House of Hybrids featuring the Zenesis PV

[violetvoo]

I can already tell I'll be buying more Zens...
wanna ggts with Ody anyone?...

 

[K-man]

Somebody please help me out here. I'm on my 2nd go around reading the whole thread. I'm at page 1290. I can't wait to find the answer to this question and if I fly through it at the speed of light to find it on my own, I'm going to miss a whole lot of other stuff like I missed this the 1st time around......

I saw that Zen announced he was going to do a titanium mini. Ten pages later I still haven't found out where that stands. Was it put on the ecommerce site? And if so, safe to assume completely sold out?

BTW......going through the thread twice, I feel like I now know most of you better than I know my own family lol. And I know, I know..... I should've just asked Kcos about the Tini! I just figured she'd be too busy loving her mini to reply!

 

[Mr. White]

that is why I only use Pila chargers. And when they come of the charger don't put them in my mods right away and I check there voltage before using them and I deduct the internal resistance from my multimeter and then they always read 4.20V on the dot.

Ditto. That's why the Pila is worth the money.

 

[zygote]

short term i forgot what i was going to say.......oh yea ? when are the Ti mini's going to availible? and any updates on thier progress? thanx.

 

[Mr. White]

Somebody please help me out here. I'm on my 2nd go around reading the whole thread. I'm at page 1290. I can't wait to find the answer to this question and if I fly through it at the speed of light to find it on my own, I'm going to miss a whole lot of other stuff like I missed this the 1st time around......

I saw that Zen announced he was going to do a titanium mini. Ten pages later I still haven't found out where that stands. Was it put on the ecommerce site? And if so, safe to assume completely sold out?

BTW......going through the thread twice, I feel like I now know most of you better than I know my own family lol. And I know, I know..... I should've just asked Kcos about the Tini! I just figured she'd be too busy loving her mini to reply!

The Tini is sold out. Sorry.

 

[zygote]

I can already tell I'll be buying more Zens...
wanna ggts with Ody anyone?...

NO NO NO and NO

 

[K-man]

The Tini is sold out. Sorry.

I missed so so much not having started reading this thread at the beginning of April. I'd kill for a Tatanium Mini!

 

[vicsan]

Somebody please help me out here. I'm on my 2nd go around reading the whole thread. I'm at page 1290. I can't wait to find the answer to this question and if I fly through it at the speed of light to find it on my own, I'm going to miss a whole lot of other stuff like I missed this the 1st time around......

I saw that Zen announced he was going to do a titanium mini. Ten pages later I still haven't found out where that stands. Was it put on the ecommerce site? And if so, safe to assume completely sold out?

BTW......going through the thread twice, I feel like I now know most of you better than I know my own family lol. And I know, I know..... I should've just asked Kcos about the Tini! I just figured she'd be too busy loving her mini to reply!

Yeah, the Ti Mini has sold out, BUT there may be another run of them, so keep your eyes peeled!

 

[pchela]

I can already tell I'll be buying more Zens...
wanna ggts with Ody anyone?...

Welcome to the Zenfidels.

 

[Mr. White]

I checked 4 of 18350 AW IMR and they all seem to come off at 4.24-4.26!

I use a XTAR MP2 USB Mini charger made specifically for this battery! (mini charger for the mini made sense to me for portability)

Any thoughts on whether switching it from 3.7V to 3.0V would help prevent this or would just lengthen the time it charges and end up at the same place or stop charging prematurely because it should never get near 4.2 if it's charging a 3V battery? (This charger can also charge 3V-CR123 batteries)

Apparently the AW IMR are lower resistance and this is why certain chargers slightly overcharge these batteries because they expect a smaller load.
So what's an easy way to add a little of resistance to the battery terminal to convince the charger to shut off earlier?
There's no space in this little thing (see pict) to add a resistor, but maybe somebody knows a trick to get around this?

Now I am concerned that 6Bay Xtar-WPII6 is likely doing the same thing. This really pisses me off...If you only sell IMR batteries & chargers for them, you would think you would make sure they are okay to use with the only brand of battery you sell, but that's just me blaming external forces for my lack of due diligence and at least I am cognizant of this fact while still typing it out anyway!

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18350 AW IMR 700MAH
Attention : These IMR cells have much lower internal resistance than regular LiIon 3.7V cells and they may end up with a higher ending voltage when charged in certain chargers ( especially older version WF-139 charger ). Please check the voltage of them right out of the charger to see if they are above 4.20V when fully charged with your charger. Overcharging above 4.25V may shorten life/cycles. Above 4.50V may even pop them or making them leak. DO NOT use the charger if it seems to overcharge IMR cells.

Switching the setting to 3V is not going to work. The XTAR is a littlehot if it's putting them in the 4.24-4.26 range, but it's not a deal breaker. It will probably take some cycles out of them as far as life of the battery goes, but it's not going to pop them. On the plus side, they are cranking when you take them out of the charger.

 

[RippleInStillWater]

Coming soon, actually...



Not really... I didn't ship them in order... they were all over the map... I still have some PV's with serials under 10!

I mix them in as I ship so some people get lower numbers... just for fun!

Wow, would that drive the GG fanboys bonkers!!!!

 

[zygote]

I gotta get one of these things or i'm going to cry.

 

[K-man]

Yeah, the Ti Mini has sold out, BUT there may be another run of them, so keep your eyes peeled!

