How do you inhale?

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annah

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you're right- all the suction is mouth- not breath, because if it were breath suction, then it would be going into your lungs, and be direct inhaling. LOL

I dunno, you get good at closing your mouth fast enough not to get smoke in the eye, and starting to inhale just then, so that it gets sucked in rather than floating out.

And for the chipmunk effect, well, I guess I probably don't take as much smoke in each hit as you do. How exactly do you get a chipmunk effect when you are causing suction in the mouth? That should cause your cheeks to go hollow, not puff out. Although I think I simply dont take as big of a drag as i could, because then i'd look stupid. LOL
 

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I think perhaps I know what habit you're referring to - a similar habit may be responsible for my tendency to draw directly into the lungs. "I smoked, but I didn't inhale" never went over well with my crowd... ;)

I wonder if all this mouth-inhaling is why such a small percentage of the nicotine in juice is (supposedly) absorbed into the bloodstream?

or, I wonder how much gets swallowed with saliva?
 

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Finally a description of the direct inhale! I've been trying to figure out how to do this on an e-cig. I mouth inhale and get NO throat hit to speak of on my J118, 901, or 510 and couldn't figure out why. I think this is it. When I do what jersey girl described - I get it - coughing and all! LOL
It's noisy as you are hitting the e-cig and sucking air at the same time but the throat hit is there, you can take a longer drag and there is more vapor on the exhale.

LOL, glad I could help! I think this might help a little more - when you direct inhale, try breathing from your diaphragm, rather than from your lungs. If you don't know how - place one hand on your stomach, right below your belly button. Place the other on your chest, over your heart. Now, breathe deeply, bypassing the chest completely and sending the air straight to the diaphragm. The hand on your belly should move up/out at least 2 inches; the hand on your chest should stay completely still. It helps to think about pushing your belly out when you do this.

This is how I inhale when I want a really DEEP drag, so be careful! But if you're having problems direct inhaling, it should help to think about sending the vapor straight down to your belly like that.

Lalesa said:
Just looks and sounds like an alternate substance - and I have to hold the PV like that too or I can't do it. :lol:

You know, I wondered why I took to the manual battery on the 510 so easily... now you have me thinking it's because it reminds me of a carb! LOL...


Yoshimi said:
I'm having to do a lot of vaping to think about how I do this, but the suction comes from moving the tongue down, cheeks go in and the jaw drops, creating more space in your mouth which forms the sucking action, just like when you suck on a straw lol.

AHA! Finally, a description that worked for me... that's what I meant by creating suction with my cheeks, and that IS what I do when drinking from a straw, now that I think about it. THANK you! :D


annah said:
And for the chipmunk effect, well, I guess I probably don't take as much smoke in each hit as you do. How exactly do you get a chipmunk effect when you are causing suction in the mouth? That should cause your cheeks to go hollow, not puff out.

First they go hollow, THEN they puff out. I like a BIG drag, so when my jaw can't drop any further (which isn't very far, as I have TMJ) I'll start to create the suction by stretching my lips horizontally and rounding my cheeks out. Which is the point at which my lips usually gap open from the pressure, and then the vapor starts seeping into my nose and eyes.

annah said:
Although I think I simply dont take as big of a drag as i could, because then i'd look stupid. LOL

Ah, yes, point taken. ;)

Well, this has been quite educational... :D
 

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mouth inhalers take the smoke into their mouths then almost instant down into the lungs.. if i smoked cigars i took it down into the lungs exactly like with a cigarette.. it all ends up in the lungs with me..

i now e smoke in a double mouthfull way.. suck as much into my mouth as i can... its only so big... he he.. part inhale just to empty my mouth then take another mouthfull.. then fully and deeply inhale the double mouthfull.. then slowly exhale large clouds of vapour part thru my nose and part thru my mouth..

i look like i am surrounded with clouds of vapour when i do it this way..

it can be done with three full mouthfuls if you really want to maximize the effect... three deep draws all in the lungs at once.. try it.. three in at once is good for the heady feeling... he he

if each draw last 4 seconds we are talking a 12 second draw all in the lungs at once.. this is with a manual switch device... i dont normally do three.. two is my norm.. but with two we are talking an 8 second draw all going in the lungs at once.. the bottom line being useing real nicotine strength 24 mg and above juice its possible to well overdose on these thing if you want to.. assuming you have one that works..

however way you smoke it most certainly dosnt need a direct inhale to overdose thats for sure..

trog

ps and as regards vapour not making a smoker cough.. every single time i hand my device over to a real smoker to have a try its guaranteed to bring about a bout of instant coughing and spluttering.. every single time.. i now warn them to only take a small draw.. and they are not direct inhalers.. try as hard as i can i have never found anyone that does it in the UK.. a poll we ran earlier (some months ago) did suggest its younger generation Americans that do it...
 
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JerseyGirl

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i now e smoke in a double mouthfull way.. suck as much into my mouth as i can... its only so big... he he.. part inhale just to empty my mouth then take another mouthfull..

But how do you empty your mouth, without refilling it with air?

