SLIGHTEST bit of well, but they don't, so I ain't going there.

I agree that even regulated mods can have their safety issues -- iStick50, anyone? I have a couple of iStick30s that haven't given me the slightest problem... but I trust my CoolFire IV's a great deal more... they have VENT HOLES! Plus just the fact that they're made by Innokin would seem to indicate a much higher standard of quality. I still use my iStick30s... but if I ever see the SLIGHTEST untoward behavior from them... into the bin they go.

Andria

 

[ReigntheGamer]

Except they're exactly the ones that would put a sub tank on a hybrid, and there is something wrong with that.

That's another story and it will involve my personal beliefs about mechs and what SHOULD go on them.

 

[Boden]

That's another story and it will involve my personal beliefs about mechs and what SHOULD go on them.

I don't know so much about personal beliefs but a noob is the type to put a premade coil in a tank with a shorted positive lead, keep pressing the button wondering "Why isn't this working... Why is this tube/box getting so hot.."

 

[HauntedMyst]

For me, when I walk down the street with a mech mod, I feel......manly. It's like a testosterone infusion. Like a burst of gamma radiation. Much the same way a Harley makes the uneducated feel substantial or a sports car makes an aging guy going through a midlife crisis feel young and virile again. Sure, he needs the little blue pill to raise the flag up the pole and his thinning hair give him away but he feels sexy owning that status symbol, knowing he is better than other people.

It makes me happy and gives me happy feet.

HauntedMyst walks warily down the street
With the brim pulled way down low.
Ain't no sound but the sound of his feet,
Machine guns ready to go...

Yeah. That's it. You got the beat in your head now.

Yeah.









Oh wait. I just use a mech mod because I don't need see the need for a regulated device. I'm not opposed to owning one but I don't need to spend the cash. Been running mech mods for 2 and 1/2 years, don't sub-ohm and never had a battery vent. If one ever does, if I hear the sizzle before it blows up in my pants pocket, I'll be able to throw it like a frag grenade, maybe take out some ANTS or liberals. That's much more satisfying than just seeing "error" on a dinky led screen.

 

[crystalluv545]

For me, when I walk down the street with a mech mod, I feel......manly. It's like a testosterone infusion. Like a burst of gamma radiation. Much the same way a Harley makes the uneducated feel substantial or a sports car makes an aging guy going through a midlife crisis feel young and virile again. Sure, he needs the little blue pill to raise the flag up the pole and his thinning hair give him away but he feels sexy owning that status symbol, knowing he is better than other people.

It makes me happy and gives me happy feet.

HauntedMyst walks warily down the street
With the brim pulled way down low.
Ain't no sound but the sound of his feet,
Machine guns ready to go...

Yeah. That's it. You got the beat in your head now.

Yeah.









Oh wait. I just use a mech mod because I don't need see the need for a regulated device. I'm not opposed to owning one but I don't need to spend the cash. Been running mech mods for 2 and 1/2 years, don't sub-ohm and never had a battery vent. If one ever does, if I hear the sizzle before it blows up in my pants pocket, I'll be able to throw it like a frag grenade, maybe take out some ANTS or liberals. That's much more satisfying than just seeing "error" on a dinky led screen.

Lol that's Kewl.. I feel that way when I'm standing on the subway platform vaping(lightly) and the Tourist or the NYC transit cops walk by. (I am not disrespectful and will stand in my own space a distance away from others)..
Too me its funny... The tourist look at me then at the cops-then back at me.... I just shrug, SMH, and smile . [emoji4] [emoji12] [emoji4]

For me, when I walk down the street with a mech mod, I feel......manly. It's like a testosterone infusion. Like a burst of gamma radiation. Much the same way a Harley makes the uneducated feel substantial or a sports car makes an aging guy going through a midlife crisis feel young and virile again. Sure, he needs the little blue pill to raise the flag up the pole and his thinning hair give him away but he feels sexy owning that status symbol, knowing he is better than other people.

It makes me happy and gives me happy feet.

HauntedMyst walks warily down the street
With the brim pulled way down low.
Ain't no sound but the sound of his feet,
Machine guns ready to go...

Yeah. That's it. You got the beat in your head now.

Yeah.









Oh wait. I just use a mech mod because I don't need see the need for a regulated device. I'm not opposed to owning one but I don't need to spend the cash. Been running mech mods for 2 and 1/2 years, don't sub-ohm and never had a battery vent. If one ever does, if I hear the sizzle before it blows up in my pants pocket, I'll be able to throw it like a frag grenade, maybe take out some ANTS or liberals. That's much more satisfying than just seeing "error" on a dinky led screen.

Crystal using Galaxy4s in NYC

 

[crystalluv545]

I agree with this. When I started vaping, I knew NOTHING about battery safety, ohm's law, ANY of it. Thankfully, I first used an eRoll -- which is how I learned to hate unregulated vaping -- then an iTaste vv3. When I started getting interested in coil building, a few months later, I started learning about resistance, making sure a coil is safe; when I got a Sigelei Zmax, I started learning about battery safety -- but since it's a regulated mod, I still had a margin of safety. It wasn't until I had been a) building coils, and b) using external batteries, for a few months each, that I even *considered* getting a mech -- because I finally knew enough to not be a hazard to myself and my abode and those in it. Now I can use either kind of mod with a reasonable amount of safety. But I still won't use a hybrid mod -- to me, those just seem like ASKING FOR IT -- "burn my house down, please!" There are far too many safer options to even consider it -- though granted, those Valkyries are pretty enough that I might consider it, if they had the SLIGHTEST bit of well, but they don't, so I ain't going there.

