House of Hybrids featuring the Zenesis PV

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Also, a common misconception is that you need to get every coil glowing... well.. when the wick is brand new with no juice on it, that can happen... but if there is juice in the tank, the bottom coil or two may never glow because there's juice on it.

And Jen, it's not just you... people new at this need to resist the urge to start over when it's acting funny. I wonder if this is in the FAQ... it certainly should be!

I'm glad to know I'm not just an ID10T :) How do you tell the difference between juice on it and an actual short? Even on this new coil I think I keep getting shorts on the bottom..

Jen
 

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I'm glad to know I'm not just an ID10T :) How do you tell the difference between juice on it and an actual short? Even on this new coil I think I keep getting shorts on the bottom..

Jen

you can ask everyone here. I kept making new coils over and over because the bottom one was not lighting up at the same time as the rest.

I have to say that once you figure out how to adjust them into place so there are no shorts, then the key is to just leave it for a while. I have had mine for a bit now, and it has started to bloom in the last couple of days. I am finally experiencing what everyone has talked about.

Please keep posting questions and concerns. Zen will answer if he can (although I think he might be in full assembling and shipping mode this week) but there are many others who are really knowledgeable and have helped some of us a lot.
 

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I'm glad to know I'm not just an ID10T :) How do you tell the difference between juice on it and an actual short? Even on this new coil I think I keep getting shorts on the bottom..

Jen

Once you get them to all glow evenly on a dry burn, you have cleared the shorts....it will most likely not reshort on you, so then just fill the tank and vape, or turn horizontal to help wicking and burn through a full tank while lightly blowing on it, tilt more if top coil starts to glow, tilt less if juice is dripping out of top of wick, I burn for about 10 sec at a time, went through about 3.5 ml and it is working near dreamlike now....

Riddle or lorderos, correct me if you have small difference in your approach
 

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Once you get them to all glow evenly on a dry burn, you have cleared the shorts....it will most likely not reshort on you, so then just fill the tank and vape, or turn horizontal to help wicking and burn through a full tank while lightly blowing on it, tilt more if top coil starts to glow, tilt less if juice is dripping out of top of wick, I burn for about 10 sec at a time, went through about 3.5 ml and it is working near dreamlike now....

Riddle or lorderos, correct me if you have small difference in your approach

That is the right approach for sure, but I don't go through a full tank when I do it, I just keep going until the wick is flowing freely at the angle I normally vape at. That's not to say that sometimes it may take a whole tank, just that it doesn't take that much for me normally. That is a good place to start though and as you use the Zenesis more you will find that spot in far less than a tank :)
 

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Everything seems to be comming together for most.... That's great!! With the support of this group, failure is not an option... You may not like the end result... Although, I could not for the life of me understand why not... But ymmv..

I have no idea why I made the rule for myself, but I am gonna have to stop waiting until I reach the end of the thread to comment. I forget half of the posts I want to comment on. And well I am starting to feel like I am falling out of the loop when I have to spend a day away from my beloved sisters and brotheren.. I am a zenfidel for life... Even if I do fall out of the loop, off the radar, off of mars and back to earth... This reminds me....

Hey bumpinukelz or how ever you spell that.. Lol I like it... When will you be able to do the shirt thing again? I hope you will be able to as I missed the first go around due to a 22 hour work day for about 6 days in a row... Sometime owning your own business is the pits, but I will never complain.. Thanks in advance bumpi...

Pchela.. Do you prefer a 510 atty or a 901... If you like a 901 I would go back with a five wrap when you set up your coil...it seams to mirror the performance 4 wraps will be more along the lines of a 510 atty or a 301 actually because it has mor flavor than a 510... Ymmv...

Riddle... Do you have anyway to contact pailpoe.. I have a Orion I need referbed, and I can't seem to find how to get in touch with him... Unless zen wants it for a mini... J/k well not so much... But don't expect a yes.... I would trade it for a slap together seconds unit... But I'm gonna buy one anyway so it's whatever...
 

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Once you get them to all glow evenly on a dry burn, you have cleared the shorts....it will most likely not reshort on you, so then just fill the tank and vape, or turn horizontal to help wicking and burn through a full tank while lightly blowing on it, tilt more if top coil starts to glow, tilt less if juice is dripping out of top of wick, I burn for about 10 sec at a time, went through about 3.5 ml and it is working near dreamlike now....

