Honest question - unregulated mods

[Chip H.]

What makes you think mechs are outnumbered?

I don't have any hard data, but based on number of threads, number of *different* posters, what shops carry, etc., it doesn't take anything more than common sense to infer regulated are more common.

 

[Alien Traveler]

What makes you think mechs are outnumbered?

Because they are.

 

[Bad Ninja]

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Because they are.

Available? For sure. Especially if you are counting Egos.

But then 90% vapers can't safely use a mech and can't build a coil.

In the hands of vapers actually qualified to use a mechanical safely, there are more mechanicals than regulated.

 

[Alien Traveler]

Available? For sure. Especially if you are counting Egos.

But then 90% vapers can't safely use a mech and can't build a coil.

In the hands of vapers actually qualified to use a mechanical safely, there are more mechanicals than regulated.

But of course in the hands of those who prefer mechanicals mechanicals may outnumber regulated. But it is completely different story.

EDIT: I am 100% "qualified", but I do not have a mechanical. So, it looks like you are wrong in your assumption anyway. Anybody who is building coils is qualified.

 

[AndriaD]

With a mech mod, I'd be at one speed all the time and if I wanted to change things I'd have to adjust my build and/or atomizer. Just doesn't make sense to me when you don't have to limit yourself like that.

This is another HUGE reason I really don't like vaping with mechs -- even with a Kick in it, it's still a much bigger hassle to take off the mod's cap and adjust the thing with a tiny screwdriver, then just pushing some buttons -- I *do* vary my power with some frequency, so being stuck with a single build is for the birds, and so is having to make adjustments with a tiny screwdriver!

But, if the vapocalypse happens... I'm ready. Bite me, FDA.

Andria

 

[Bad Ninja]

But of course in the hands of those who prefer mechanicals mechanicals may outnumber regulated. But it is completely different story.

EDIT: I am 100% "qualified", but I do not have a mechanical. So, it looks like you are wrong in your assumption anyway. Anybody who is building coils is qualified.

I didn't say "preferred", I said qualified.

You are obviously not representing the majority of qualified vapers.

I have over 80 mechanicals and 3 working regulated mods. Kinda skews the curve now doesn't it?

 

[crunchie812]

I don't have any hard data, but based on number of threads, number of *different* posters, what shops carry, etc., it doesn't take anything more than common sense to infer regulated are more common.

Shops want to sell the high end items. They don't cater to people who buy $15-$25 dollar mod clones and $10 drippers from FT and 18650s from RTDVapor. Regulated mods and plug'n'play tanks generate a lot of posts because they seem to have more things to go wrong and are rightly favored by the less experienced. Mech users are generally more experienced and able to sort things out on their own. I suppose any "hard data" would be pretty skewed. I personally prefer mechs and RDA's as they are more convenient and hassle free for me and I can more easily and more economically get the vape I prefer. Same reason I DIY my juice. What works for me generally doesn't work for everybody.

I have a co-worker, he don't know jack, he don't wanna know jack, he just wants to blow clouds. Thank God there are regulated mods.

 

[Alien Traveler]

But of course in the hands of those who prefer mechanicals mechanicals may outnumber regulated. But it is completely different story.

I didn't say "preferred", I said qualified.

You are obviously not representing the majority of qualified vapers.

I have over 80 mechanicals and 3 working regulated mods. Kinda skews the curve now doesn't it?

Only by 1 (one person). Not big difference for a curve.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Only by 1 (one person). Not big difference for a curve.

Oh, I doubt I'm alone in owning multiples.

 

[snork]

I don't have any hard data, but based on number of threads, number of *different* posters, what shops carry, etc., it doesn't take anything more than common sense to infer regulated are more common.

The only thing that can be inferred over the longer term that I've been vaping is that vapers are fickle.

 

[bluecat]

Available? For sure. Especially if you are counting Egos.

But then 90% vapers can't safely use a mech and can't build a coil.

In the hands of vapers actually qualified to use a mechanical safely, there are more mechanicals than regulated.

