House of Hybrids featuring the Zenesis PV

[pumasforpets]

This new limited device sounds quite intriguing, I'm going to assume (and hope) what makes it so expensive/unique is not the material that it is constructed out of, but because of some new engineering. Something even simpler than the current rebuildable atomizer, perhaps? A wickless atomizer? Some new way to vaporize the liquid that involves a unique heating element and not a wire coil. I'm curious to see what you make Zen~.

I also hope that if you pioneer a technology that it becomes something that others will use too, a new paradigm. I hate to say things like "revolutionary" but I hope its something that moves in that direction. File those patents!

As for patents, I'd hate to see that happen (for personal and community reasons). Zen didn't pioneer the Genesis concept, but has certainly taken it to new levels and if that concept had received a patent, the Zenesis would probably not exist. The way I've thought about doing things is keeping it completely open source. Obviously, no one should be copying the work of others exactly, but I would think a design trademark or copyright might cover that without the need for a concept patent. In my own work, I don't really have a problem with others borrowing concepts (I certainly have, with some of my own innovations), but I would definitely have a problem with a direct or very close to direct ripoff.

I'd rather make my money by producing the best version of my design than by restricting others from building from it.

 

[ian74]

As for patents, I'd hate to see that happen (for personal and community reasons). Zen didn't pioneer the Genesis concept, but has certainly taken it to new levels and if that concept had received a patent, the Zenesis would probably not exist. The way I've thought about doing things is keeping it completely open source. Obviously, no one should be copying the work of others exactly, but I would think a design trademark or copyright might cover that without the need for a concept patent. In my own work, I don't really have a problem with others borrowing concepts (I certainly have, with some of my own innovations), but I would definitely have a problem with a direct or very close to direct ripoff.

I'd rather make my money by producing the best version of my design than by restricting others from building from it.

That's a good point. I'll get rid of that in my post, I was hesitating to put it in anyhow, for the same reasons for which you mentioned.

 

[keighles]

Not to be a pain, but just wanted to be clear on what I am to do when the new atty's are released. I know there is no payment as of now on the HOH site, and I can't seem to find any other sub-forums or threads relating to Zen~products.

Just want to be prepared when I get my notification. or do I just relax and wait for the notification and go through the site.

 

[vicsan]

Not to be a pain, but just wanted to be clear on what I am to do when the new atty's are released. I know there is no payment as of now on the HOH site, and I can't seem to find any other sub-forums or threads relating to Zen~products.

Just want to be prepared when I get my notification. or do I just relax and wait for the notification and go through the site.

From what I understand, there will be plenty of Z-Atties. He had to order from two machine shops because the first machine shop was a slacker, so he had a double order of them when he ordered from the second shop as a back-up. IF his ecommerce is back up and running, the sales will go through the site, so having the notice sent to you is the best way to go. IF he doesn't have the ecommerce available by then, he'll do another payment alternative...Paypal? His ZenesisPayment through his phone? He'll think of something. Signing up to be notified is the best thing to do and he will let us all know how to pay when the time comes. He'll post here, probably.

Here's the Zenation group forum and the zen alerts: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/groups/zenation-home-zenfidels-d2315-zen-alert-page2.html

There's a lot of useful info in the group forum.

 

[Bmays]

I want a Z-Atty somethin fierce so if this should not be posted here then please advice (nicely of course ) but anyway. I am looking at the Z-Atty hard but also the bottom coiled Rebuildable Atty(s) as well. I can get both for around the same price. I have looked for pros/cons of each but cant seem to find any.

Could someone please enlighten me on the "best" route to proceed. Thanks

 

[vicsan]

I want a Z-Atty somethin fierce so if this should not be posted here then please advice (nicely of course ) but anyway. I am looking at the Z-Atty hard but also the bottom coiled Rebuildable Atty(s) as well. I can get both for around the same price. I have looked for pros/cons of each but cant seem to find any.

Could someone please enlighten me on the "best" route to proceed. Thanks

I'm sure zen~ can Zenlighten you. I know nothing about the other atty you're talking about, but I do the the Zenesis atty and it is pretty much flawless. It's EASY. It vapes like a steam engine. It lasts for a LONG, LONG time. I've had the same wick and coil on my Mini and Standard for at least three weeks and all I do is dry burn to clean between tankfuls of juice, a little nail scraping on the wick and coil and they are still going strong. Someone else who knows the other atty can speak to that one.

 

[junebugg1999]

Idk if any of you vape gorilla juice but I just switched the zeni from pg base to vg and all I can say is woW!!! No wicking problems on 400 and this is better than it ever was dripping on a Cisco. Just amazing, need I say more...

 

[sinnyc]

Idk if any of you vape gorilla juice but I just switched the zeni from pg base to vg and all I can say is woW!!! No wicking problems on 400 and this is better than it ever was dripping on a Cisco. Just amazing, need I say more...

I vape Gorilla Juice with 325 and have been pretty happy with the results.

