House of Hybrids featuring the Zenesis PV

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the ob

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Hi all.

So you want to hear a sad tale?

Before I became a crazed Zenesis orderer I had stumbled onto another site and ordered a (cough) competing device. Some of you might know this device as the one that is made in Croatia. You think the wait for these is bad, try waiting for one of those.

So I ordered several months ago and it was not supposed to be here until the end of March. I got really excited when I was told that it would ship early. Of course I felt some guilt too as I was hoping to have a Zenesis by now that I could have tried. Different makers and different devices. I appreciate the differences between the two.

I am leaving town tomorrow and originally had really hoped that I would have one of these devices to take with me. Mind you this is the first time I have left town on a real vacation in well, maybe ever. I too own my business and the chances to leave town are few and far between. I finally snapped a couple of weeks ago and made reservations to somewhere sunny. My employees were actually the ones that encouraged me as they probably just want me to leave them alone :)

I have watched the updates from zen and have a pretty good idea of when mine are coming from him. Suddenly last week I found out that the other device had been sent and it seemed like it may just hit before my trip. It was going to be close. Even yesterday I thought I would probably just miss it as it seemed like it would come monday after I had left already.

Last night I had a chance to purchase a mini. To be honest, my motivation was to be able to have one to take with me on my first vacation. I came close to pulling the trigger. I decided I should really let someone else who does not have as many on order get it to have as a spare or one for another juice. Right after I sent the PM letting it go I hit refresh on my USPS shipping update on the other device and it was in town! Holy cow! I thought. This is Karma. I let someone else have that one and I am being rewarded! I called the PO and ran over there to pick it up. I was excited to have my hands on a genesis device. I was excited to get started learning first hand about this world. I better. As I mentioned earlier, I have many of zen's devices coming and this is my future.

I get home rip open the package and begin to examine. I notice some oil and look online for instructions as to how to clean it. People tell me it comes apart easily and that it should not be a problem

I see a screw below the tank that looks crooked. I assume this releases the tank. I turn, SNAP! Hmm. that sounded weird. On inspection, I realized I literally snapped the screw off something that should not have been undone.

I panicked. I researched. I emailed the maker. Yup, I broke what no one thought was possible to break. Yet, somehow, I was not done.

I went to the hardware store. I found what was a temporary solution that would allow me to use this device while I was out of town. At least get some pleasure from it.

I was excited that at least temporarily I had a fix. I came home. I read how to remove the tank. I did it. Perfect. Then I went to put it back on. Hmmm. The screw was not going back in one of the holes. I realized there was some epoxy in the bottom holding one of the tubes in and while putting it back in, I pushed the tube through loosening it up. I broke something else.

I know this is the Zenesis thread, and believe me I do not want to take anything away from that. I have made a significant investment in Zen and his devices. This post in no way is written to talk about competing devices to take any of the spotlight away from Zen's. It is just my sad tale and because you are my friends, I thought I would share and maybe get some sympathy. Also, to highlight (and perhaps support what libertariaNate was asking when he thought I was buying another device) what a novice (read idiot) I am.

also, this is written for another reason. I am writing as a thank you to lorderos33. He has helped and offered to help in a way that is unbelievable to me. He is helping so that the wait on the return of this device is not nearly as long as it could be. He is a amazing person and a wonderful resource. We are extremely lucky to have him around.

I guess the interesting piece of this is that the zenesis will still be the first genesis type of device I ever try.
 

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You know the magnets everybody is looking for on line or borrowing fro friends if you have Radio Shack store near you they do carry them and one of the guys said if anybody used silica wick with ss mesh it works but it wont be a zenesis or genesis it would be just a rebuildable atty thats all

just throwing that out there for all those having so much trouble with dry hits. It may wick better.
 

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Hi all.

So you want to hear a sad tale?

Before I became a crazed Zenesis orderer I had stumbled onto another site and ordered a (cough) competing device. Some of you might know this device as the one that is made in Croatia. You think the wait for these is bad, try waiting for one of those.

So I ordered several months ago and it was not supposed to be here until the end of March. I got really excited when I was told that it would ship early. Of course I felt some guilt too as I was hoping to have a Zenesis by now that I could have tried. Different makers and different devices. I appreciate the differences between the two.

I am leaving town tomorrow and originally had really hoped that I would have one of these devices to take with me. Mind you this is the first time I have left town on a real vacation in well, maybe ever. I too own my business and the chances to leave town are few and far between. I finally snapped a couple of weeks ago and made reservations to somewhere sunny. My employees were actually the ones that encouraged me as they probably just want me to leave them alone :)

I have watched the updates from zen and have a pretty good idea of when mine are coming from him. Suddenly last week I found out that the other device had been sent and it seemed like it may just hit before my trip. It was going to be close. Even yesterday I thought I would probably just miss it as it seemed like it would come monday after I had left already.

