HOW has the Provari not been cloned?

[NiNi]

Could it be Just the name itself Provari? Maybe people just buy the name ? There are a lot of same shaped units out there that do the same thing ...hmm maybe people just buy the name..Like Levi or Coke well not coke there is just one Coke..

I didn't buy for the "Brand Name", it just had all the things I wanted. I didn't buy the starter kit, just the standard polished with the extension cap with the 5% discount from whatever sale was going on. I had all of the other stuff, including the PT2's, which I no longer use, the charger, Nolax (spell?), batteries.
My silver iTaste 134 ran somewhere between $110 and $150 (can't remember!) and came with an awesome box (almost like an anvil case), a beauty ring and a iClear30, <---which totally sucks. It was basically a "igottahaveitit'ssocool" buy. VW, and found myself running it at 6.5w with my 1.0 ohm coils in the PT2's, anything beyond that seemed to burn the juice. Even a stock 2.2ohm Kanger head, burned juice.
eVic MSR is $149, it was a good learning curve cause I found I didn't like VW and the screen is ridiculous, TMI!!!
It took months to pull the trigger on the Provari, while I continued to collect other mods. But it was the quality, consistency, and the warranty with in house repairs that pushed me over to the dark side.

It's the way ProVape backs it's product, which I guess the 2 are synonymous.

 

[vapomike]

I love when I get to read comments that sound just like me before I got to see & feel & vape a Provari.

I hope you can try one soon man. Until then, keep on using the "behind the times" line I guess.

I did try it and we hung outside the shop for 30 minutes while we traded devices and discussed different juices. No offense to you or anyone that read this. But do you people actually read what people write? You just write off anyone that says anything negative about a provari as someone who hasn't used the device. I stayed out of it until now because I hadn't tried one. My expectations might have been set too high because of what I had read here on the forum, but it was pretty much the same vape once I got the voltage set right. Maybe that jumping to oh you haven't tried it, haven't touched it, or had it in your hands is where the fanboy rep comes from.

 

[bulldog63h]

Funny. I have not had a single issue with any of my MVP's and i consider them acceptably reliable, accurate and quality given the price point.

I also think my $40 Zmax v3 is acceptably reliable, accurate and quality, as long as I don't overtighten the telescoping sections into the control board. A two dollar bottle of Noalox smooths the threads incredibly and removes a lot of the thread slop.

So I have three mods with 2 18650 batteries, for 20 dollars less than one ProVari without batteries.

Will any of these mods "out last" a Provari?....Nope, not even close. But they are very inexpensive to replace, and by spacing my usage across three. I have the ability to make them last quite a long time.

For the cost of a single Provari starter kit....I got Two MVP2's (with included Iclear 30 and Iclear 16), 1 Sigelei V3, 2 16850 batteries, A charger, and two Kayfun clones.

Like someone said, how you spend your money is my own business. But I will put up my MVP2 with a Kayfun Clone against any Provari with a Kanger Protank 2.

Just sayin....

I'm not saying Chinese mods aren't good. I love my SVD. They just haven't produced any with the overall quality of the Provari. The button on my SVD, after just one month of use, lost any tactile feedback. In other words, the button is mushy and doesnt fire every time.
Anything with a Kayfun beats anything with a Protank, so that's not a fair comparison at all.

 

[Plumes.91]

I dunno man. I been here 5-6 years. I jump to conclusions from experience, not out of ignorance. I think a lot of us know where the fanboyism comes from from experience. If you think it's behind the times because it doesn't have variable wattage, your completely entitled to your opinion man. Your post just reminded me of myself, before I got to try and own a Provari.

 

[dr g]

Haven't read the whole thread, but the answer is that it has been cloned. The Zmax is a clone of the Provari. To a certain extent the vamo was also.

