House of Hybrids featuring the Zenesis PV

[Zen~]

There are a lot of questions about the adjustable throat hit... Here's how it works.... There is a small hole in the top cap, and it's possible to rotate the cap so it's very close to the wick, or farther away... The closer the wick the hole is positioned, the more vapor you get...mthe farther away, the more throat hit... Somewhere in between it balances between the two. It can go from smooth to harsh if you take it to the extremes, and it really works! If you find you have a juice that is lacking in hit... Dial it up! It's simple.

Now... Batteries,ohms, resistance... Forget about it! Start with 4 coils...if that's too hot, add a coil... Too cool...remove one. Specsmanship is silly... It's easy to make it work if you approach non-technically. I prefer that all users of the Zenesis forget about the tech stuff, because what is going to work even if you know nothing. I couldn't tell you what resistance my coil is at this moment, and I don't care. It's vaping well...nothing else matters!

I will do another video that covers ever base before the next round ships, but you will hear me say in it "let's not get all scientific... Wrap the wire and give it a try".

That's all that matters!

 

[ninfreak]

omg.....i have done it. giving out advice on a mod i don't have yet lol. i guess im officially a zenfidel

 

[ninfreak]

i retract my throat hit statement lol....didn't know the cap worked like that, good to know.

 

[Zen~]

well the adjustable throat hit is indeed the result of the resistance u make the coils.

No Sir...that's not correct. See my above post for how this feature works. Coils will effect the hit... But the feature gives you the ability to fine tune in a way coils could never do. I also wish to avoid charts of wraps/resistance... Approach this atty design way more organically!

 

[ninfreak]

i too care nothing bout the resistance, it's all about feeling. i have a provari and adjust up and down based on the juice im using not the gear lol

 

[Zen~]

omg.....i have done it. giving out advice on a mod i don't have yet lol. i guess im officially a zenfidel

It's all good, my friend! I'm glad you're here contributing to the knowledge base!

 

[ninfreak]

indeed....more...zen like, from the inside lol

 

[ninfreak]

and by the way loved the video, it's what sold me on all this stuff

 

[Zen~]

Congrats for the victory, brewz, Zenfidels is an original take for the fanboy thing -- but I have to tell you, I am inZensed that I didn't win!!!

Ripple, Im glad you found your way here!

 

[UA72Riddle]

I would like to ask some stupid questions, if that's alright? I hope I don't embarrass myself too badly with my ignorance, but I just have to ask...because I don't know these answers and have no business owning this beautiful mod if I don't know what I'm doing. So...here goes:

I saw the specs on the standard Zenesis and it mentions "Adjustable throat hit". My question: How do you adjust the throat hit? Is that accomplished in how you rebuild the atty?

Does the # of coil wraps determine resistance (?) and the hotness or coolness of a hit? Can anyone tell me if there are specific number of coil wraps per ohm/resistance? The more wraps, the cooler the vape? Or is it the other way around?

Is there some kind of spec sheet that tells you: wrap twice/three/four/five times for this many ohms/hotness/coolness/resistance? How far apart to make each wrap? Or is this something you just have to do to find what works best for you? I would think the number of wire wraps = same hit for everyone, no? Depending on the juice and how far apart the coils are from each other?

I love fiddling with stuff like this (use to make SS jewelry and worked with tiny pieces) and know I can do the rebuild, but some specific instructions would be nice to have for a reference...for ME anyway. I know next to nothing about batteries/ohms/resistance/voltage/power/etc...

Should I avoid this mod? Or is it doable for someone like me...with a very limited knowledge of this electrical technical stuff.

I'm debating between 3 mods right now and can't decide which to get! I LOVE the idea of having a rebuildable atty with an adjustable throat hit. Atomizers haven't worked for me YET (except in my eGo-T) because of the harsh throat hit. I use cartos on all 3 of my Reos. Will this atty be better for me since it's an adjustable TH?
And the idea of having this integrated tank on a rebuildable atty? OMG. Almost too good to be true.

Could I get some opinions? If you think this isn't for me, just let me know. If anyone could explain specifics to me...in a VERY non-technical way, I would really appreciate it. Thanks for your help!

Happy New Year! I hope it's great for everyone!

Let's see if I can help you out with this a little bit....

First...YES you can handle this mod. It is very easy with practice....even if you have never vaped before. I started using Genisis attys after only two months of vaping...and now it's all I use. There is a slight learning curve....but if you watch videos, research vey little, and ask when unsure.....you will have it down with in a couple of attempts.

As for TH.....there are a few things that come in to play. First...your juice...starting with the nic content of the juice. Then you have to figure in the ingredients used in that juice. THIS part you can compensate for with your coils....if it hits too hard, add a wrap and cool it off.
Second part of TH has to do with airflow. The more airflow...the cooler the vapor because you are cooling the coil faster. Less airflow, stronger TH....less vapor. Airflow is a crucial factor to a properly functioning Genisis atty....no matter who it is made by.

As for the coil....this is the part that makes the Genisis so amazing! Wrapping your own coil allows you to get the vape the way you like it EVERY time...no matter what type of batter or mod you are using (because we all know they are not all created equal ). You have different types of resistance wire, but the majority has found that A1 Kanthal works best. It can be found on eBay for very cheap. Most of us use 32AWG (.20 mm) for the lower resistance. This let's you have more wraps, but still achieve a LR coil. 34AWG (.16 mm) has higher resistance per meter...so it takes less coils to achieve higher ohms.

