True but I believe it's the water we drink !!
and the plastic we eat!!
hahaha.....a side note, my bet is that prenatal vitamins is what is causing most of the childhood obesity.
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and the plastic we eat!!
hahaha.....a side note, my bet is that prenatal vitamins is what is causing most of the childhood obesity.
Hi ev1
Happy birthday vicsan !
Somebody just told me that Zen was no longer taking order for overseas customers refering to a post on VW that i can't see coz i never succeeded registering there (still waiting for account validation since 3 month !)
As my provari is dying to get rid of #%*$@ cartos and one week lifetime attys i'd really appreciate if someone here was kind enough to confirm that such a post actually exist as i find strange that i never read that here.
Wish you all Zenfidels a good evening !
Happy birthday vicsan !
Somebody just told me that Zen was no longer taking order for overseas customers refering to a post on VW that i can't see coz i never succeeded registering there (still waiting for account validation since 3 month !)
As my provari is dying to get rid of #%*$@ cartos and one week lifetime attys i'd really appreciate if someone here was kind enough to confirm that such a post actually exist as i find strange that i never read that here.
Wish you all Zenfidels a good evening !
Happy Birthday Vixen (Vicsan LOL HAD to do that though hee hee!) hope you have a great one!
You forgot me? 
J/K.....Hi JCB1!
J/K.....Hi JCB1!
Ditto
How's it going Tiff and all my other peeps? Viscan? Emonty? Ash? MissEmma? Mr. P? OB? And EVERYONE else??
Hi gnot. Yes, I read that on VW a day or two ago. Zen posted that as of that moment, he would only be selling to US, Mexico, and Canada, but that he was looking for agents to represent him in other areas of the world and if he was successful in finding them, they would be handling all the overseas sales.
However, I have not seen that posted on ECF.
Hi Uma, don't give up. If you need a fixed switch and tank, Please don't hesitate to pm me. I have extra that I can send you until Mike get everything fix. I know its frustrated. Pm your address and I'll drop it in the mail for you.
ok I did not want this part in with my happy birthday posting cuz those are not meant to be shared with other things (though I may have at some point inadvertently done it !)
I read the obs long posting and I would quote it here but its still 92 here and I am close to nuclear reactor meltdown lately.........
I just have to say ....as happy as I always am to see new people score something I think some of the whining (yeah i should have at least quoted that part but....hot...lazy....brain melt!) might come from seeing some people who already have several devices say "wow i really need 3 or 4 zatty pros though" and knowing that our zenless butts are in the same line with people who yes want one because they indeed have one and know the goodness. For a LONG time I did say no to the lists I even at a meet (yes i know I always avoided saying I was from Rochester and know him) have tried Fistys mini and Pharms and even Zens own zatty! I even told Mike I would be happy just for him to build me a mini red rocket (do not ask YES I know I am an idiot now). Point sort of being I know him and probably could just beg until I was thrown out of the lodge..... that isnt me though. I can though from this standpoint of having 2 or 3 more months wait to go understand some of the fellow frustration with people who are yet as of now Zenless. People with them say "It is so worth the wait hang in there" and yes having used a few I do indeed get it it IS and WILL be......but from the Zenless:
The wait is long from our corner (look at midnight madness for instance LOL) (and some of them have yet to even TRY one as I have) and we (I use the collective though I have tried even if failed to be REALLY patient) watch people post all the cool pics and talk about frustration over wraps and coils and have little or nothing to add to that other than to say : someday I hope.
I am thrilled to see new people get a device do not think I am not and would if i could I would have picked something other than the BAM truth be told I got the BAM BECAUSE there were no more lists and this was the closest i could get to "immediate gratification" (yeah yeah I know it wasnt even close LOL) silly I suppose because i knew the wait would be long ......
I am posting this not to whine and please do NOT PM ME offering me a slick deal on a Zenesis at just double the price cuz that is not going to happen and I did not post this for any other reason than this...........I just wanted to share why some might be frustrated, I know some with multiple devices have been here since the start and I get that. I just want you to know for no other reason than being a doubter I am zenless as are others and you guys are awesome to hang with but some days it is "two seconds from whine time" and I have actually walked away sometimes LOL
Hopefully people understand what I am saying here and do not take it the wrong way I just figured i would share the "other" point of view since I too have been here since the beginning!
I read the obs long posting and I would quote it here but its still 92 here and I am close to nuclear reactor meltdown lately.........
