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Wouldnt the software that the company puts on the chip also play a big factor in how it utilizes the board? Just thinking out loud. Or are these simply UIs on the boards?
A chip comes from a fabricator with no firmware attached to it. There maybe specific instructions a developer must follow but the firmware is either developed by the mod company or the OEM the company uses. And yes, the firmware plays a large roll on the overall performance of the mod.
Ok thats what I was thinking but wasnt certain [:
To add…the firmware could even come from a 3rd party developing vendor and not the mod company or the OEM.
I'm a temp control vaper. If I was strictly a power/wattage vapor I wouldn't pay the premium for a DNA or YiHi chip. But for TC, they are superior. As to wattage curve, the problem I have is this, and these are arbitrary numbers just for illustration. I could set up a curve with 50W for 1 second then decline by 10W every second thereafter. If the 50W got me to 450F, the lower wattage over time would keep me there. Sorta like a TC curve. The problem is if I then take a second draw as I commonly do, then that original 50W is being applied to a coil already heated up to 450F. Two or three draws and I have an unacceptably hot vape for my preferences. With TC, or now with Replay, that doesn't occur. Each draw will be at the same temperature as the one prior, even when chain vaping. IME, other consumer based boards in mods that in some cases aren't that much cheaper than a DNA equipped mod do not perform this function well.
Same here. Not that anybody here would be interested in my opinion on this, but my preference for high end would be along the more athletic lines of Winifer Fernandez, the Brazillian volleyball player, who I characterize as an uncommon beauty.
nice. she reminds me of camila cabello, beautiful
DNA was the first to have Wattage mode, the first to have TC mode, and at present the ONLY ones to have Replay mode. Without Evolv DNA boards we would all still be using Voltage mode.
One more thing I would like to point out. You didn't need a Provari to get a good vape, but it was better, if you were willing to pay the premium. Today you don't need a DNA board to get a good vape, but it too is better, if you are willing to pay the premium. While it is true that a few boards are getting close to DNA in terms of TC I haven't seen any that are as accurate, close yes, but just not there yet. The good news is DNA boards are still a lot cheaper than a Provari was.
I can't disagree with your points. Nice post.
The Provari got a lot of hate because of the price tag. The fact is, there were legitimate reasons for that price tag. It was 98% USA made, with the best possible components available, many made in house to insure quality control. Even the circuit board was made to their specifications by an Illinois company.
It was made by American workers, who deserved decent American wages with benefits. (Gosh, they even had aerospace engineers on staff.) This generation doesn't seem to understand what "Made in the USA" used to represent. For its time period, the Provari pretty much stood alone as the lone manufacturer of a high end, regulated mod made in America.
Evolv made the Darwin mod, which was even more expensive than a Provari. It was even more odd looking than a Provari. I don't believe anyone would say Evolv sold as many Darwins as Provape sold Provari's.
Provape's main competition mostly came from China where the slogan might as well meant, "We make cheap. You buy cheap. If it break, you buy another." China factory workers barely had it much better than 3rd world sweat shops. So yeah, their mods were much cheaper to make than a Provari and it wasn't really a fair comparison for either Provape or the China manufacturers.
There were a couple of European manufacturers who could make mods of equal quality, but they didn't have the many options (color selection, special models, different finishes, etc) that Provape offered with the Provari, and often couldn't keep up with production, so there was often a long waiting period before you could get your hands on one.
In closing my little rant, there's a good reason why you don't see American made TV's any more. US companies can't compete with Far East manufacturers cost wise. If there are still some left, the parts all come from China, Korea, or Japan and they are just assembled in the US. A good reason why 95% of all vape gear comes from China.
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Well, there's always this approach
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$500K.
Now that is high end.
I mean the girlfriend.
Oh Lord whatcha going to do when it dies? Recycle place would love you.
I have sent off to recycle ego batteries but not any mods and not sure how they will deal with them. Local vape shops have no info on that.
I like to pretty mine up but that is extreme lol
The "controller chip", as purchased as purchased by the board maker, is just an empty microprocessor. The software that the board manufacturer writes for it is what makes it proprietary, and what determines the overall user experience.
Yes I know and mentioned that later within the thread. The definition of proprietary in this context means the chip, or micro processor is not specific to vaping. Software, or better put, firmware does not make a chip proprietary. But do agree that it does contribute to the overall experience.
Software is what makes that collection of chips and other components usable for our purposes. Without the software loaded on it, the board has no functionality at all.