 

[bulldog63h]

I had a Lambo that put out a flat enough signal to read without an oscilloscope. Comparable to the provari actually. Then, due to quality issues, I decided to buy the SVD. I had no clue about the "rattle snake" effect at that time. I could tell a difference in taste. The SVD was a bit harsh compared. Not much of a difference, but I'm a super taster. I did get used to it fairly quickly and adjusted the voltage to make it suitable. That's not the main reason I bought a Provari though. I bought it because I'm the kind of person who could f up an anvil with a rubber mallet, and because it was my first love in the vape world. A guy let me use his a few years ago in the waiting room at the VA. At that time, all I had known was the Ego with the tank atomizer and the regular atomizer with the pollyfill cartridge. He gave me the newest thing at that time, a CE2. That should tell you how long ago this was.
As far as Provape being "behind the times" they still sell extremely well. Why should they feel the need to change? They know their market and understand the lack of VW is a deal breaker for some. For those people, there are other options. If Provari's start to decline in sales, I'm sure Provape will make a change. Until then, they provide what their customers want.

 

[KenD]

Very little actual discussion going on here. Just s-loads of annoying pro-/anti-provari s... going on. Very few vv/vw mods get cloned, plenty of mechs do. Original upper market mechs are hard to get. They are primarily distinguished by their design = low cost clones are viable. Regulated mods are bought for their functions = no point in making a 1 to 2 copy

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[SamNapolitanke]

Oh Gawd... This thread is still going on? Dudes the Provari is awesome get over it. Nothing anyone can say is going to make it less awesome. Call the marketing director for Harley D. He will explain. I did not buy a yamaha either.

 

[Smoot]

A kayfun on a Zmax V3 or MVP is going to kill a Protank on a Provari.

Do ya think????....... A dirty diaper on a Zmax V3 would taste better than a protank on a provari in my opinion, so I guess I'm confused by your analogy.
However, I do know a Russian 91% on a provari DOES kill a Russian 91% on a Zmax V3. Currently doing it right now if you're curious.......

 

[bulldog63h]

Very little actual discussion going on here. Just s-loads of annoying pro-/anti-provari s... going on. Very few vv/vw mods get cloned, plenty of mechs do. Original upper market mechs are hard to get. They are primarily distinguished by their design = low cost clones are viable. Regulated mods are bought for their functions = no point in making a 1 to 2 copy

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No one's forcing you to keep reading them. You're doing that of your own volition. There has been plenty of discussion based on the original question. The discussion has shifted due to the fact that all reasonable suggestions have been made as to why there aren't any 1:1 Provari copies out there and the fact that people love to hate the Provari and Provari owners.

 

[ScottP]

Do ya think????....... A dirty diaper on a Zmax V3 would taste better than a protank on a provari in my opinion, so I guess I'm confused by your analogy.
However, I do know a Russian 91% on a provari DOES kill a Russian 91% on a Zmax V3. Currently doing it right now if you're curious.......

The ONLY difference between the power provided by a Provari and any other regulated device is the "cleanness" created by the increased frequency of the chip. However, NOTHING can possibly be cleaner than pulling power straight off the battery. Personally I cannot tell any difference in vape quality between my SVD and pulling straight from the battery. So I just cannot justify dropping $200 based on pure faith that goes against logic an personal observation.

 

[p.opus]

Do ya think????....... A dirty diaper on a Zmax V3 would taste better than a protank on a provari in my opinion, so I guess I'm confused by your analogy.
However, I do know a Russian 91% on a provari DOES kill a Russian 91% on a Zmax V3. Currently doing it right now if you're curious.......

I was simply dispelling the rumor that a ProVari is somehow magically responsible for a good vape. The Provari is a well built and accurate device, but your topper plays a much greater role than your mod.

If someone were choosing between a high quality topper or a ProVari then get the topper first. That's all I was saying

 

[Smoot]

The ONLY difference between the power provided by a Provari and any other regulated device is the "cleanness" created by the increased frequency of the chip. However, NOTHING can possibly be cleaner than pulling power straight off the battery. Personally I cannot tell any difference in vape quality between my SVD and pulling straight from the battery. So I just cannot justify dropping $200 based on pure faith that goes against logic an personal observation.

Well the SVD is something I have not used so I can't compare anything to it.
Faith and logic don't override my taste buds so personal observation's are all I have...sorry

 

[bulldog63h]

I was simply dispelling the rumor that a ProVari is somehow magically responsible for a good vape. The Provari is a well built and accurate device, but your topper plays a much greater role than your mod.