I just have to say ....as happy as I always am to see new people score something I think some of the whining (yeah i should have at least quoted that part but....hot...lazy....brain melt!) might come from seeing some people who already have several devices say "wow i really need 3 or 4 zatty pros though" and knowing that our zenless butts are in the same line with people who yes want one because they indeed have one and know the goodness. For a LONG time I did say no to the lists I even at a meet (yes i know I always avoided saying I was from Rochester and know him) have tried Fistys mini and Pharms and even Zens own zatty! I even told Mike I would be happy just for him to build me a mini red rocket (do not ask YES I know I am an idiot now). Point sort of being I know him and probably could just beg until I was thrown out of the lodge..... that isnt me though. I can though from this standpoint of having 2 or 3 more months wait to go understand some of the fellow frustration with people who are yet as of now Zenless. People with them say "It is so worth the wait hang in there" and yes having used a few I do indeed get it it IS and WILL be......but from the Zenless:
The wait is long from our corner (look at midnight madness for instance LOL) (and some of them have yet to even TRY one as I have) and we (I use the collective though I have tried even if failed to be REALLY patient) watch people post all the cool pics and talk about frustration over wraps and coils and have little or nothing to add to that other than to say : someday I hope.
I am thrilled to see new people get a device do not think I am not and would if i could I would have picked something other than the BAM truth be told I got the BAM BECAUSE there were no more lists and this was the closest i could get to "immediate gratification" (yeah yeah I know it wasnt even close LOL) silly I suppose because i knew the wait would be long ......
I am posting this not to whine and please do NOT PM ME offering me a slick deal on a Zenesis at just double the price cuz that is not going to happen and I did not post this for any other reason than this...........I just wanted to share why some might be frustrated, I know some with multiple devices have been here since the start and I get that. I just want you to know for no other reason than being a doubter I am zenless as are others and you guys are awesome to hang with but some days it is "two seconds from whine time" and I have actually walked away sometimes LOL
Hopefully people understand what I am saying here and do not take it the wrong way I just figured i would share the "other" point of view since I too have been here since the beginning!
LilyBear, I can understand your point but I think the ones that ob is talking about are the ones who come on here and want one now. The ones who have come on in the last month and are complaining about having to wait so long to get anything.
Some of us have been on here since Dec-Jan and are now just getting the devices that we ordered 6 months ago, yes there have been a special edition or two that the few lucky ones have gotten but overall most of us have patiently waited 6 months.
The problems are the ones who want it now and don't want to wait.
In Uma's case I can understand, she has been around here forever and still isn't satisfied, believe me Uma I understand what you are going through. However, on the flipside that is one of the disadvantages of buying the first ever model, the bugs need to get worked out and we were the guinea pigs, it will all come together if you just hang in there. We are all here to help each other out.
As far as everyone else, please be patient. Zen is doing the very best he can and there have been a few setbacks but if you really want one and are patient you will get one.
Some of us have been on here since Dec-Jan and are now just getting the devices that we ordered 6 months ago, yes there have been a special edition or two that the few lucky ones have gotten but overall most of us have patiently waited 6 months.
The problems are the ones who want it now and don't want to wait.
In Uma's case I can understand, she has been around here forever and still isn't satisfied, believe me Uma I understand what you are going through. However, on the flipside that is one of the disadvantages of buying the first ever model, the bugs need to get worked out and we were the guinea pigs, it will all come together if you just hang in there. We are all here to help each other out.
As far as everyone else, please be patient. Zen is doing the very best he can and there have been a few setbacks but if you really want one and are patient you will get one.
And here it is! The ZAG with my polished top cap on my GGTS! So far, I'm an hour into vaping this beast and it's already my favorite genesis atomizer. My only complaint is that it didn't come with a polished top cap so the finishes would all match -.-
Yup Rat is not just another good for nuthin' rodent. Wow, nice avitar!!!!!!
Oh ok I was just trying to help as I said and usually I do walk away when I am feeling especially whiney (or redheady cuz that happens also LOL) so I just wanted to share not trying to bring anyone down though
Happy B-Day Vic!!!
Thank you, Slide!
Happy Birthday!!! Hope you have a great Birthday Viscan!
Thank you, Karla!
Thank you, Miss LilyBear!
Thank you, gnot!
Thank you, Pink rat!!!
HAPPY BDAY VICSAN!!!
Thank you, MrAftrmth!
Happy B-Day Vicsan sprry I just noteit
May all your wish became true
Thank you, ASH!
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