I would like to know vaping what mg at what amount would be equal to a pack of say marlboro or newport anologs. (ballpark)???
how much equals a pack of anonlogs
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That's a hard one to nail down because of a lot of variables. Depending on the model of PV, some cartridges hold more e-juice than others. If you vape at a higher voltage you will use more. And the biggest variable would be an individuals vaping habits/methods whether it be direct drip or straight carts or tailpiping or any other way.
My only experience has been with a KR808D-1 and my Joye510. With my 510 I will use approximately 2 to 2.5 ml of e-juice per day and that's vaping pretty much all day - maybe what I might compare to 1 to 1.5 packs of analogs. And this is using e-juice that is about 12-15 mg strength. With my KR8 I used about 2 cartos a day, and I estimated that each of those cartomizers would equal about 3/4 of a pack of analogs.
For me anyway, anything above 18mg or so is just too strong and it irritates my throat too much. That's why I mix my own juices and use VG (thinned out with either water or Vodka) as much as possible.
My only experience has been with a KR808D-1 and my Joye510. With my 510 I will use approximately 2 to 2.5 ml of e-juice per day and that's vaping pretty much all day - maybe what I might compare to 1 to 1.5 packs of analogs. And this is using e-juice that is about 12-15 mg strength. With my KR8 I used about 2 cartos a day, and I estimated that each of those cartomizers would equal about 3/4 of a pack of analogs.
For me anyway, anything above 18mg or so is just too strong and it irritates my throat too much. That's why I mix my own juices and use VG (thinned out with either water or Vodka) as much as possible.
Thanks Shortstuff116 but,
I'm looking for more of a mathamatical answer that is on the exact amount that equals a pack of anologs. There must be an equation like 3 ml's of 24mg equals a pack. Anybody know what this may be so I can know approxamately how much I'm vaping a day not just ML's of fluid but equaling a pack of anologs... Thanks,, someone??
I'm looking for more of a mathamatical answer that is on the exact amount that equals a pack of anologs. There must be an equation like 3 ml's of 24mg equals a pack. Anybody know what this may be so I can know approxamately how much I'm vaping a day not just ML's of fluid but equaling a pack of anologs... Thanks,, someone??
Depends on the strength of the liquid you are using and how you vape.
I generally estimate that I got about 1 mg of nic from each cigarette. So IF I'm vaping 11 mg liquid and IF my dropper bottle gives 20 drops per ml I would estimate that two drops would be about equivalent to one cigarette. So two ml would be about a pack.
BUT this is dependent on how you smoked and how you vape. If you really smoked the entire cigarette you would get more nicotine than someone who let it spend more time sitting in the ashtray. And someone who takes lots of primer puffs is going to need more e-liquid to actually get 1 mg of nicotine than someone who doesn't use them at all.
You need to determine what estimates work for your own style.
I generally estimate that I got about 1 mg of nic from each cigarette. So IF I'm vaping 11 mg liquid and IF my dropper bottle gives 20 drops per ml I would estimate that two drops would be about equivalent to one cigarette. So two ml would be about a pack.
BUT this is dependent on how you smoked and how you vape. If you really smoked the entire cigarette you would get more nicotine than someone who let it spend more time sitting in the ashtray. And someone who takes lots of primer puffs is going to need more e-liquid to actually get 1 mg of nicotine than someone who doesn't use them at all.
You need to determine what estimates work for your own style.
I have this saved in a email to myself posted from somewhere by another member. Hope it helps.
In round figures here it is: one real cig. is 1 mg. of nicotine, so one pack is 20 mg. At 20 mg. per ml., you can vape one ml. to equal one pack of smokes. It's pretty easy. So, 2 ml. per day is about equal to 2 packs of cigs. So, a 10 ml. bottle should last 5 days. You should consume 60 ml. per month. That's it...put simply. Incidentally, 1 ml. is equal to about 20 drops, so one drop approx. equals one cig. See, it doesn't matter if you top off or how often, just watch your overall daily consumption.