I tried this - mouth inhaling for 4 seconds, inhaling that into my lungs for 2 seconds, mouth inhaling for another 4 seconds. Between the vapor I lost from mouth seepage, and the air I took in between mouth inhales, I still wound up with a pretty wimpy hit.

Whereas, when I just lung-inhaled for 10 seconds straight, I wound up with a truly massive cloud of vapor, and a slight buzz (probably shouldn't have tried it with 24mg, lol).

Am I not doing it right, or are you supposed to be taking in air, with your method?
 

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but i just tried an interesting experiment.. direct inhaling using a good vapour producing e smoking device loaded with 24 mg liquid..

it made me cough badly and instantly.. its an extremely unpleasant experience..

now i just tried the same thing with a golden virginia roll up.. strong old fashioned tobacco in a real ciggarette..

interestingly it didnt make me cough.. i cant say i like the experiences it was very hard to draw.. but why didnt it make me cough like e vapour does..

e vapour make me cough badly and hurts my upper lungs when directly inhaled real strong tobacco dosnt..

now i am wondering why... he he he

trog

ps letting air in around the lips must cure the breath thru a pinhole factor but must also lessen the actual vapour taken in..


This is the same as my experience. I never cough or gag when I smoke, even my brothers tobacco that I roll occasionally, but with the ecig, as soon as it hits my throat, I start coughing. I just started so I am experimenting with flavors, etc., so I'm sure I'll find something that works.
 

thana

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I draw the vapor/smoke directly into my lungs. I thought everyone did it that way, until today, lol. If you're not inhaling, what's the point?

I've been trying for the last couple hours to draw the vapor into my mouth first, then inhale it, and it's totally not working. My cheeks are getting all bulgy, and by the time I finish my drag (4-5 seconds) half the vapor has seeped out of my mouth. And it's making my tongue feel funny.

Is there a trick to this I'm not getting?

More importantly, what's the point of doing it that way, vs. just inhaling the vapor directly?

Inhaling directly into your lung is definitely the wrong way to do it. When you inhale directly into your lungs you aren't letting the vapors cool before entering your body, you miss out on the satisfying throat hit, it makes it much harsher on your throat, and it is just not the most satisfying experience.

It is very hard to describe the "correct" way to vape. Try this:

Place your tongue directly in front of the hole of your cart. You want to "draw" a small amount of pressure into your mouth. Your can emulate this by puckering in your cheeks somewhat, but it isn't necessary. It is somewhat like your sucking on a Capri-Sun straw. As you do this, can you feel the vapor hitting your tongue?

Some say that it is best to only draw with a small amount of pressure, but this isn't true. If you apply more pressure, you get more vapor and a larger throat hit.

If your cheeks hurt after doing this for awhile, you are doing it wrong! What happens is, as you run out breath, you tend to force your cheek to suck harder in. The trick is, you can breathe in and out constantly as you draw on your e-cig!

It took me a few days to figure it out, but as you are drawing try to breath in and out through your nose as you apply constant pressure. Once you master this, you could draw on your e-cig for 30 secs if you wanted to, in one single draw. Although this would run your atty very hot, it shows that there is no limit to how long one can draw on a e-cig.

Instead, try to increase the pressure you draw on, and keep to that consistently for about 8 secs as you inhale and exhale through your nose.

If you cannot inhale through your nose as you are drawing on your e-cig, than you are inhaling it directly into your lungs.

Focus on the stream of vapor hitting your tongue, is it consistent as you breathe through your nose?

Also taste the vapor as it hits your tongue and note its temperature as you are drawing in. If the flavor disappears, and it becomes cold, stop drawing and blow the vapor out of your mouth- don't inhale it. When the flavor/temperature drops it means that your atty is dry and it is burning off residue. It usually tastes very bad when you inhale it, always have your tongue ready to taste the vapor as it leaves the cart and into your mouth.

At first you may not notice the difference and temp/taste but after a while this becomes a sixth sense to vapers.

I hope this helps everyone. If you are doing it the way that I am, congrats you are now a pro vaper!
 
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mouth inhalers take the smoke into their mouths then almost instant down into the lungs.. if i smoked cigars i took it down into the lungs exactly like with a cigarette.. it all ends up in the lungs with me..

i now e smoke in a double mouthfull way.. suck as much into my mouth as i can... its only so big... he he.. part inhale just to empty my mouth then take another mouthfull.. then fully and deeply inhale the double mouthfull.. then slowly exhale large clouds of vapour part thru my nose and part thru my mouth..

i look like i am surrounded with clouds of vapour when i do it this way..

it can be done with three full mouthfuls if you really want to maximize the effect... three deep draws all in the lungs at once.. try it.. three in at once is good for the heady feeling... he he

if each draw last 4 seconds we are talking a 12 second draw all in the lungs at once.. this is with a manual switch device... i dont normally do three.. two is my norm.. but with two we are talking an 8 second draw all going in the lungs at once.. the bottom line being useing real nicotine strength 24 mg and above juice its possible to well overdose on these thing if you want to.. assuming you have one that works..
that is the way I do it too, but I don't really get clouds. I have the m201 and wonder if it's to weak or something. I seem satisfied with the nic level, but more vaper coming out would be nice.
 
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