Right but you are still trying to claim there's been no human trials.
How do y'all feel about this law?
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"In our studies we find it actually reduces blood pressure chronically. And there were no addiction or withdrawal problems, and nobody started smoking cigarettes. The risk of addiction to nicotine alone is virtually nil."
- Dr. Paul Newhouse
Director,. Vanderbilt University Center for Cognitive Medicine
April 16, 2014
http://www.tampabay.com/news/health/study-finds-nicotine-safe-helps-in-alzheimers-parkinsons/2175396
https://medschool.vanderbilt.edu/ccm/files/ccm/SFN 2012 Poster MCI- Kamkwalala.pdf
https://medschool.vanderbilt.edu/ccm/files/ccm/SFN 2012 Poster MCI3- Newhouse Chronic.pdf
- Dr. Paul Newhouse
Director,. Vanderbilt University Center for Cognitive Medicine
April 16, 2014
http://www.tampabay.com/news/health/study-finds-nicotine-safe-helps-in-alzheimers-parkinsons/2175396
https://medschool.vanderbilt.edu/ccm/files/ccm/SFN 2012 Poster MCI- Kamkwalala.pdf
https://medschool.vanderbilt.edu/ccm/files/ccm/SFN 2012 Poster MCI3- Newhouse Chronic.pdf
I just posted a link to her guru she suggested i should read. I just Copy and Pasted it from that guru site for Her... not you.
Again, wasnt talking to you, so slow down.
He didnt say its 100% not addictive.
Why are you showing me studies on benefits of nicotine from the 1990's?
Because the study shows the risk of addiction being virtually impossible. Waiting on some scientific studies to back up your addiction claims.
No? So the link doesn't say this at the very end?
"It seems very safe even in nonsmokers," he said. "In our studies we find it actually reduces blood pressure chronically. And there were no addiction or withdrawal problems, and nobody started smoking cigarettes. The risk of addiction to nicotine alone is virtually nil."
It seems very safe...seems safe...seems
Virtually Nil ...almost..but not 100%
Doesnt say they didnt use other products with Nicotine.
You grabing at straws dude, so im done with this discussion.
Guys, please slow down!
This is a very complex topic that is not easily reduced to "addictive versus non-addictive" type statements. For starters, "addiction" is a very contested term. Many of us have battled this issue to death for, literally, YEARS! With very little in the way of agreement.
One question to consider: Is there a difference between dependence-creating and dependence-maintaining? That, to me, is the central issue, and likely where the MAOIs are of considerable importance......
This is a very complex topic that is not easily reduced to "addictive versus non-addictive" type statements. For starters, "addiction" is a very contested term. Many of us have battled this issue to death for, literally, YEARS! With very little in the way of agreement.
One question to consider: Is there a difference between dependence-creating and dependence-maintaining? That, to me, is the central issue, and likely where the MAOIs are of considerable importance......
I'm not sure about the studies so far. I can only go by my own experience. Since I have switched to vaping all of the negative side effects of smoking are gone. No coughing, shortness of breath, no heavy feeling in the chest, no stinky smell. I suspect there will be many studies out there that are paid for by big tobacco. If you haven't figured it out yet big money has a way of distorting things. Considering how easy it was for me to go from a heavy smoker to vaping and the reduced cost you know it has them worried. Most politicians are elected by big business. Yes you get to vote for them but they didn't get to that point without the big business campaign contributions. When it comes to getting laws past big business collects on its investments and they have learned the value of well funded propaganda. I'm just saying be careful of the studies and who is paying for them directly or indirectly.
he pointed you to the evidence many times.
i have followed this whole thread.
regards
mike
I saddens me to see how thoroughly some of the younger generation have been brainwashed to believe what the ANTZ have spewed for so long. So sad that so many have never been taught to think for themselves. Even when the facts have been presented, those that have been so thoroughly brainwash are unable to see it. I am happy that I am now closer to the end of my life instead of the beginning. 
people whom have never used tobacco or nicotine in any form during there
life do not develop any dependency to nicotine when it is administered to them
for medicinal purposes.period.
what is so hard to understand about that.
its a fact.the ANTZ know this and understand what
it could mean.
regards
mike
I really do hope you ARE done here.
That's all I have to say about your posts in this thread.
Absolutely love your avatar, America needs a Rebel Alliance!! We`ll call ourselves Patriots, they will call us Rebels and Insurgents.
Obama has gotten everything he wanted, open riots and attacks against civility and rule of law in America, all the while our imperial leader F`ing golfs!
In this day and age I am oft to make a favorite quote of mine, as it stands for a level of reason and sanity, in an insane self indulgent world.
"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." Thomas Jefferson.
There should be NO LAW against Vaping. In fact. those that vape SHOULD get tax credits and breaks on their insurance, but of course, that would not pay.
Obama has gotten everything he wanted, open riots and attacks against civility and rule of law in America, all the while our imperial leader F`ing golfs!
In this day and age I am oft to make a favorite quote of mine, as it stands for a level of reason and sanity, in an insane self indulgent world.
"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." Thomas Jefferson.
There should be NO LAW against Vaping. In fact. those that vape SHOULD get tax credits and breaks on their insurance, but of course, that would not pay.
PS, the so called "Journalists" open and hostile bias is easily seen in the complete lack of facts contained in this paragraph:
E-cigs, which have been sold in the United States for only about a decade, use a heating element to vaporize a nicotine-laced liquid solution. While they are largely seen as healthier than cigarettes, they are blamed for luring young people to a life of potential nicotine addiction with their array of candy-like flavors.
Apparently the only opinion that matters to him is his, and he`s here to spread it.
E-cigs, which have been sold in the United States for only about a decade, use a heating element to vaporize a nicotine-laced liquid solution. While they are largely seen as healthier than cigarettes, they are blamed for luring young people to a life of potential nicotine addiction with their array of candy-like flavors.
Apparently the only opinion that matters to him is his, and he`s here to spread it.
I happen to like the effect nicotine has on my brain, therefor I'm addicted?
Tell me: any other things you'd like to see banned "because it's bad for you"?
This is exactly what I was referring to, in my post in another thread regarding Civil Disobedience. Laws that are stupid, that make no sense whatever, are completely unjust, and I will not abide by them. Period.
Andria
Yes, I agree totally.
BUT, under the cover of "Making a Marlboro taste like a Marlboro" they were also free to add pretty much anything they wanted to to tobacco. Including tweaking the maoi's, the ammonia, and several other substances which make nicotine completely different than what you get in a cigarette.
Basically:
("Marlboro" being an example of a trade name, obviously only RJR can define what a "Marlboro" is.)
1. The cigarette companies are allowed to do pretty much anything to make a "Marlboro" be a "Marlboro".
2. The cigarette companies have complete power to define what a "Marlboro" is.
3. The cigarette companies have no requirement to disclose what a "Marlboro" is, and can change the formula whenever they want, without any notice to consumers or any branch of the government.
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