House of Hybrids featuring the Zenesis PV

[Ezkill]

Yea, thanks K-Man every time I've exhausted the different RY4 options someone pops up a new one

Off to order this RY4, as if I didn't have enough juice at the house.

 

[UnFettered_Soul]

Nice I still have to experiment with 28 and 30

What "benefit" or "difference" does the different wire make?
I'm still confused on this....
lower gauge = thicker wire = what?

 

[K-man]

Not caught up yet but gotta tell you all this 1st. I'm sure you've all been to a wedding where they put out a midnight buffet or snacks late in the evening. Well the wedding I went to today, at midnight they had a french fry truck pull up to the doors and that was the midnight snack/buffet. Coolest thing I've ever seen. Fries, poutine, hot dogs, you name it! Different and pretty cool.

 

[K-man]

ok. i'm lazy. i do not like having a locking button that requires use ALL of the time to keep the device from firing. I guess I'll get used to this gp paps sooner or later. Is the caravela going to be this touchy? I noticed I needed to adjust the 510 connection to have the ZAU work right

not dspin approved. forgive the fingerprints

No tiff. lol I had to lock the Caravela every time till crypto suggested i switch to the stronger spring, which i did yesterday. it won't fire even when you set it down.

 

[Pooladdict247]

What "benefit" or "difference" does the different wire make?
I'm still confused on this....
lower gauge = thicker wire = what?

well Ive only had a genny for about a month now and always have had a hard time with shorts because something shifted or moved, either the coil or the wick itself. Whenever Id go to fix the short on a 'seasoned' coil it would just break. It probably doesnt help that it bounces around in my truck with me all day long. But I can for sure say this is true, this coil isnt moving at all without poppin the top and poking at it with something.
I also would assume it being thicker that it is gonna last longer.
As far as taste, I cant comment yet because Im still breaking in the wick I replaced this morning.
Also the Os are much lower than I usually run so Im only running at 3.5v, but I do notice alot more vapor.

I mowed my yard today with it bouncing around in my shirt pocket today and didnt have notta one short.
To me its just more better =)

Opps forgot to add lower gauge = thicker wire = lower ohms

 

[jonnyblatt]

Its crazy thick, lining the wick is a must when wrapping a coil. I dont see this coil breaking down for at least a few weeks like the 32 does. Only drawback is you need like a 7-8 wrap otherwise its too low on the Os.

What doe you mean line the wick? With cotton? With rolling paper?

What "benefit" or "difference" does the different wire make?
I'm still confused on this....
lower gauge = thicker wire = what?

Thicker wire = more electricity can flow through it making it a hotter vape. Think of a water hose. Thin hose wont let the water flow as good as a thicker hose. Same with wire except water=electricity. If you know what I mean. Physics professor taught me the best anology to compare electricity to water pressure .... Anything more from me on the subject would probably not be appropriate for this thread.

Hi K-man how was the wedding?

 

[K-man]

I know a lot of us would be here no matter ... But I just don't want anyone staying up all night in hopes .

I stay up all night just to see your smiling face

 

[Pooladdict247]

What do you mean line the wick?

Put a toothpick or paperclip down the center of the wick and then wrap your coil. It keeps the wick from bending/deforming and it will with how thick the 28 is.
When your coil is wrapped, pinch the top part of the wick with your fingernail so the wick is between the toothpick and your nail and give the wick a little twist to make sure its not too tight, then pull out the toothpick/paperclip.

 

[Murdock Ruml]

What "benefit" or "difference" does the different wire make?
I'm still confused on this....
lower gauge = thicker wire = what?

Think of a water hose compared to a straw. If you were to force water through them both with the same amount of pressure. The water coming out of the straw would come out with more force then that of the hose. Electricity flows the same as water. And the same holds true these wires. Forgive me zen~ for a second. A thicker wire( lower gauge) has less resistance. And we all know what low resistance equates to with our application. So the thicker wire gets hotter faster and because of it's size is more durable. However, do to the low the resistance(forgive me again) you would have to wrap more wraps then you normally would to get the same resistance (and again) as you would with a lower gauge wire. The added benefit if the extra wraps is more surface area touching your wick. So now you have a coil that is durable and really puts out some vapor.