In round figures here it is: one real cig. is 1 mg. of nicotine, so one pack is 20 mg. At 20 mg. per ml., you can vape one ml. to equal one pack of smokes. It's pretty easy. So, 2 ml. per day is about equal to 2 packs of cigs. So, a 10 ml. bottle should last 5 days. You should consume 60 ml. per month. That's it...put simply. Incidentally, 1 ml. is equal to about 20 drops, so one drop approx. equals one cig. See, it doesn't matter if you top off or how often, just watch your overall daily consumption.
I find these calculations to be inaccurate. The problem in the comparison is the way that analogs deliver the nicotine compared to e-cigs. I find it much easier to lay down the e-cig compared to analogs. I can not vape all day and be fine, but I had a much harder time doing that with analogs. I think the amount of nicotine really delivered between the two differ greatly.
I have this saved in a email to myself posted from somewhere by another member. Hope it helps.
In round figures here it is: one real cig. is 1 mg. of nicotine, so one pack is 20 mg. At 20 mg. per ml., you can vape one ml. to equal one pack of smokes. It's pretty easy. So, 2 ml. per day is about equal to 2 packs of cigs. So, a 10 ml. bottle should last 5 days. You should consume 60 ml. per month. That's it...put simply. Incidentally, 1 ml. is equal to about 20 drops, so one drop approx. equals one cig. See, it doesn't matter if you top off or how often, just watch your overall daily consumption.
Actually, the analog has 1.4 to 1.9 mgs of nicotine per cigarette.... Regardless of whether it is a full, light, or ultra-light. A lot of smokers misconstrue that the Light and ultra-light mean that the analog will contain less nicotine.. This is not the case, light and ultra-light refer to the additives in the analog that reference flavor as in full flavor or light flavor.
Each pack of analogs contains roughly 28 to 36 mgs of nicotine...( The difference here being brand, manufacturer, and added flavors like menthol and fruit/candy flavors which lower the nicotine concentration) but due to the absorbtion rate of smoking an analog to our bodies being 88% and further, evaporation of a portion of the analog while we are not dragging on it.... which constitutes 5 to 10 percent on top of the 88%.. Therefore, cutting the actual range of our absorbtion to 20-28 mgs of nicotine relative to the amount we smoked.
I would say that it is fair to compare 1ml of juice to a pack of analogs... the actual is finite at 1.4 mls.. and the standard daily consumption that is suggested to be within reason is 3 mls., even though unofficial studies point out that vaping actual has an absorbtion rate above 90%. The only difference here is that we are not only tricking our bodies off the nicotine effect of analogs... but there are several additives in an analog that the body grows a tolerance to and craves. Ammonia to name one!!! This is why a lot start oin the high side of nic... Say 24 and 36 mg.. and then, most of those folks try to find a happy place at the median.. Say, 11 to 18 mgs for a while til they level out.... and continue further for some but everyone has their individual style and reason for vaping... These things you will have to develop for yourself, like a little program and go from there!!
Thank you for posting this. I looked and looked for one of your post and have seen them where you explain this stuff many times. Thanks again.
So I assume you are saying 2 ml= 1 pk of cigarettes. What does 36 mg of eliquid equal to for ml=to pk cigarettes.
Thank you for posting this. I looked and looked for one of your post and have seen them where you explain this stuff many times. Thanks again.
Your welcome... when I first got into vaping .. this was one of the main questions that I had and I would have to admit that I had a lot of trouble myself getting the answers.
There are not a lot of studies on the e-cig yet but through clarifying several different documents that I researched and a wealth of information from several different areas of expertise... This is the outcome that makes the most sense to me. I have come across a lot of sites; i.e. vendors and mixer sites that say that 3 mls is the safe ground and a simple ceiling, if you will. Their claims are that based on average usage and analog consumption at around 1 to 2 packs a day... 3 mls of juice just about is the norm that most moderate vapers hover around. As for quantity, 3 mls does equate to the median level of nic at 1.5 per analog... at 20 analogs, your consumption rate would be exact. So, to judge best, the usual one pack a day smoker would fit best here... whereas, a heavy two packer might have a better time at 6 mls.... and my usual recommendation would be to start vaping as low a level of nicotine you can get away with to fight the craving. If it takes 18.. stick there for a while and eventually lower your nic over time. If it takes 24, the same. The two packer and above .... back to recommendation, I think it best to stay around that 3 ml mark, 4 at most. It would be better to raise your nic mg/ml to 24 - 48 mg mark and simply monitor your intake.
