How safe is 48mg e juice?

[SchmidtyKy]

I'm absurd, too. Been vaping 24mg for a year and a half straight with no intentions of going lower. Have been tempted to go higher because I'm a nicotine fiend and I want to smoke/vape all the time. But extra nicotine seems to adversely affect the flavor of liquid (at least anything above 24mg).

I actually enjoy the flavor more from 12mg juice, but I just can't vape that low. It tastes good, but there's no hit. I'm a throat hit junkie, and because of that , 24mg is my friend. I'm so absurd!

I have heard of people vaping 36 and 48mg. I say if you are curious to go ahead and try it. I wouldn't drip it though, but put it in a tank. If it satisfies your cravings and you find yourself not chain vaping as much, maybe it will work for you.

You know your body better than anyone. If you notice that you don't feel good while vaping at 48mg, just trust your instincts/common sense. Gotta do what's right for you.

Or try stepping up just a little bit at a time. Try mixing 2 parts of 24mg and 1 part 48mg of the same juice to vape 32mg.

It takes a lot of tinkering to find what hits the spot for you. Or at least it did for me. Good luck!

Oh, and right now I am enjoying White Walker from Seduce Juice at 24mg in a ProTank. I'm kind of a basic vaper, but it works for me.

 

[Niteowl71]

I agree with this, going from an Aspire ET-S to a Nautilus I had to drop my nic from 18mg to 12mg or it was too harsh.

Right now it all boils down to the $$$$ I would love to be able to get my MVP 20w with a Nautilus tank but its not in my budget right now.

 

[Niteowl71]

A word of advice, if you go with the ProTank 2 grab and Aerotank Airflow base with it. The design of the base with the PT2 sucks but when you add the Aerobase it works pretty great IMHO. They cost like 3 bucks online.

That's what my plan is I've read a lot where it suggested to do that

 

[Niteowl71]

This. I've been vaping for a year and a half now, with spells of relapse, and have gone from 24mg (where I started) up to 36mg and now drip with 4-8mg. What has not changed is the amount I vape. If it is convineint (and often when it really isn't) I have my ecig in my hand, puffing away.

A good way to tell if you're actually getting enough nicotine or not would be to see if you can set down your ecig and go off and do a task or activity in the same amount of time you would normally wait inbetween cigarettes. I still chain vape for the most part, but I can set it down and ignore it for 2 hours without any real discomfort or change, and 4 or 5 without getting irritated or starting to go into mild nic withdrawal.

I've caught myself always grabbing for it when I'm doing things, like when I'm cooking, Sunday when I was watching the Packers Seahawk game it was glued to my hand and lips especially towards the end when The Packs were loosing

 

[Niteowl71]

I'm absurd, too. Been vaping 24mg for a year and a half straight with no intentions of going lower. Have been tempted to go higher because I'm a nicotine fiend and I want to smoke/vape all the time. But extra nicotine seems to adversely affect the flavor of liquid (at least anything above 24mg).

I actually enjoy the flavor more from 12mg juice, but I just can't vape that low. It tastes good, but there's no hit. I'm a throat hit junkie, and because of that , 24mg is my friend. I'm so absurd!

I have heard of people vaping 36 and 48mg. I say if you are curious to go ahead and try it. I wouldn't drip it though, but put it in a tank. If it satisfies your cravings and you find yourself not chain vaping as much, maybe it will work for you.

You know your body better than anyone. If you notice that you don't feel good while vaping at 48mg, just trust your instincts/common sense. Gotta do what's right for you.

Or try stepping up just a little bit at a time. Try mixing 2 parts of 24mg and 1 part 48mg of the same juice to vape 32mg.

It takes a lot of tinkering to find what hits the spot for you. Or at least it did for me. Good luck!

Oh, and right now I am enjoying White Walker from Seduce Juice at 24mg in a ProTank. I'm kind of a basic vaper, but it works for me.

I'm right there with you on all of that, right now I'm just using a cheap ego starter kit going from this to the iJoy 1300mah VV and either the Protank 2 or the Aspire ET is a step up for me.I'd love to have something fancier but the $ isn't there at the moment but its still cheaper than cigs.