 

[jonnyblatt]

+1 On This. Very well said.

This is what I was trying to say.

Think of a water hose compared to a straw. If you were to force water through them both with the same amount of pressure. The water coming out of the straw would come out with more force the that of the hose. Electricity flows the same as water. And the same holds true these wires. Forgive me zen~ for a second. A thicker wire( higher gauge) has less resistance. And we all know what low resistance equates to on our application. So the thicker wire gets hotter faster and because of it's size is more durable. However, do to how low the resistance(forgive me again) you would have to wrap more wraps then you normally would to get the same resistance (and again) as you would with a lower gauge wire. The added benefit if the extra wraps is more surface area touching your wick. So now you have a coil that is durable and really puts out some vapor.

 

[Murdock Ruml]

What doe you mean line the wick? With cotton? With rolling paper?



Thicker wire = more electricity can flow through it making it a hotter vape. Think of a water hose. Thin hose wont let the water flow as good as a thicker hose. Same with wire except water=electricity. If you know what I mean. Physics professor taught me the best anology to compare electricity to water pressure .... Anything more from me on the subject would probably not be appropriate for this thread.

Hi K-man how was the wedding?

You beat me to the hose analogy. Stupid slow typing iPod.

 

[jonnyblatt]

Got it. I'm going to have to try this.

Put a toothpick or paperclip down the center of the wick and then wrap your coil. It keeps the wick from bending/deforming and it will with how thick the 28 is.
When your coil is wrapped, pinch the top part of the wick with your fingernail so the wick is between the toothpick and your nail and give the wick a little twist to make sure its not too tight, then pull out the toothpick/paperclip.

 

[Chief Thunder]

Think of a water hose compared to a straw. If you were to force water through them both with the same amount of pressure. The water coming out of the straw would come out with more force the that of the hose. Electricity flows the same as water. And the same holds true these wires. Forgive me zen~ for a second. A thicker wire( lower gauge) has less resistance. And we all know what low resistance equates to on our application. So the thicker wire gets hotter faster and because of it's size is more durable. However, do to how low the resistance(forgive me again) you would have to wrap more wraps then you normally would to get the same resistance (and again) as you would with a lower gauge wire. The added benefit if the extra wraps is more surface area touching your wick. So now you have a coil that is durable and really puts out some vapor.

Aka, like pool said 28g flipping rocks!


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[Murdock Ruml]

Aka, like pool said 28g flipping rocks!


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Which is why I got to get some!

 

[Chief Thunder]

Which is why I got to get some!

I got a 50' spool off fleabay for like 5 bucks


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[jonnyblatt]

You beat me to the hose analogy. Stupid slow typing iPod.

Well it IS the best analogy ever.

Electricity is so small and so hard to visualize ... this analogy just made so much sense when I was first learning about electricity and stuck with me. Everyone can understand it.

 

[jonnyblatt]

What up chief, how is everything good to see you here. I feel like you've been gone the last couple weeks. Saw you got a Mini. How much do you love it??

I got a 50' spool off fleabay for like 5 bucks


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[Murdock Ruml]

Well it IS the best analogy ever.

Electricity is so small and so hard to visualize ... this analogy just made so much sense when I was first learning about electricity and stuck with me. Everyone can understand it.

Yep. And every time we charge our batteries we are running a hose between a full fish tank and an empty fish tank.

 

[Pooladdict247]

I think yall just like talking about your hose

 

[UnFettered_Soul]

Think of a water hose compared to a straw. If you were to force water through them both with the same amount of pressure. The water coming out of the straw would come out with more force then that of the hose. Electricity flows the same as water. And the same holds true these wires. Forgive me zen~ for a second. A thicker wire( lower gauge) has less resistance. And we all know what low resistance equates to with our application. So the thicker wire gets hotter faster and because of it's size is more durable. However, do to the low the resistance(forgive me again) you would have to wrap more wraps then you normally would to get the same resistance (and again) as you would with a lower gauge wire. The added benefit if the extra wraps is more surface area touching your wick. So now you have a coil that is durable and really puts out some vapor.

Thanks for that.
Same thing then with the twisting two lengths of say 32 or 30?
Which I tried once, and may try again.