Remeber, initially starting to vape takes away a lot of additional additives that the analog has in it ... Once you bounce the curve where you no-longer carry the tolerances for those additional additives... ( Most likely a month or two.. It is different for everyone but at least two weeks by average.. ) Then, It will become a lot easier to start gradually decreasing your nicotine levels and you will start leveling out to the point where you find your median range and find it not so hard to regulate the amount in mls that you are using each day.
Anyway, thats my $0.02 worth and I just like to give back when I get the chance.. This site has helped me stick with it and all the help here just makes it worth participating.
Tom
In my research "Off this site" per a doctor: 1 cig=10mg of nic. approx: 10% is actually absorbed.
So about 1mg per cig of a Marlboro Red. (I have actually read "1mg" on advertizments.) This is probably average, and pulling it away from your mouth more than just sucking on the thing every breath(, I assume).
I was an ultra-light smoker, 1-1.5 packs a day. I am GREAT with 11-18mg eLiquid, yet I use it more than I should and get WAY more than I need(, to much in fact). I have to cut everything down to about 6-9mg because it is so convenient, and I LOVED to smoke, and now can't get enough vapor.
So about 1mg per cig of a Marlboro Red. (I have actually read "1mg" on advertizments.) This is probably average, and pulling it away from your mouth more than just sucking on the thing every breath(, I assume).
I was an ultra-light smoker, 1-1.5 packs a day. I am GREAT with 11-18mg eLiquid, yet I use it more than I should and get WAY more than I need(, to much in fact). I have to cut everything down to about 6-9mg because it is so convenient, and I LOVED to smoke, and now can't get enough vapor.
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The OP would do well the read this
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/dvap/359-getting-mg-right-model.html
This is a blog entry by DVap who has done some good studies on e-liquid. Go over the numbers and you should be able to find the amount and strength of e-liquid you need to equal what you smoked.
Vaping is not 100% efficient. Current thought is that it's about 40%.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/dvap/359-getting-mg-right-model.html
This is a blog entry by DVap who has done some good studies on e-liquid. Go over the numbers and you should be able to find the amount and strength of e-liquid you need to equal what you smoked.
Vaping is not 100% efficient. Current thought is that it's about 40%.
Do youn use Pg base or VG base??? I can tell you that VG is a little thicker and creates way more vapor... Low level nic.. now , I don't know what to tell you to get more of a throat hit with low levels if that is what you are after... But, If it is... I can only recommend two things!!!
1. Get some flavor doublers in cinnamon or coriander... Take a batch of the Tobacco flavor that you like and use a empty 5ml bottle. Pour about 2.5 mls of the tobacco flavor juice in there ( you might want to get some of the tobacco in zero nic to add too.. just to kick the flavor a little and I would recommend you start with 10 mg nic because the added combination will lower the nic back to 6 mg. ) Ok... Now add, I'll go with cinnamon... .5 ml of the cinnamon to the 2.5 ml of your juice. ( If the cinnamon is an oil base flavoring then you may need to add two drops of vodka, PGA, absynthe, or everclear to it.. Let it sit for ten minutes to emulsify and then, add it to your juice. ) Get you some VG or 50/50 PG/VG, and add .5 of that to your mix. Now, this should render you some kicka%$ taste and vapor at the same time.
2. You can do a test batch to see if this works for you. Take your juice, put 3 mls of it in an empty dropper bottle... Add two drops of your prefered alcohol per ml of juice..( vodka,PGA,everclear, or absynthe- any at 80 proof ) So, that would be six drops in this case. for every drop of alcohol that you put in... back that up with a drop of VG... This should also kick the vap production and again ... I would recommend with this that you add a drop of your 6 mg juice for every drop that you add of alcohol and VG.. so 12 drops should level you out back to the original nicotine level.