If someone were choosing between a high quality topper or a ProVari then get the topper first. That's all I was saying

I agree. The Provari, vape quality wise, is only as good as the topper you put on it. I needed something built like a tank because, to be honest, I've broken a tank. Specifically, one of these.

 

[Smoot]

I was simply dispelling the rumor that a ProVari is somehow magically responsible for a good vape. The Provari is a well built and accurate device, but your topper plays a much greater role than your mod.

If someone were choosing between a high quality topper or a ProVari then get the topper first. That's all I was saying

I can notice a difference. Don't know how or why, just do....one is better, one is less-better
If they were equal, I would say it. But there is a difference. Whatever magic it is, I like it..

 

[DPLongo22]

I had a SVD for a while. It was good. Not "as good" though.

Say what you will (naysayers) but I agree with Smoot; I notice the difference too. For me, my four top mods are all different from the lower tiered ones I have or have had. They're also basically equal to one-and-others in the group.

All are good, but The Four are better. Provari is (obviously) in that group of four, or I wouldn't be typing this here.

 

[p.opus]

I am not dispelling your experience. My experience with a ProVari was trying someone elses.

However, I am aware of a significant placebo effect that occurs in which people automatically assume something is better because they paid more for it or it's a well recognized brand.

There is something to be said for the fact that you KNOW going in, you are vaping a ProVari, you expect it to be better, and so it becomes a self fulfilling condition.

My MVP has the a flat signal like the ProVari. My V3 is a 33hz chipset. And quite frankly I can't taste the difference. I paid the same amount for the MVP and the V3. I did see the reviews on each, so I knew going in that the MVP had the "flat signal" that everyone says is better. Yet I could not tell a difference at all.

Like I said, it would be interesting if a double blind "taste" test were performed where the only thing that changed was the mod, and the taster had no idea which product they were vaping.

That's not going to happen of course....

But of all the over $100.00 devices I might be looking to buy, the ProVari is on a very short list for me (Protovapor XPV, ProVari, iTaste 134 mini.)

 

[jrs99]

Have a Provari and had an MVP. The MVP was ugly, bulky and cheap feeling and totally turned me off on box mods. Charge your cell phone with your vape? No thanks, don't care, it's gimmicky at best. I don't need a Swiss Army knife, jack of all trades, master of none device. I'd rather my cell phone die before my vapestick. I gave the MVP to a new vapor to get him started and never missed it.

Provari is a tank and built to last. If your happy with your whatever, then more power to ya.
I didn't buy the Provari as some form of status symbol, I bought it because I wanted a rock solid vapestick that was the best at what it does, which it is.
VV vs VW? Don't know, don't care, I never tried VW as I went from my Ego starter kit to a Provari to mechanicals.
No desire for a ZNA or any other regulated mods since I have my Provari and it doesn't do much now except checks for shorts and measures ohms any ways. It just sits in my rack but it ain't going anywhere.
You think your device is better, I think mine is.
Can't we all just get along?

 

[bulldog63h]

The XPVis crazy looking. I'd love to see one in person.

 

[bulldog63h]

Have a Provari and had an MVP. The MVP was ugly, bulky and cheap feeling and totally turned me off on box mods. Charge your cell phone with your vape? No thanks, don't care, it's gimmicky at best. I don't need a Swiss Army knife, jack of all trades, master of none device. I'd rather my cell phone die before my vapestick. I gave the MVP to a new vapor to get him started and never missed it.

Provari is a tank and built to last. If your happy with your whatever, then more power to ya.
I didn't buy the Provari as some form of status symbol, I bought it because I wanted a rock solid vapestick that was the best at what it does, which it is.
VV vs VW? Don't know, don't care, I never tried VW as I went from my Ego starter kit to a Provari to mechanicals.
No desire for a ZNA or any other regulated mods since I have my Provari and it doesn't do much now except checks for shorts and measures ohms any ways. It just sits in my rack but it ain't going anywhere.
You think your device is better, I think mine is.
Can't we all just get along?

We could but that would just be boring.