 

[SchmidtyKy]

I'm right there with you on all of that, right now I'm just using a cheap ego starter kit going from this to the iJoy 1300mah VV and either the Protank 2 or the Aspire ET is a step up for me.I'd love to have something fancier but the $ isn't there at the moment but its still cheaper than cigs.

Yep. All my batteries are variable voltage, though. My favorite are the original Vision Spinners. I have a few of the Vision Spinner II's, but I feel they don't hit as hard as the originals.

I have an MVP also. I use it every now and again, but I just don't like the box shape.

I have a ProTank 2, but I like the original ProTank better. I'm stubborn like that.

 

[DeathBYzombieZ]

I'm right there with you on all of that, right now I'm just using a cheap ego starter kit going from this to the iJoy 1300mah VV and either the Protank 2 or the Aspire ET is a step up for me.I'd love to have something fancier but the $ isn't there at the moment but its still cheaper than cigs.

Sheesh. There's no way all that nicotine can be good for you. Thats si much more than cigarettes.

 

[man00ver]

Sheesh. There's no way all that nicotine can be good for you. Thats si much more than cigarettes.

Actually, when you're not smoking cigarettes, it appears that nicotine is good for you. Here's a couple articles for your edification:

Nicotine - Scientific Review on Usage, Dosage, Side Effects | Examine.com

Nicotine, the Wonder Drug? | DiscoverMagazine.com

 

[DaveP]

I vaped 24mg for a couple of years before I decided to go down to a lower nic level. I dropped to 18mg for a little while ... no issues. Then I dropped to 12mg, then 8mg. I finally stopped at 6mg just to keep a little nic in my system for therapeutic purposes. It's supposed to help with the brain and memory.

Each time I dropped the nic level I found myself vaping like a fiend for a few days, but that leveled out quickly. Once I got used to the drop, I went down in nic again. Never did I want a cigarette, though.

I ordered premixed juices that I could combine for the new nic level. I mixed equal parts of 12mg with my 24mg to make 18mg, for instance. That way, I didn't waste any juice during the step down.

 

[DeathBYzombieZ]

Actually, when you're not smoking cigarettes, it appears that nicotine is good for you. Here's a couple articles for your edification:

Nicotine - Scientific Review on Usage, Dosage, Side Effects | Examine.com

Nicotine, the Wonder Drug? | DiscoverMagazine.com

Meh, people will do anything to support their case and too much of anything is always bad.

 

[Niteowl71]

Sheesh. There's no way all that nicotine can be good for you. Thats si much more than cigarettes.

Yea but stop a think nothing is really good for you, drinking alcohol to much is bad for you, eating to much fat is bad for you, to much sugar intake is bad for you even some jobs are even bad for you but I will say this I'll take being able to wake up without hacking and being able to breath anytime even if I have to use higher amounts of nic...

 

[DeathBYzombieZ]

Yea but stop a think nothing is really good for you, drinking alcohol to much is bad for you, eating to much fat is bad for you, to much sugar intake is bad for you even some jobs are even bad for you but I will say this I'll take being able to wake up without hacking and being able to breath anytime even if I have to use higher amounts of nic...

Good point. But if this were alcohol the difference would be like me (3mg) drinking a beer and someone else (34mg) drinking really hard liquor. I'm just saying some people should watch their nicotine intake. For them and the people around them. Definitely shouldn't be vaping 34mg around your kids.

 

[Phild0]

DeathbyzombieZ...... Yeah, I vape 1.5 because my body was ready for it. If it takes 24, 36, or 48 for somebody to get off cigs, I say vape your brains out till you get it right!!!!! Calling people absurd for vaping higher mg of nic than you think is acceptable is absurd. Let people do what they want to do, it's called a CHOICE, and as an American, at this point, I still have a choice to vape whatever I want to. Go play with zombies, tell them they can't vape higher than 18mg of nic and report back how that goes.

 

[BlkWolfMidnight]

Its about as safe as sucking on an exhaust pipe...just a personal opinion.

Personally I use 2 sets of gloves when handling 48mg/ml nic and I ensure that not a single drop hits the floor as it could make my pets very ill. I really can't stress the gravity of the dangers of this high NIC level but as for vaping it if that's your thing then that's your thing.

If its hurting your throat to vape it then drop down in nic level's to resolve that.