My head hurts.^ I use percentage. Say 25% nic, 25% VG, 25%PG/PGA/distilled water and 25% flavor. I have no idea how to figure out how much e-liquid=pack of analogs. I just found that I like it around 25-36mg to keep me happy and off nastys.
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If you have not yet, I would take a look at the link that stubby posted. For me it seems to be right on track. Do not forget also that there are other things in cigarettes that your body will crave besides nicotine and most likely there will be some type of withdrawal symptoms even if you are getting enough nicotine.
LOL - I love reading all of these!
As I read them I remain convinced that you can't simply equate vaping to smoking. It is my firm belief that you will find your level for vaping in time. You will find what frequency of vaping and what level of nicotine is best for you.
There are several problems in trying to equate vaping to smoking. First and foremost there are so many more variables in vaping! We have liquids of various strengths and bunches of different PVs. Each one is going to deliver a different amount of nicotine.
Most people get around 12 puffs off of a cigarette - so you could say that however much liquid is used by your PV to provide 12 puffs would be equivalent to one cigarette. That is regardless of the nicotine level!
And if you want to consider the actual nicotine in your system you would have to account for absorption rates, how you smoked your cigarettes, and what strength liquid you are using. There is simply NO easy answer to this question!
Regardless of where you end up, you will always be better off than if you were smoking as much as you did before! It doesn't really matter if you quit smoking altogether or if you vape constantly or anything else. As long as you are vaping instead of smoking some of the time you are going to suffer fewer health risks.
As I read them I remain convinced that you can't simply equate vaping to smoking. It is my firm belief that you will find your level for vaping in time. You will find what frequency of vaping and what level of nicotine is best for you.
There are several problems in trying to equate vaping to smoking. First and foremost there are so many more variables in vaping! We have liquids of various strengths and bunches of different PVs. Each one is going to deliver a different amount of nicotine.
Most people get around 12 puffs off of a cigarette - so you could say that however much liquid is used by your PV to provide 12 puffs would be equivalent to one cigarette. That is regardless of the nicotine level!
And if you want to consider the actual nicotine in your system you would have to account for absorption rates, how you smoked your cigarettes, and what strength liquid you are using. There is simply NO easy answer to this question!
Regardless of where you end up, you will always be better off than if you were smoking as much as you did before! It doesn't really matter if you quit smoking altogether or if you vape constantly or anything else. As long as you are vaping instead of smoking some of the time you are going to suffer fewer health risks.
I used to smoke 1.5 packs (lights) per day, and now vape about 1.5 ml per day.
So, for me, 1 ml = 1 pack. This is 26 mg juice using a 510 and 801.
So, for me, 1 ml = 1 pack. This is 26 mg juice using a 510 and 801.
LOL - I love reading all of these!
As I read them I remain convinced that you can't simply equate vaping to smoking. It is my firm belief that you will find your level for vaping in time. You will find what frequency of vaping and what level of nicotine is best for you.
There are several problems in trying to equate vaping to smoking. First and foremost there are so many more variables in vaping! We have liquids of various strengths and bunches of different PVs. Each one is going to deliver a different amount of nicotine.
Most people get around 12 puffs off of a cigarette - so you could say that however much liquid is used by your PV to provide 12 puffs would be equivalent to one cigarette. That is regardless of the nicotine level!
And if you want to consider the actual nicotine in your system you would have to account for absorption rates, how you smoked your cigarettes, and what strength liquid you are using. There is simply NO easy answer to this question!
Regardless of where you end up, you will always be better off than if you were smoking as much as you did before! It doesn't really matter if you quit smoking altogether or if you vape constantly or anything else. As long as you are vaping instead of smoking some of the time you are going to suffer fewer health risks.
Great post. I couldn't agree more.
This whole time I'm reading this thread I'm just like, "Who cares?".
Vaping =/= smoking. And trying to figure out the amount of nicotine you are getting and how much is equivalent to one cigarette will just make your head hurt.
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