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Building on the idea of this linked thread, I have some questions. You don't have to read the following thread since I'll cover what it's about, but it's short.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...go-usb-pass-through-mod-will-work-right.html?&

What about powering a Passthrough with a 12,000mAH portable USB Power Supply Unit (PSU) such as this one for $8?
White 12000mAh 2 USB Portable Power Bank Battery for iPhone4 5 Samsung HTC | eBay

There are all kinds like smaller 28000mAh tubes:
mah usb power -car | eBay

First question is: is this safe? This thread here asks about using the same sort of portable USB PSU with a Passthrough:
10000 mah 5v Box Mod Anyone?
They basically thought it wouldn't work because the USB PSU in that thread notes: ""Please use the battery without protection. because this power box has Circuit built-in protection. otherwise would burn the power box."" The thread doesn't conclude though. No-one tried it.

I have almost no idea how electronics work. I think all PTs have protection for the internal battery PLUS short circuit protection (like if you build a short), and not sure if those are the same. The eBay USB PSUs don't say anything about protection or not, but I can find out. If all PTs have protection and wouldn't work with the USB PSU, would something like this battery-less VV PT Ego work? It has protection for short coils, but is battery-less:
Variable voltage 510/eGo USB passthrough


How risky is it if it's not compatable but still works? I'd think that many people are connecting already-protected devices to the USB PSU with no problem.

I'm hoping to get a 1200mah VV PT like this SLB eGo-V v2 MEGA 1200mah PassThrough eGo 3.0-6.0v OLED - STNLS [gv-SLBeGo-VMEGA-STAINLESS] - $35.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more
and run it to a wall/car USB, and connecting it to a portable USB PSU in my pocket if needed. Even if I never use up the 1300mahs, keeping it on the PSU will prolong the life span of the PT. Some of the portable USB PSUs have short coupling adapters instead of a USB cord so I can just stick the Passthrough right on the battery like a box/tube mod and not worry about a USB cord distraction/looking a bit strange. If you know what you're doing, you can probably cut away the wire from the battery-less VV PT eGO and splice it to the coupling to make everything more compact.

If it won't work or is highly dangerous, then I'm going to try and search-out an unprotected version and seeing if I should drill a small hole in the case to let possible battery gasses escape if it doesn't already have that.

Part B question:
The mini battery-less eGO VV PT needs to be powered by a 2amp (2000mAh) output device, which some portable USB PSUs have.

I found mixed answers about what to use to power a Passthrough that HAS a battery like a 1200mah, 650mah, 900mah, etc. What I gather is that 1amp is best, but what if I conect it to a 2amp car/wall adapter? Some say they use only .8 amp with no problem.

I read all types of different answers but won't risk it and won't plug into a computer even if it's a PT that has a battery and should work because I think those only needs 1Amp which most computer USBs provide (I read after writing this that most are only .5amp). Should I just use always use a 2Amp even with a PT that has a battery in which I heard can draw more than 1Amp depending on the volts&ohm/Amp draw.
Taking the info from this OP, "To run a 1.5ohmdc at 5v (that's voltage standard on USB ports, which is why it runs at 5v) you need at least 3.33a of power", I guess I can't run Dual coil attys on a PT.
 
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Well all I can say is if it does work? Great.
If it doesn't? Oh well nice thought

But........don't we as vapors. With all our mods, tanks, juice bottles, attys, cartos, drip shields and all the other goodies that make us who we are and keep us happy, Really need "another" piece of equipment on top of everything else. With all the available USB ports surrounding us in our everyday environment. Really, really need another?
Maybe just start carrying a small generator to plug my battery charger into as well? Or maybe like Gilligan and have the professor rig me a bike that will power my device as long as I have the strength to peddle it? ....no I think ill just stick with what I got for now.
Keep thinking though.
 
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I really don't have any issues with my 18650's working all day long and into the next day and they are just 2600 mah. Why would I want to deal with a cord and/or some bulky battery in my pocket?

It might give some girls the wrong idea...it could give some the right idea for the wrong reason.
 

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The repliers thus far don't like the idea.
Please don't flood the thread bashing the idea anymore since I'm really hoping someone can answer the questions and isn't turned away by a long, bashed thread.

A single 18650 doesn't last some people a full day, especially low/no nicotine vapers who vape a lot. It's probably smaller and about $100 cheaper than a double 18650/26500 MOD or carrying a spare 18650/26500. You don't need the wire coming out of your pocket unless using a mini battery-less ego PT. You can just have it charging with the coupling when not vaping. If it works.
 

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The repliers thus far don't like the idea.
Please don't flood the thread bashing the idea anymore since I'm really hoping someone can answer the questions and isn't turned away by a long, bashed thread.

A single 18650 doesn't last some people a full day, especially low/no nicotine vapers who vape a lot. It's probably smaller and about $100 cheaper than a double 18650/26500 MOD or carrying a spare 18650/26500. You don't need the wire coming out of your pocket unless using a mini battery-less ego PT. You can just have it charging with the coupling when not vaping. If it works.
Sorry, but by reading this entire thread I have just wasted 10 minutes of my life that I will never get back.

Thread of the year? Hardly.
 

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This device will work safely with any 5 v power supply that that has 2,000 ma (2 A) capacity as per the description where it says:

'This USB passthrough is best powered by our 2 Amp AC to USB wall adapter or our car cigarette lighter to USB adapter.'

All USB power supplies output 5 volts +-0.25 which is the USB standard. It doesn't matter if the power supply is a battery or plugged into a wall socket, USB is USB. Some USB power supplies have less current capacity than 2 A. If you draw more from the power supply than it is rated for it will sooner or later trip its fuse/breaker or burn out.

Any vaping safety issues are addressed in the PV.

And that's the extent of my knowledge of electronics :(

HTH.
 
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"Please don't flood the thread bashing the idea anymore since I'm really hoping someone can answer the questions and isn't turned away by a long, bashed thread."

The OP seems to have met the "long" criteria and it would appear that the "bashed" part is on the cusp of being fulfilled. It is thought-provoking inquiry though
 

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All USB power supplies output 5 volts +-0.25 which is the USB standard. It doesn't matter if the power supply is a battery or plugged into a wall socket, USB is USB. Some USB power supplies have less current capacity than 2 A. If you draw more from the power supply than it is rated for it will sooner or later trip its fuse/breaker or burn out.

So, simply put, a USB that outputs 2amps would be better to use with a passthrough that only needs a 1Amp output (the PTs that have a battery only 'need' 1Amp, but the mini PT with no battery needs 2Amps).
However, this again: "To run a 1.5ohmdc at 5v...you need at least 3.33a of power", I guess I can't run Dual coil attys on a PT.
The person I quoted said they don't think a USB that outputs as much as 3.3Amps exists.

So to answer the frequently-asked question of 'which USB wall/car adapter do I need', the answer is to get the highest Amp/Mah output rating you can find and that will work with all passthroughs wheather they have a battery or are battery-les, but just don't run dual coil attys or pull too manny watts from it or it will, what? just short out and not fire and be safe? explode? Doing this is why it's unsafe to vape through a computer USB because power is drawn away from the motherboard etc which can fry it?
 
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I just recieved a 20,000mAh power pack from ebay...it is charging now. When it is charged I plan on trying it with a passthrough. It does have a 2.1 amp plug for output.

I'd wait untill someone hopefully answers if it's safe or not. What did you pay for it, $3 with shipping? (no sarcasm)
 
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