How many Proteus do you plan on making?

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ManniGfaltig

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Do you plan a maximum power, or is it simply 7*4 = 28 W ?

With the max. discharge rate of 4A of an AW 14500 you won't reach 7V/4A as you need additional energy to boost from lets say 3.6V to 7V (3.6 cause the battery will break down under that heavy load).
Personally I aim towards 3.2-3.6V/2A coils that give me a some runtime and the ability to tune around a bit. Still I haven't lost the hope for some GG battery :p
 

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I vape 0.9ohm Dual Coil @ 4.2V with fresh AW IMR which is pushing 19.6watts... or I run 2.5ohm to 3ohm @ 8.4v with fresh AW IMR which is pushing between 23.52 to 28.224watts... So I guess I am way out of the normal spectrum from what your saying... but boy is it at close to an analog as I have gotten thus far

I tried that 0.9 ohm setup and man,its strong.
 
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With the max. discharge rate of 4A of an AW 14500 you won't reach 7V/4A as you need additional energy to boost from lets say 3.6V to 7V (3.6 cause the battery will break down under that heavy load).
Personally I aim towards 3.2-3.6V/2A coils that give me a some runtime and the ability to tune around a bit. Still I haven't lost the hope for some GG battery :p

Yes, I was wondering which accu is able to manage this enormous 7V/4A setup.
Good idea to hope for GG batteries.
 

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I cut the current when 4 amperes go via battery pii. Thats the limit on proteus and nothing else. I dont want a software to tell me what I have to do to vape. I just cut the current at 4 amperes because its a high amount of current for all our needs and its the limit for a short cirquit too.
I was thinking of this more than 8 months because I found that other e-cigs couldnt deliver the right amount of current. But unfortunately I am not close to electronic sourses so the delay was very big
 
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I cut the current when 4 amperes go via battery pii. Thats the limit on proteus and nothing else. I dont want a software to tell me what I have to do to vape. I just cut the current at 4 amperes because its a high amount of current for all our needs and its the limit for a short cirquit too.
I was thinking of this more than 8 months because I found that other e-cigs couldnt deliver the right amount of current. But unfortunately I am not close to electronic sourses so the delay was very big

Imeo,

understand - thanks. Sounds that you simply go for the max the battery can provide.
So just the best batteries are good enough for Proteus (I guess thats AW today).
Any comment on ManniGfaltig's idea for GG batteries ?
 

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Guys, things are like this:

when we vape at 3,7 volts or 4,2 volts or anything between those volts with a single no boosted battery and a wire at 2 ohm resistance the watts are: 3,7*3,7/2=6,8 watts and the current that battery gives and go to the atomizer is: 3,7/2=1,85 amperes

When we vape more than 3,7 volts (like 5 volts for example) then the watts are: 5*5/2=12,5 watts and the current via atomizer is: 5/2=2,5 ampere. But the amperes that the boosted battery has to give is bigger. Its: 12,5/3,7=3,37 ampere.

That means that if a battery can give 4 amperes max current and its boosted then the current via atomizer will be lower.

So to understand in simple words what that means, with PP we can vape a 1,5 ohm wire at 4,7 volts max with no problem or 2,4 ohm at 6 volts max or 3,7 ohm at 7,4 volts max
 
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We have to use only imr AW 14500 batteries on PP. As for the GG batteries, I have an idea about them but its too soon right now buddy:)
Imeo,

understand - thanks. Sounds that you simply go for the max the battery can provide.
So just the best batteries are good enough for Proteus (I guess thats AW today).
Any comment on ManniGfaltig's idea for GG batteries ?
 

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If you want to see what can you safely vape with PP please download this excel sheet


boosted battery.xls


Imeo,

that is really helpfull.
I currently work with 2 Ohm resistance, with the 14500 that gives me max 2.7 amps on the atomizer @ (ca) 15 W.
If I want to have higher amps I need to reduce my resistance.

Best regards,
pii
 

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whats your view on the new Li-Mangan batteries like Sony US14500V ?
It gives 5A current, 680mAh and as it is a Li-Mangan accu it doesn't require a PCB protection.

Sounds like it's just an IMR battery (IMR batteries' chemistry is lithium-manganese). Since the electronics of Proteus will be of a "boost" nature, those would be a good choice
 
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