Trust me. They are peeled!. I pretty much live here now. I'm not gonna sleep until my collection of Zenesii includes a Tini. Anyone impressed that I got ZENESII right? I thought I desperately wanted a BAM till I found out about the Tini. Not anymore. I have a SS Mini on it's way, and a 2nd in the works (backup). I don't need the length or battery life of a standard, so I'm sure the mini will do me fine. LMAO I thought I was done with the constant reading and searching after I secured a Mini. Now it continues in search of a Tini. I might as well just move to Rochester and camp outside Zen's house!

 

[pchela]

I don't have a particularly low number but I love my number! It's awesome! #101.

 

[wh01sjongalt]

Switching the setting to 3V is not going to work. The XTAR is a littlehot if it's putting them in the 4.24-4.26 range, but it's not a deal breaker. It will probably take some cycles out of them as far as life of the battery goes, but it's not going to pop them. On the plus side, they are cranking when you take them out of the charger.

Great, I'll shut up now. I like the silver lining of having more power to vape through, longer.

Thanks.

 

[Cardslinger]

Not really... I didn't ship them in order... they were all over the map... I still have some PV's with serials under 10!

I mix them in as I ship so some people get lower numbers... just for fun!

This is the first time I have been dissapointed in one of your decisions.

This is kind of a slap in the face to those of us who spent a lot of time on one of your lists.

Someone just coming to the site & ordering a APV SHOULD NOT be able to get #8.

The overall value of a Zenesis mod has just been greatly reduced.

& no, I'm not planning on selling mine

 

[lorderos33]

Hi Brandon,

I think the vid is a great idea, but we need to see the coil glowing. We never really get to that point. Is the Kanthal making contact everywhere on the wick? I can't tell, but it looks like you may have a spot where the Kanthal isn't making contact. If that's the case, you might have to wrap another one. If it is making contact, read on.

If you're having issues with taste, it's either a short, or wicking. There shouldn't be any "new coil" taste for more than a couple of drags.

If it's a short, you may well have a distinctly metallic aftertaste. I experienced that when I had a short.

To see if you have a short, dry fire your Zenesis until the coil is glowing. After the juice is burned out of the wick, the coils should glow evenly. If you have a spot on your coil that is noticeably brighter, move the coils--gently, with something like the blunt filling needle, and fire again. Move them after you have fired, as the heated coils will be more malleable. Again, just give them a little nudge. Also, if you have a spot on your coil that isn't glowing at all, that is definitely a short. The area directly behind the section that isn't glowing is where the short is happening. Again, move the coil a bit. and be sure to look on the back side of the wick--behind the posts.

If the issue is just wicking, you'll get a dry burn, and it will be just that to some degree--a very dry/off taste. To help speed up the break in of your wick, with the cap off, dry fire your Zenesis til the wick is glowing hot, now til it upside down and quench that wick in juice. Tilt it back up and let it sizzle. To take it even further, with the cap still off tilt it again until you can see the wick saturated with juice, now pulse the fire button and sizzle that juice off. You do not want to dry burn it at this point, you just want to sizzle off the juice on the wick.

Now spend a bit of time tiling and firing, the whole time just frying the juice on the wick. You can tilt it back up if you're getting too much juice, and you can stop firing if the coils is getting too hot. You might want to do this over a rag or paper towel til you get the hang of it.

I did notice that the top of your wick still looks tall. It can be no taller than the top of the center post. If it's touching the top cap, you will get a short.

Also, take something metal and sharp--I use a good-sized open safety pin, and open the top of the wick. You want it open on both ends--like a straw.

There are good vids by Zen~ That show what a properly firing coil looks like. Also, check out the Issues For Early Adopters thread in the Social Group.

I know it's frustrating when you see other people raving about it and yours won't work. I was in the same place a short time ago. Stay patient, stay positive, and go through it step by step--first no shorts in the coil. After that, worry about wicking.

Let us know how it goes.

One thing I would change on this when re-wrapping the coil is to putt the bottom coil up away from the ptfe insert (as high as you can get it). You will notice that Zen~ does this in his video as well. If you burn that insert too much with the heat of the coil your vapor will not taste very good and if you don't correct this the PTFE will actually melt into the wick just a little bit and will hurt your wicking action ALOT.

Other than that, do everything Mr. White has suggested.

 

[Scottinboca]

Why is it such a big deal? I didn't get a Standard Zenesis or BAM just to have a number on it. IMHO, I think think that using the Zenesis is the experience, no matter what # is stamped on it. Yes they are considered to be collectors item, but I bought it more to have the best APV out there.

This is the first time I have been dissapointed in one of your decisions.

This is kind of a slap in the face to those of us who spent a lot of time on one of your lists.

Someone just coming to the site & ordering a APV SHOULD NOT be able to get #8.

The overall value of a Zenesis mod has just been greatly reduced.

& no, I'm not planning on selling mine

 

[paulowafu]

Hmm.... I need to have a mini below #0010.

 

[Mr. White]

One thing I would change on this when re-wrapping the coil is to putt the bottom coil up away from the ptfe insert (as high as you can get it). You will notice that Zen~ does this in his video as well. If you burn that insert too much with the heat of the coil your vapor will not taste very good and if you don't correct this the PTFE will actually melt into the wick just a little bit and will hurt your wicking action ALOT.

Other than that, do everything Mr. White has suggested.

Another excellent tip from the Gen Master that helped me when I needed it.