Hi end to me means good quality, long lasting and reliable. That also usually means a hefty price tag.
I started vaping in 2012. High End definition changes with the times, depending on if company goes out of business, or their materials provider raises prices or can't supply necessary elements, plus new players from various countries entering the marketplace. It also includes devices that are great, but the business model of the company ends up "ensuring" their failure as an enterprise.
Seen plenty come and go. Including devices that carried a high price tag and promised LIFETIME WARRANTIES.
A device can be well-crafted and long-lasting in and of itself, but if the company doesn't exist anymore, then that all becomes a moot point, because at some juncture you're going to need a part and unless you can machine it yourself, or find a dupe, you're out of luck.
Bottom line, high end is all about "today" and possibly a few years down the road. For something you use daily, that should be okay, I mean, at $300 or so, you will most likely get your money's worth out of it regardless. Though I do have some tools that I've had for 25 years, I don't put mods in that category.
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I agree with the above comments.
My first high end mod was a Provari 2.5 first purchased in 2012 for $200. It easily fit the description for the above criteria for high end. I ended up buying two more simply because of value. In its hey day, the Provari was considered way ahead of its time. I no longer use them because they are underpowered for the way I now vape, but I will never get rid of them because they still represent "high end" value to me. Why Provari?
It was built to last with superior components. The Provari's body was milled from a solid block of US Steel, not slapped together from some thin pot metal or aluminum sheet cutouts.I've often compared my current JAC Vapour series B DNA75W to the quality of a more powerful Mini Provari, but in hindsight that's not really true. Compared to a Provari, the JAC is a mid-range mod.
It's resistance meter was so accurate that PBusardo used it to test coils during his reviews instead of using a DMM.
The chip that Provape had made exclusively for them (USA made) was extremely precise and accurate to military grade specifications, and produced a vape that users described as uniquely "smoother" than the inexpensive mods made in China. The Rattlesnake Effect- Why the Cheapo VV [Exception Itaste MVP] Don't Vape the Same as a Provari or DNA20D
The stories of the misadventures that Provari's suffered through and survived are still epic for today's standards of durability. To my knowledge, the only Provari that didn't survive was eaten by a lawn mower.
Agree. Provari was the first I know that used an 800HZ coil frequency. The higher the frequency of the synthesized voltage the closer you get to pure DC (think of a mech as a DC voltage device). The Provari produced a smooth sizzle as opposed to the Rattlesnake sound of most mods of the Provari days.
My Provari V2 purchased in 2011 doesn't get much use these days, but I think of it as a step in the evolution of the vape. Back then, variable voltage was king and power mode was just a gleam in the eye of designers.
I have a nice Invicta watch designed by a German company and made in Japan. It's really a work of art. It does have its shortcomings, though. It's a self winder that runs about 24 hours after you take it off, so you have to wear it every day to keep from having to reset the time and the date. My every day watch is a Timex. The battery in the Timex will run for a couple of years. I also own a Seiko Kinetic watch that my company gave me for a 20 year service appreciation award. It's too nice to wear every day, so it's been in a drawer for a couple of decades.
Right now, I'm vaping an HCigar DNA75. It's compact, ergonomic, and accurate, but not that expensive. At some point in the day I might grab an iStick if I'm going to be out of the house. Tonight, I may pick up the Innokin Proton or the Eleaf Invoke. Whatever suits me at the time.
I guess my point is that that mod you like and use every day may just be the best one you own, regardless of the price. They all have a 510 connector, so all will accept the atomizer of choice for the day.
I have a nice Invicta watch designed by a German company and made in Japan. It's really a work of art. It does have its shortcomings, though. It's a self winder that runs about 24 hours after you take it off, so you have to wear it every day to keep from having to reset the time and the date. My every day watch is a Timex. The battery in the Timex will run for a couple of years. I also own a Seiko Kinetic watch that my company gave me for a 20 year service appreciation award. It's too nice to wear every day, so it's been in a drawer for a couple of decades.
Right now, I'm vaping an HCigar DNA75. It's compact, ergonomic, and accurate, but not that expensive. At some point in the day I might grab an iStick if I'm going to be out of the house. Tonight, I may pick up the Innokin Proton or the Eleaf Invoke. Whatever suits me at the time.
I guess my point is that that mod you like and use every day may just be the best one you own, regardless of the price. They all have a 510 connector, so all will accept the atomizer of choice for the day.
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