- Tim

 

[vicsan]

Idk if any of you vape gorilla juice but I just switched the zeni from pg base to vg and all I can say is woW!!! No wicking problems on 400 and this is better than it ever was dripping on a Cisco. Just amazing, need I say more...

I bought some ejuice last week thinking I was buying 60/40 PG/VG (that's the only PG/VG mix they had in it...I thought). The day I got it, I filled my tank and had MASSIVE amounts of vapor. My first thought was WTH am I vaping here? I get a LOT of vapor on 70/30 PG/VG, but this was even more! We're talking unbelievable, MASSIVE amounts of vapor here (you know already with your VG Gorilla Juice)! I looked at the bottle and found they had sent me 100% VG. The juice was wicking through my weeks old 400 mesh wick like a steam engine! VERY IMPRESSIVE. The Zenesis is just an incredible APV. That bottle of juice is gone already and the juice continued wicking through my 400 mesh like it was PG/VG. Still using the same wick and coil too.

 

[Bmays]

Yes, I'm sure Zen has single-handily increased the sale of Juice from many vendors as some juice taste better/diffrent with the genisis style attys. Plus, I find myself re-filling my tank way more so I know I'm burning a lot more juice too.

We need a Gas-Buddy app for Juice dang-it!!!!

 

[lexi60]

I want a Z-Atty somethin fierce so if this should not be posted here then please advice (nicely of course ) but anyway. I am looking at the Z-Atty hard but also the bottom coiled Rebuildable Atty(s) as well. I can get both for around the same price. I have looked for pros/cons of each but cant seem to find any.

Could someone please enlighten me on the "best" route to proceed. Thanks

I use both bottom and top coils.
The main difference is top coils give more heat, equal flavor IMO, bottom coils are easier to get wicking on your own. But Zen takes care of that for you.
On the quality aspect, if you want a mod that will last forever, made of the highest quality metals. You won't break by dropping it.
The Zen line of APV's are at the top of the game.
Most the other mods have dinky connectors, that brake, short out. Pita to fix most of the time.
The Zen's are the best ” pick it up and vape” mods I own.
not to sound like a fan boy, but Zen has changed the game.

 

[Bmays]

I use both bottom and top coils.
The main difference is top coils give more heat, equal flavor IMO, bottom coils are easier to get wicking on your own. But Zen takes care of that for you.
On the quality aspect, if you want a mod that will last forever, made of the highest quality metals. You won't break by dropping it.
The Zen line of APV's are at the top of the game.
Most the other mods have dinky connectors, that brake, short out. Pita to fix most of the time.
The Zen's are the best ” pick it up and vape” mods I own.
not to sound like a fan boy, but Zen has changed the game.

Okay, I received a PM with a negative on the bottom coils too. Thanks for confirming that for me.

 

[Uma]

Goodness! A lot is happening lately.
Z-atty's due out soon .... new special collector's edition in the works ....

I have been ready for the z-atty-u for months! I hope to get one with my button, to save on shipping costs and the likes. This is going to be one heck of a great Mother's Day this year.

 

[K-man]

So how many weeks did that take . J/k I have read it through a few times, and it's always funny and entertaining.. This IS my favorite thread!!!

I'm on my 2nd go around and I have over 1600 pages to read both times....and I don't even own a Zenesis.....Yet!!!

 

[K-man]

I have to say how truly impressed I am with Zen's commitment to excellence and his quest to build the best PV anywhere. It's evident every time the man speaks. Hat's off to you Zen!

 

[Bamrz]

Only 10 made of something special? Damn it! I want one and I don't even know what it is! I'm not in a great financial situation so I have to be prepared for these things. Now, what can I sell?

I'm beginning to feel like this on the new announcements too!

 

[zygote]

I'm beginning to feel like this on the new announcements too!

been thinking about it also..........hmmmmmm, i might be interested even without knowing what it is, strange i never bought anything without stepping back and taking a look first but these zenesii really grab my attention! Maybe it's the outlaw factor, even though this is a legal product, it's like doing something you are not supposed too, that's just stuuupid. I WANT ONE.

 

[bumpi]

Okay, Zen metioned the new APV with a limit of 10 will be the Bentley of APV's. Here is a list of the worlds precious metals, which one do you think it may be made from or a derivitive of:

Platinum
Rhodium
Gold
Iridium
Osmium
Palladium
Rhenium
Ruthenium
Germanium
Beryllium
Silver
Gallium
Indium
Tellurium
Mercury
Bismuth

I am thinking Sterling Silver as gold and platinum are waaaaay too expensive.

what is Wolverine's skeleton covered with? Adamantium? maybe it will be that

 

[Landlord]

So i did some wheeling and dealing wound up getting an Aluminum Zenesis from the December runs.. This this is way lighter and the draw is a lil stiffer.. The air hole is a tad smaller.

 

[pchela]

That must've been some amazing wheelin' and dealin' Landlord! Congrats!