How do I get the nicotine kick?

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jamie

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it works ok except I don't get any sort of nicotine kick. :(
This makes me think about the other chemicals in ciggies. Ammonia and Carbon Monoxide are used in ciggies to help zap the brain quickly and give a big affect. It's possible that is the "kick" you are missing, not nicotine.

Elsewhere on the board someone wrote about this, saying that they have noticed no "kick", however they also noticed that after puffing a bit they weren't craving nicotine anymore. Could be similar with you, maybe you are recalling the Ammonia/Carbon Monoxide rush and thinking that is the nicotine addiction when it's not.

You know what you feel better than I, it's just my 2 cents. :)
 

TheEmperorOfIceCream

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agreed, Jamie. The 'missing link' of e-smoking is that head-swim feeling you get off the first cig of the day. I describe this as 'hit' and is one of my four requirements from e-smoking (bite, flavour and vapour are the others).

Lack of hit is the sole reason I go back to real cigs periodically. I say it's just to check if they're stinky, but I'm lying to my bad old self.

E-smoking has replicated the back-throat bite, vapour production and to a reasonable extent the flavour of tobacco cigarettes. Hit is the weak point. We've never had cause to separate this out before, but it looks like that sensation is caused by the additives, and has nothing to do with nicotine.

There is a fifth element (!) but it's less easily quantified. I call it 'business' and it's the physical handling of the device. I'd be happy to pick up a pack of e-cigs, rip the cellophane, smoke 'em and toss 'em. That would utterly replicate tobacco smoking. As it is, battery charging, atomiser cleaning, cart changing, dripping etc all combine to obscure the base habit of inhaling nicotine. I'm a slave to the tactile element of the habit so this perturbs me vaguely. On the other hand a habit is a habit is a habit. These elements just need time to bed in.

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I totally agree, Emp. I've never had a real "hit" from e-vapor. Burn, yes. Hit, no. And I've always used the "extra high" 24mg liquid. Plus, I've also always used snus, Stonewall and a pipe several times a day. E-smoking does not replicate tobacco smoking.

And I can't wait for disposables to be available and affordable. I've growing weary of the dope-like futzing we have to do to use these things. Nothing like having a table spread with a hypodermic syringe, vials of liquid, wet polyester cores, etc. I want the whole thing disposable, including the battery. One e-cig = one real cig. 20 per pack. Use 'em and toss 'em.

If government permits, I'll see that before long.
 

TheEmperorOfIceCream

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Ain't it the truth, Bob. I look at the e-smoking corner of my study and feel like I'm running a crack house. This is why the Target thing intrigues me. I think you're probably right that the tech ain't ready for retail, but if the manufacturer could get the unit price down (by sales volume) the fail rate wouldn't matter as much (and we wouldn't be boiling the damn things in baking soda!). I don't even begrudge the tax bite. Let's face it, the only reason fags are legal at all is because they pay their way.

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No cigarette like kick for me either. I do get a bit moody though if I don't have my e-cig fix.I know that when your body feels pain or stress, your pituitary glands immediate response is to release endorphins which give you a mild opiate like high. Perhaps the toxic fumes entering your lungs is enough to trigger this. This might explain why e-cigs don't, no toxic fumes, no endorphins.
 

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Well as most of you know, I've been experimenting with making my own nic/tobacco juice & I can tell you that wow! I've had many a night when I've been puffing away and sweating up a storm due to nic overload- but of course I'm puffing like a 3 cylinder car goign up a steep grade too- taking huge full drags, holding it in etc. I'm not sure how much nicotine my smokin juice contains, but I know that /I can go a bit overboard and get quite a bit of nic in my system as the sweating gets pretty intense at times & I back off for a bit. I simmered down some Swisher Sweet Cigarillos, and the taste and nic hit I beleive are pretty high judging by my reaction to it- I've been able to cut my regular smoking down from 20 ciggs per day religiously, to 8-10 and don't get hte cravings- but of course, I've probably upped my nicotine levels by two times the amount too. I am goign to start cutting down though- but it'll probably be harder now that I've upped it for a couple of weeks
 
Well as most of you know, I've been experimenting with making my own nic/tobacco juice & I can tell you that wow! I've had many a night when I've been puffing away and sweating up a storm due to nic overload- but of course I'm puffing like a 3 cylinder car goign up a steep grade too- taking huge full drags, holding it in etc. I'm not sure how much nicotine my smokin juice contains, but I know that /I can go a bit overboard and get quite a bit of nic in my system as the sweating gets pretty intense at times & I back off for a bit. I simmered down some Swisher Sweet Cigarillos, and the taste and nic hit I beleive are pretty high judging by my reaction to it- I've been able to cut my regular smoking down from 20 ciggs per day religiously, to 8-10 and don't get hte cravings- but of course, I've probably upped my nicotine levels by two times the amount too. I am goign to start cutting down though- but it'll probably be harder now that I've upped it for a couple of weeks
Nazareth,
I've also been making my own smoke juice and have finally (after months of failed attempts) to come up with a great recipe with vapor volume. However, I found that the nicotine/tobacco is the trickiest part of the juice....but if you're actually sweating, then please be careful because you're consuming too high of a concentrated nicotine hit
 
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