So let me simplify that...
3-4 wraps of 32g Kanthal will be between 1.4-1.7 ohm
3-4 wraps of 34g Kanthal will be between 2.0-2.4 ohm
More wraps...higher resistance....cooler vapor
Less wraps....lower resistance.....warmer vapor

Bottom line is this....

Everyone has to start somewhere....so why not here. Complete control of your vape....absolute consistency each and every time. And the best part....a LARGE community of fellow Vapers willing to help you through it every step of the way. You can not go wrong with this mod.

 

[ninfreak]

we arent just fellow vaperers, we are zenfidels!!!!

 

[vicsan]

There are a lot of questions about the adjustable throat hit... Here's how it works.... There is a small hole in the top cap, and it's possible to rotate the cap so it's very close to the wick, or farther away... The closer the wick the hole is positioned, the more vapor you get...mthe farther away, the more throat hit... Somewhere in between it balances between the two. It can go from smooth to harsh if you take it to the extremes, and it really works! If you find you have a juice that is lacking in hit... Dial it up! It's simple.

Now... Batteries,ohms, resistance... Forget about it! Start with 4 coils...if that's too hot, add a coil... Too cool...remove one. Specsmanship is silly... It's easy to make it work if you approach non-technically. I prefer that all users of the Zenesis forget about the tech stuff, because what is going to work even if you know nothing. I couldn't tell you what resistance my coil is at this moment, and I don't care. It's vaping well...nothing else matters!

I will do another video that covers ever base before the next round ships, but you will hear me say in it "let's not get all scientific... Wrap the wire and give it a try".

That's all that matters!

Thank you so much for that explanation! NOW it seems so SIMPLE! I can do that.

I did watch your great video, btw, but I couldn't see how far apart the coils were, or any of the fine details of what you were doing, but now know it's a LOT easier than I thought. Thank you.

I like this quote: "let's not get all scientific... Wrap the wire and give it a try". I like that attitude.

 

[vicsan]

Let's see if I can help you out with this a little bit....

First...YES you can handle this mod. It is very easy with practice....even if you have never vaped before. I started using Genisis attys after only two months of vaping...and now it's all I use. There is a slight learning curve....but if you watch videos, research vey little, and ask when unsure.....you will have it down with in a couple of attempts.

As for TH.....there are a few things that come in to play. First...your juice...starting with the nic content of the juice. Then you have to figure in the ingredients used in that juice. THIS part you can compensate for with your coils....if it hits too hard, add a wrap and cool it off.
Second part of TH has to do with airflow. The more airflow...the cooler the vapor because you are cooling the coil faster. Less airflow, stronger TH....less vapor. Airflow is a crucial factor to a properly functioning Genisis atty....no matter who it is made by.

As for the coil....this is the part that makes the Genisis so amazing! Wrapping your own coil allows you to get the vape the way you like it EVERY time...no matter what type of batter or mod you are using (because we all know they are not all created equal ). You have different types of resistance wire, but the majority has found that A1 Kanthal works best. It can be found on eBay for very cheap. Most of us use 32AWG (.20 mm) for the lower resistance. This let's you have more wraps, but still achieve a LR coil. 34AWG (.16 mm) has higher resistance per meter...so it takes less coils to achieve higher ohms.

So let me simplify that...
3-4 wraps of 32g Kanthal will be between 1.4-1.7 ohm
3-4 wraps of 34g Kanthal will be between 2.0-2.4 ohm
More wraps...higher resistance....cooler vapor
Less wraps....lower resistance.....warmer vapor

Bottom line is this....

Everyone has to start somewhere....so why not here. Complete control of your vape....absolute consistency each and every time. And the best part....a LARGE community of fellow Vapers willing to help you through it every step of the way. You can not go wrong with this mod.

Well, even I can understand your superb explanation! Copied and Pasted and printed for my reference sheet. I think I'm going to LOVE this mod AND the people on this forum. Thank you so much!

 

[ninfreak]

zen is a simple man with a simple philosophy with a horde of zenfidels at his side. be at zen with your technology and it will show you the way.

 

[ninfreak]

welcome to the crew... make sure you pm zen to put you on the list and commence in the nervous waiting for our masterpiece to arrive

 

[vicsan]

welcome to the crew... make sure you pm zen to put you on the list and commence in the nervous waiting for our masterpiece to arrive

Done! I've been Zenned! Now, how long do I have 'til I stalk the mail lady? When are these due out?

 

[ninfreak]

if your are on the list for next batch, sometime in february, if those are filled i am not sure. in any case it will be well worth the wait

 

[UA72Riddle]

Well, even I can understand your superb explanation! Copied and Pasted and printed for my reference sheet. I think I'm going to LOVE this mod AND the people on this forum. Thank you so much!

I don't have all of the answers....but I am glad to help any way I can.

YouTube has great videos on making a mesh wick....and I plan on doing one as well. So far, all I have made is a video o one of my mods. I can't wait to get a Zenisis so I can make a video of it as well. Im not getting in to doing reviews, but I want to do my part to spread the word of these amazing attys that anyone can use successfully.

 

[lexi60]

I don't have all of the answers....but I am glad to help any way I can.

And that you do! Also Zen is a great help. And many others.
As for the keep it simple.. I have 6 pricy VV mods.. None of witch have left 3.8 volts since "perfecting" Geninis style attys. No need for them anymore! No precise wick measuring, ohm readings, wrap 4 vape.. Your heart out!


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[Zen~]

Riddle... Thanks for Jumping in... But... It's ZenEsis (not zenisis)...