Last night I had a chance to purchase a mini. To be honest, my motivation was to be able to have one to take with me on my first vacation. I came close to pulling the trigger. I decided I should really let someone else who does not have as many on order get it to have as a spare or one for another juice. Right after I sent the PM letting it go I hit refresh on my USPS shipping update on the other device and it was in town! Holy cow! I thought. This is Karma. I let someone else have that one and I am being rewarded! I called the PO and ran over there to pick it up. I was excited to have my hands on a genesis device. I was excited to get started learning first hand about this world. I better. As I mentioned earlier, I have many of zen's devices coming and this is my future.

I get home rip open the package and begin to examine. I notice some oil and look online for instructions as to how to clean it. People tell me it comes apart easily and that it should not be a problem

I see a screw below the tank that looks crooked. I assume this releases the tank. I turn, SNAP! Hmm. that sounded weird. On inspection, I realized I literally snapped the screw off something that should not have been undone.

I panicked. I researched. I emailed the maker. Yup, I broke what no one thought was possible to break. Yet, somehow, I was not done.

I went to the hardware store. I found what was a temporary solution that would allow me to use this device while I was out of town. At least get some pleasure from it.

I was excited that at least temporarily I had a fix. I came home. I read how to remove the tank. I did it. Perfect. Then I went to put it back on. Hmmm. The screw was not going back in one of the holes. I realized there was some epoxy in the bottom holding one of the tubes in and while putting it back in, I pushed the tube through loosening it up. I broke something else.

I know this is the Zenesis thread, and believe me I do not want to take anything away from that. I have made a significant investment in Zen and his devices. This post in no way is written to talk about competing devices to take any of the spotlight away from Zen's. It is just my sad tale and because you are my friends, I thought I would share and maybe get some sympathy. Also, to highlight (and perhaps support what libertariaNate was asking when he thought I was buying another device) what a novice (read idiot) I am.

also, this is written for another reason. I am writing as a thank you to lorderos33. He has helped and offered to help in a way that is unbelievable to me. He is helping so that the wait on the return of this device is not nearly as long as it could be. He is a amazing person and a wonderful resource. We are extremely lucky to have him around.

I guess the interesting piece of this is that the zenesis will still be the first genesis type of device I ever try.

sympathy sympathy sympathy & tons more :( :( :(

I feel for you & wish you could have had at least a Croation device to take on your vacation. Try to enjoy yourself anyway ;)
 

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zen has so many videos now that no body should have any trouble because they are so eager to use it they make mistakes i don't have any genesis type mod yet it seems like everybody is saying end of march beginning of april gtus,katana,and zenesis they are mods that i have ordered but all of them have said end of march or begging of april, there all going to arrive my house at the same time from my luck but i have already made my wicks oxidised and sitting in a zip lock backs with labels for each atty coming to me with juice in it already all i got to do is run kanthal and rock-n-roll i guess i think ahead hear me rambling on!!!!!
 

Armen

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more the better i think i don't like it when people brag about it and i don't have it i am not trying to brag myself i'm just saying i like to get what i want and i don't like to wait specially when you have the money to pay for it i guess it's an American thing that if you have money you can have anything, i guess you can call that we in America are spoiled and that's not a bad thing i am very proud to be an AMERICAN
 

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zen has so many videos now that no body should have any trouble because they are so eager to use it they make mistakes i don't have any genesis type mod yet it seems like everybody is saying end of march beginning of april gtus,katana,and zenesis they are mods that i have ordered but all of them have said end of march or begging of april, there all going to arrive my house at the same time from my luck but i have already made my wicks oxidised and sitting in a zip lock backs with labels for each atty coming to me with juice in it already all i got to do is run kanthal and rock-n-roll i guess i think ahead hear me rambling on!!!!!

more the better i think i don't like it when people brag about it and i don't have it i am not trying to brag myself i'm just saying i like to get what i want and i don't like to wait specially when you have the money to pay for it i guess it's an American thing that if you have money you can have anything, i guess you can call that we in America are spoiled and that's not a bad thing i am very proud to be an AMERICAN

I'm not trying to offend anybody i just want my mods I,m just being a impatient person and i guess I,m having one of my diva moments and pouting excuse my expression if I,m coming off a little strong

Capitalization and punctuation, my friend. I'm not trying to harsh on you but it's difficult to read posts like that. It's like trying to decrypt a code. :)

- Tim
 

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Hi all.

So you want to hear a sad tale?

Before I became a crazed Zenesis orderer I had stumbled onto another site and ordered a (cough) competing device. Some of you might know this device as the one that is made in Croatia. You think the wait for these is bad, try waiting for one of those.

So I ordered several months ago and it was not supposed to be here until the end of March. I got really excited when I was told that it would ship early. Of course I felt some guilt too as I was hoping to have a Zenesis by now that I could have tried. Different makers and different devices. I appreciate the differences between the two.

