House of Hybrids featuring the Zenesis PV

[vaptamist]

He could call it a "salty hot dog" and I'd still want to put it in my mouth.

 

[emonty]

I like APV (Awsome Personal Vaporizer)

 

[Trench]

Well, other people will always pick up terms for their products that they think will sell their product. Should Zen change his term every time someone else decides to adopt the same term? We'd have a new term every few weeks and it would become fluid and meaningless. I sort of see your point, I guess, but you have to draw the line somewhere.

I'd draw it with one less letter.

 

[Trench]

I like APV (Awsome Personal Vaporizer)

Now there's something I'd stand behind! LOL

 

[vampiir]

Sure does.

Unfortunately, to the vast majority of the population it means:

2. New and not yet generally accepted.

I could argue that most vapers are using ecigs from convience stores so the Zenesis would qualify as:

2. New and not yet generally accepted.

Also, in vaping there is a typical progression that most of us likely followed. Cig style ecig -> "mod" -> rebuildable.

'Could be wrong and this is subjective but...

I do get your point that to some advanced = difficult.

 

[Murdock Ruml]

Zen~ is the creator of the zenesis and if he says it is an APV then it is an APV. End of story.

 

[Trench]

I could argue that most vapers are using ecigs from convience stores so the Zenesis would qualify as:

2. New and not yet generally accepted.

Also, in vaping there is a typical progression that most of us likely followed. Cig style ecig -> "mod" -> rebuildable.

You are absolutely correct here. But the more and more that vaping infiltrates the public (which is happening), the less that progression is going to happen. A good vape is no longer totally underground. More and more it's becoming mainstream. And one day we'll be laughing that we vaped the crap we vaped.

Zen has a fighting chance, I believe, to make it big with his PV D) and maybe break that mold.

Aside: I really couldn't care less what he calls it. These are just my opinions. The Zenesis is Zen's business. He'd be laughed out of the building trying to tell me how to run mine.

 

[Trench]

Zen~ is the creator of the zenesis and if he says it is an APV then it is an APV. End of story.

So much for discussion. I bow out.

 

[wh01sjongalt]

For the sake of discussion:

ad·vanced   [ad-vanst, -vahnst]
adjective

3.
pertaining to or embodying ideas, practices, attitudes, etc., taken as being more enlightened or liberal than the standardized, established, or traditional: advanced theories of child care; the more advanced members of the artistic community.
Source- dictionary.com

Sounds Zen to me.

[ɛt ˈtuː ˈbruːtɛ]) ?

 

[BradsBrotherStu]

Refer to it any damn way you please, but in here call it an APV. Got it.

 

[Trench]

I shall call it a Zenesis, thanks.

 

[vampiir]

[ɛt ˈtuː ˈbruːtɛ]) ?

Urban Dictionary: brown nose

touché


/ten

 

[emonty]

A Perfect Vape

 

[EsxPaul]

I go to bed and you guys add another 30 pages for me to catch up on!

Landlord, I'm glad to hear that things are looking better for your father. I wish him a speedy road back to great health.

 

[VPDownunder]

Hey Zen did customs ever get back to you? My Zenesis still hasn't turned up

 

[st0nedpenguin]

Vape vape vape, cloud density diminishing, stick in new battery and top off tank, vape vape vape, cloud density diminishing, stick in new battery and top off tank, vape vape vape, cloud density diminishing, stick in new battery and top off tank.

What's a voltage, eh?

 

[pounder]

I see that point and I'll counter with this...

The term APV is being picked up and picked up big. I see it everywhere now. We're going to start seeing every PV marketed as an APV soon. PVs with complex electronics that Zen don't like, PVs that make you think when you're using them. Zen has been telling us to forget all that. Just Vape It!

It seems to me that it's counterproductive to Zen's marketing to call it an APV.

Here we have a device that takes away all the complexity of getting a good vape and the creator of the device tells us to forget all we've learned to get a good vape out of other devices, and what's it called?....an APV.

Does it make sense? Maybe to you. To me? NO!

I'm not on a crusade, mind you. I just don't like the term, period! It's a term that scares people away rather than draw them near.

Apv will not scare any one off. This community grows by leeps and bounds daily. People will buy this APV for what it will do,not for what it is called. Zen could offer 50 special minis"s and call them the yellow fin turd snapper edition and they would sell out in 10 min.Breathe in Breathe out and let zen do the heavy lifting on this one.

 

[Trench]

I guess It's good that its not called "the apv". Zenesis works for the masses.

 

[raceengine]

On a lighter note.....Am I gonna be the only one sportin a Z-Atty on a bolt?

I have a nice modded bolt waiting for the ZAU

Nope... not for long... in fact, I'm thinking about putting Bolts on the website for Z-atty-U users... It's the cheapest way to get into the Zenesis stuff... 40 bucks for a bolt, 129.00 for a ZAU... at 169, pretty tough to beat!

Well... the bolt need some rework to get it working flawlessly tho... The internal wires so thin it's not even funny. I don't know about the new chrome and black chrome ones tho... But just replacing these wires with thicker gauge helps a lot. And oh... Do note that the powdercoating is everywhere even on the insides... some of the bolts have powdercoating on the threads as well and will seem DOA but careful cleaning/chasing the threads and it'll fire.

Here's a picture of mine... Powdercoated and sinked connector... I just wished it was a ZAU on top

 

[hiatus]

Vape vape vape, cloud density diminishing, stick in new battery and top off tank, vape vape vape, cloud density diminishing, stick in new battery and top off tank, vape vape vape, cloud density diminishing, stick in new battery and top off tank.

What's a voltage, eh?

Your too young to vape. Where's your binky.