Riddle or lorderos, correct me if you have small difference in your approach


That's pretty much how I got ours going good
- Riddle and lorderos are very good at expleeeenin Tings To us ID10T's ....
 

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Everything seems to be comming together for most.... That's great!! With the support of this group, failure is not an option... You may not like the end result... Although, I could not for the life of me understand why not... But ymmv..

I have no idea why I made the rule for myself, but I am gonna have to stop waiting until I reach the end of the thread to comment. I forget half of the posts I want to comment on. And well I am starting to feel like I am falling out of the loop when I have to spend a day away from my beloved sisters and brotheren.. I am a zenfidel for life... Even if I do fall out of the loop, off the radar, off of mars and back to earth... This reminds me....

Hey bumpinukelz or how ever you spell that.. Lol I like it... When will you be able to do the shirt thing again? I hope you will be able to as I missed the first go around due to a 22 hour work day for about 6 days in a row... Sometime owning your own business is the pits, but I will never complain.. Thanks in advance bumpi...

Pchela.. Do you prefer a 510 atty or a 901... If you like a 901 I would go back with a five wrap when you set up your coil...it seams to mirror the performance 4 wraps will be more along the lines of a 510 atty or a 301 actually because it has mor flavor than a 510... Ymmv...

Riddle... Do you have anyway to contact pailpoe.. I have a Orion I need referbed, and I can't seem to find how to get in touch with him... Unless zen wants it for a mini... J/k well not so much... But don't expect a yes.... I would trade it for a slap together seconds unit... But I'm gonna buy one anyway so it's whatever...

agree on the owning your own business, business.

hope to see you around more. miss you around these parts :)
 

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Pretty sure you meant wick and this a good FAQ, The dunking seems to Really help the Flavor and wicking !!!

I did mean wick. I just noticed another spot where I put coil instead of wick too, lol.

here...

The coil WICK will get red hot, do not quench in water during this step (you may want to use a tweezers or unbent paper clip hold the wick during this step, we don't want you to get burned).Do this until when you drop juice on the wick it gets sucked up instantly.
 

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I did mean wick. I just noticed another spot where I put coil instead of wick too, lol.

here...

The coil WICK will get red hot, do not quench in water during this step (you may want to use a tweezers or unbent paper clip hold the wick during this step, we don't want you to get burned).Do this until when you drop juice on the wick it gets sucked up instantly.


I use a paper clip barely into the wick enough to keep it straight

And shouldnt we let it burn to it goes out on its own ??


(BTW Don't (or be Very careful ) adding drops to a wick that isnt fully out it Will Flare UP !!!
 

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I use a paper clip barely into the wick enough to keep it straight

And shouldnt we let it burn to it goes out on its own ??


(BTW Don't (or be Very careful ) adding drops to a wick that isnt fully out it Will Flare UP !!!

Yes, definitely let it burn till it goes out. I never blow the flames out in this step and of course be careful that it is actually out before adding more juice :)
 

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OK, that makes sense then. Try pulling the wick and heating it with a torch. Let it glow red for 15-20 seconds and then quickly dunk it in water. The wick being red hot will not burn you, but be careful with the water, it will shoot up the wick so really, just drop it in a shot glass full of water (or something equivalent). Do this 3 or 4 times. I am betting that the first 2 times you do this you will notice what looks like little embers on the wick. This is juice gunk and carbonization and what does not burn off will be shocked off by the water.

Once you have done this, heat it once more to be sure there is no water left on the wick.

Now add a few drops of juice to the wick and light it on fire. The wick may get red hot, do not quench in water during this step (you may want to use a tweezers or unbent paper clip hold the wick during this step because you want to let it burn till it goes out, we don't want you to get burned).

Do this until when you drop juice on the wick it gets sucked up instantly. This can be as few as3 or as many as 10 cycles.

Now wet the wick once more and put it into the Zenesis and re-wrap a news coil.

Fix any shorts (drop juice on the wick as needed to prevent overheating on spots that are shorting).

Once the shorts are gone, tilt it about 45 degrees with the wick down and the vent hole up and fire the coil continuously till the juice starts running down the wick.

You should be in vaping heaven within 10 drags.

This works for at least 90% of the time. Like I said before, there is always that occasional stubborn wick :)


The corrections have been made in case this ends up in the FAQ :)
 
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