I am leaving town tomorrow and originally had really hoped that I would have one of these devices to take with me. Mind you this is the first time I have left town on a real vacation in well, maybe ever. I too own my business and the chances to leave town are few and far between. I finally snapped a couple of weeks ago and made reservations to somewhere sunny. My employees were actually the ones that encouraged me as they probably just want me to leave them alone :)

I have watched the updates from zen and have a pretty good idea of when mine are coming from him. Suddenly last week I found out that the other device had been sent and it seemed like it may just hit before my trip. It was going to be close. Even yesterday I thought I would probably just miss it as it seemed like it would come monday after I had left already.

Last night I had a chance to purchase a mini. To be honest, my motivation was to be able to have one to take with me on my first vacation. I came close to pulling the trigger. I decided I should really let someone else who does not have as many on order get it to have as a spare or one for another juice. Right after I sent the PM letting it go I hit refresh on my USPS shipping update on the other device and it was in town! Holy cow! I thought. This is Karma. I let someone else have that one and I am being rewarded! I called the PO and ran over there to pick it up. I was excited to have my hands on a genesis device. I was excited to get started learning first hand about this world. I better. As I mentioned earlier, I have many of zen's devices coming and this is my future.

I get home rip open the package and begin to examine. I notice some oil and look online for instructions as to how to clean it. People tell me it comes apart easily and that it should not be a problem

I see a screw below the tank that looks crooked. I assume this releases the tank. I turn, SNAP! Hmm. that sounded weird. On inspection, I realized I literally snapped the screw off something that should not have been undone.

I panicked. I researched. I emailed the maker. Yup, I broke what no one thought was possible to break. Yet, somehow, I was not done.

I went to the hardware store. I found what was a temporary solution that would allow me to use this device while I was out of town. At least get some pleasure from it.

I was excited that at least temporarily I had a fix. I came home. I read how to remove the tank. I did it. Perfect. Then I went to put it back on. Hmmm. The screw was not going back in one of the holes. I realized there was some epoxy in the bottom holding one of the tubes in and while putting it back in, I pushed the tube through loosening it up. I broke something else.

I know this is the Zenesis thread, and believe me I do not want to take anything away from that. I have made a significant investment in Zen and his devices. This post in no way is written to talk about competing devices to take any of the spotlight away from Zen's. It is just my sad tale and because you are my friends, I thought I would share and maybe get some sympathy. Also, to highlight (and perhaps support what libertariaNate was asking when he thought I was buying another device) what a novice (read idiot) I am.

also, this is written for another reason. I am writing as a thank you to lorderos33. He has helped and offered to help in a way that is unbelievable to me. He is helping so that the wait on the return of this device is not nearly as long as it could be. He is a amazing person and a wonderful resource. We are extremely lucky to have him around.

I guess the interesting piece of this is that the zenesis will still be the first genesis type of device I ever try.

OMG ob. That is just such rotten luck. All those months of waiting and you didn't even get to try it. :(

At least you know your Zenesii are being shipped with their Fused Quartz tanks AND Polycarb backup tanks, so there's not a chance in he!! you won't be able to vape one of them when you do get them.

Still, enjoy your trip knowing when you return you may have 3 Zenesii waiting for you. That's your silver lining. ;)
 

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Capitalization and punctuation, my friend. I'm not trying to harsh on you but it's difficult to read posts like that. It's like trying to decrypt a code. :)

- Tim

You beat me to it, Tim...

On another note... I can't believe that mini sold in the classies in 2 minutes to an outlander!

I have no idea what serial he had... I don't keep track, but I know it was under 50.

And while I'm at it, yes indeed we are lucky to have Lorderos here, and Riddle as well... These guys are mesh/coil mavens of the highest order...

And speaking of Lorderos...

He is going to post a modification that tightens up the draw for those that prefer it to be stiffer, and he feels it also improves wicking for some... And it will not make it worse for others... So this is the first officially authorized modification that you can do that will not void your warranty by doing so... But I will offer some guidelines.

It is possible when doing the modification to alter the finish (read that to mean "screw up") the finish of your top cap in the process... If you do so, I'm not going to be able to fix it under warranty.

Additionally, the modification he will be presenting narrows the air hole which in turn, tightens the draw.

In 4-5 weeks I will have a stiff draw top cap available as an option which will do exactly the same thing... So if by chance you try it and make a mess of it, you will be able to get a replacement that has the same desired effect.

So it's up to you if you are handy and have the tools , to give it a whirl.

If you don't have the tools, it will cost less to buy the optional cap than running out and buying the tools, and there is no risk.

In either case, what he is posting is an authorized modification.
 

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OB,

First off, I'm sorry to read about the troubles you are having with your "other" device. I hope lorderos33 is able to get you squared away quickly.

<snip>
Also, to highlight (and perhaps support what libertariaNate was asking when he thought I was buying another device) what a novice (read idiot) I am.
<snip>

Secondly... It wasn't my intention to make you feel like an idiot. For that, I offer you my sincerest apologies.

Honestly, I was just wondering if you knew something I wasn't savvy to. Insider information on the upcoming zombie apocalypse, perhaps? :D
 
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