 

[xxJollyRogerxx]

As suggested, use the level you need to stop lighting up! If that is 36 then it is what it is. To me that seems way too high ... but that is to "me" I use 12 and it works for me as I found 18 too high. You need what you need to stop the craving.
I use 100mg for my DIY and have gotten it on me quite a bit. Personally, I have never had any reaction in the slightest and i don't wear gloves. Just rinse it off.

 

[retired1]

Sheesh. There's no way all that nicotine can be good for you. Thats si much more than cigarettes.

Considering nicotine absorption is not even close when comparing vaping with smoking, claiming it's more than cigarettes is a stretch when compared between the two.

 

[Vatigu]

wow the personal opinions about nic are pretty extreme here. The LD50 of nicotine is already hotly contested.

"He has also found several references mentioning that the acute lethal dose in humans has been estimated to be 50-60mg. However, no proof was provided for such figures. He had to go back to the mid of the 19th century to find that the lethal dose came from self experiments of Austrian pharmacologists, who described really peculiar and unrealistic symptoms after ingesting just 1-4mg of nicotine. Therefore, reports based on dubious experiments and results 150 years ago are still reproduced today…

More interestingly, Prof Mayer reports that the lethal level of nicotine as measured in postmortem exams was 2mg/ml of blood, corresponding to 4mg/ml of plasma. Such levels would correspond to ingesting 500-1000mg of nicotine. This is 10-20 times higher levels that those “accepted” today.

There is no doubt that nicotine is toxic and can be lethal. However, the levels currently mentioned in the literature seem to be extremely low and unrealistic. Nicotine solutions should always be handled with care, but there is no reason to produce excessive fear or accept poor science in order to terrorize the public."
Nicotine lethal dose in humans: a common argument by regulatory authorities, based on poor science

Good luck actually ingesting/vaping 10ml of juice straight up at 48mg without vomiting.

To equate 48mg/ml with sucking on car exhaust is simply a ludicrous amount of hyperbole, the same kind of hyperbole that is being utilized by the media to influence public perception of ecigs.

 

[xxJollyRogerxx]

and the absorption rate via skin contact is even less than either

 

[BlkWolfMidnight]

To equate 48mg/ml with sucking on car exhaust is simply a ludicrous amount of hyperbole, the same kind of hyperbole that is being utilized by the media to influence public perception of ecigs.

Somewhat yes I agree however some require visual imagery to put it in to perspective (if you didn't know, Carbon Monoxide won't kill you right away either). As with science there are a lot of "if's" and "Maybe's" in your article and should something happen I do hope that your 100% accurate on the information provided. I error on the side of caution because somewhere, someone will actually try to push that limit and end up in the ER, you speak of media but how would it fare that this thread be pulled up, your name associated as well by a media company because someone tried to vape 30ml of 48mg nic liquid in one day. I'm personally not going to even say its safe more or else provide any fuel for this fire (Yes the "I saw it on...." argument)

It is well documented from hospital visits that nic OD has occurred handling 100mg nic before, it is known that it does absorb through the skin at what rate there isn't any defined rate but that I'm sure will be remedied here soon with the FDA breathing down our necks of lately and the vaping community as a whole. Please understand that I'm protecting the community as best as possible by trying to prevent possible issues before they have a chance of happening. We do a pretty good job of giving the media enough coverage as it is, no need to add something else to that list.

Ever wonder why a lot, majority of companies don't sell 48mg nic juice, it not hard to make and can be done, ask yourself this question then understand what I'm saying here. Typically use the lowest amount you can to get off then drop down if you like, or not (most do though), this way safety isn't an issue at all nor OD'ing a possibility. Not trying to be negative but I am being a realist, give people an RDA and you'll have them pushing the batteries to failure point, point in case proven time and time again.

 

[Niteowl71]

Good point. But if this were alcohol the difference would be like me (3mg) drinking a beer and someone else (34mg) drinking really hard liquor. I'm just saying some people should watch their nicotine intake. For them and the people around them. Definitely shouldn't be vaping 34mg around your kids.

True, point is to much of anything can be bad but some people can handle certine amounts diffrently and I can't see vaping around kids can be harmful the whole point about smoking around children was the intake of CO2 and tar. If vaping was that harmful then it would be banned in public places like tobacco but that's just my thought