I agree that even regulated mods can have their safety issues -- iStick50, anyone? I have a couple of iStick30s that haven't given me the slightest problem... but I trust my CoolFire IV's a great deal more... they have VENT HOLES! Plus just the fact that they're made by Innokin would seem to indicate a much higher standard of quality. I still use my iStick30s... but if I ever see the SLIGHTEST untoward behavior from them... into the bin they go.

Andria

I am still with my istick50..i have no issues at all with it,besides it being heavy adding to all the junk in my pocketbook.

Crystal using Galaxy4s in NYC

 

[Alien Traveler]

Mechs vs Regulated (not in all cases) is similar to Work on your car vs Take it to a mechanic. Just my .

For me it looks different.
mech mod:

It could be exciting hobby, but not for an average (normal?) vaper.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

For me it looks different.
mech mod:

It could be exciting hobby, but not for an average (normal?) vaper.

I agree, I only enjoy it because I am the kind of person who likes to go above and beyond on things I get interested in. Best example is when I wanted a PC for gaming, I could've easily bought something that works. But instead I took a few days to read up on building PC's and created my own, and it was a great experience. Not only did it work great and have all the features I wanted, but also I learned something in the process that I get to keep for life. Win, win.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Mechanical

Regulated

 

[ReigntheGamer]

Mechanical
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Regulated

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Yep I'm a mech guy cause if offered there's no way I am picking anything but the first example.

 

[Dextrose]

I am a mech guy personaly, i use and collect, you can get alot more mechs that are a functional work of art, and if something goes wrong there is allways a home depot near by.

 

[SAUD]

I can say that I prefer the mechanical mods , at home I lovely vape with two monsters

 

[edyle]

I'm fairly new to the world of advanced vaping, and I'm still trying to wrap my head around coils, batteries, all of that. I recently ordered the materials for building my own coils, and am reading everything in my quest to make sure I do it right and don't blow myself up.

It seems like (and I could be wrong) that the real danger of battery venting comes from unregulated, or mechanical mods (are they the same thing?).

If that is the case, what are the advantages of these mods over regulated ones? I have no intention of going there anytime soon, but I am curious.

The typical mechanical mod has a topcap with adjustable centerpin. This compensates for the problems of the 510 thread interface.

I use regulated mechanical mods.

 

[Chip H.]

As someone relatively new to the scene, I don't quite understand the mech love for one objective reason: With a VV/VW mode I can dial in the precise power where a particular juice works best and/or suits my mood. Even vaping the same juice, my wattage goes up in the middle of the day where I enjoy things warmer, and goes down again later in the night where I want things cooler. With a mech mod, I'd be at one speed all the time and if I wanted to change things I'd have to adjust my build and/or atomizer. Just doesn't make sense to me when you don't have to limit yourself like that.

As to the relative safety issues, while I appreciate that many mech lover's points are generally correct in the abstract, they are from the p.o.v. of being old school and, by necessity, well versed in the underlying technical issues. There is no doubt in my mind that a properly built mechanical mod with a properly designed and matched safety fuse running properly matched hardware is going to be as safe as any regulated mod including set up, but that's a lot of "properly"s

As for the "I'd rather put my safety in my hands and knowledge over some Chinese chip" mantra I've read so many times, that's just telling yourself something because it feels good to shore up your particular preferences. Considering how outnumbered mechanical mods are by regulated at this point (and how few mechanical mods contain much in the way of safety features), it's nothing but the intrinsically fallible nature of human brains when dealing with probability to point to the handful of regulated failures out there and say, "See, knew it!"

 

[snork]

As someone relatively new to the scene, I don't quite understand the mech love for one objective reason: With a VV/VW mode I can dial in the precise power where a particular juice works best and/or suits my mood. Even vaping the same juice, my wattage goes up in the middle of the day where I enjoy things warmer, and goes down again later in the night where I want things cooler. With a mech mod, I'd be at one speed all the time and if I wanted to change things I'd have to adjust my build and/or atomizer. Just doesn't make sense to me when you don't have to limit yourself like that.

As to the relative safety issues, while I appreciate that many mech lovers points are generally correct in the abstract, they are from the p.o.v. of being old school and, by necessity, well versed in the underlying technical issues. There is no doubt in my mind that a properly built mechanical mod with a properly designed and matched safety fuse running properly matched hardware is going to be as safe as any regulated mod including set up, but that's a lot of "properly"s

As for the "I'd rather put my safety in my hands and knowledge over some Chinese chip" mantra I've read so many times, that's just telling yourself something because it feels good to shore up your particular preferences. Considering how outnumbered mechanical mods are by regulated at this point (and how few mechanical mods contain much in the way of safety features), it's nothing but the intrinsically fallible nature of human brains when dealing with probability to point to the handful of regulated failures out there and say, "See, knew it!"

What makes you think mechs are outnumbered?