Let's be real though. 99% of the vapers can safely build a coil. Whether they want to or not is another story. It isn't hard to build one. Now if you are going for a .0000000000000001 ohm coil.. you may have something. Building a single standard resistance coil is not hard. I can do it without my glasses and seeing the wire as a blur. I can put my "cheaters" on and see it fine.

You got me on safely using a mech... although I could counter that 90% of people in the world can't safely use a butcher knife. One man's risk is another man;s joyride.

 

[Alien Traveler]

Mechanical:

Regulated:

 

[bluecat]

Mechanical:

Regulated:

 

[Bad Ninja]

Mechanical

Regulated

 

[HauntedMyst]

Mechanical:

Regulated:

 

[SAUD]

Mechanical

Regulated

 

[Stubby]

Off the top of my head, it seems to me that there have been more reports of regulated mods failing "catastrophically" than unregulated. Like iSticks auto-firing unattended with no atomizer attached and the thing flaming out, that sort of thing. It doesn't make sense to me to make a safety distinction between mechs and regulated.

It is very misleading to claim there are more catastrophic failures with regulated (as if anyone has actual numbers in front of them) over unregulated, and then pushing out one of the known bad apples as proof that regulated are more risky then unregulated. It is bogus logic to an extreme. Yes, there are some poorly made regulated devices, but that is largely a function of consumers demanding lower price points and unscrupulous manufactures willing to cut corners. Buy from a known reputable manufacture, and yes pay a bit more, and those issues disappear. Buy from one of the top tier manufactures who actually take safety seriously (ProVape or Evolv) and any comparisons of safety become laughable.

Comparing apples to apples, a well made regulated device is far safer then any unregulated device out there could ever be, no matter how well designed. It should be noted that most unregulated devices are not well designed. The people who actually believe that mechs are safer then regulated, are very likely the very people who shouldn't be using them as they have essentially lost touch with reality.

The problem is not that people use mechs. The problem is that it takes specialized knowledge and constant vigilance to use them with any degree of safety. They are not a common consumer good, yet are being sold as nothing more then a common consumer good. It is entirely predictable that people get in trouble.

Of course the romanticizing of mechs done by many on this thread is also part of the problem. Just take a gander at the mech porn on this thread.

 

[Bad Ninja]

It is very misleading to claim there are more catastrophic failures with regulated (as if anyone has actual numbers in front of them) over unregulated, and then pushing out one of the known bad apples as proof that regulated are more risky then unregulated. It is bogus logic to an extreme. Yes, there are some poorly made regulated devices, but that is largely a function of consumers demanding lower price points and unscrupulous manufactures willing to cut corners. Buy from a known reputable manufacture, and yes pay a bit more, and those issues disappear. Buy from one of the top tier manufactures who actually take safety seriously (ProVape or Evolv) and any comparisons of safety become laughable.

Comparing apples to apples, a well made regulated device is far safer then any unregulated device out there could ever be, no matter how well designed. It should be noted that most unregulated devices are not well designed. The people who actually believe that mechs are safer then regulated, are very likely the very people who shouldn't be using them as they have essentially lost touch with reality.

The problem is not that people use mechs. The problem is that it takes specialized knowledge and constant vigilance to use them with any degree of safety. They are not a common consumer good, yet are being sold as nothing more then a common consumer good. It is entirely predictable that people get in trouble.

Of course the romanticizing of mechs done by many on this thread is also part of the problem. Just take a gander at the mech porn on this thread.

It's a well known fact that a hard drive will fail before a wrench.

Any electronic device will eventually fail.


I think both are relatively safe if used correctly.

 

[HauntedMyst]

The problem is not that people use mechs. The problem is that it takes specialized knowledge and constant vigilance to use them with any degree of safety. They are not a common consumer good, yet are being sold as nothing more then a common consumer good. It is entirely predictable that people get in trouble.

That sums it up in a nutshell.

Of course the romanticizing of mechs done by many on this thread is also part of the problem. Just take a gander at the mech porn on this thread.

It's not part of the problem, it's part of the fun!

 

[sparkky1]

You guy's realize your debating on how awesome a copper tube (trophies) can be or not be right ?

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