Huge difference in 801 attys

[wv2win]

wv2win...

Scores of forum members are also reporting that the 'high bridge' 801 attys are terrible compared to the older low bridge versions. Forum members are also reporting that the BE112s are substandard, and that the protruding pieces of fiber glass wick material are yielding a wretched burnt taste which is very difficult to avoid.

My point here is this: simply asserting that because you yourself have not encountered these specific atomizer issues 'they must not exist' isn't really all that helpful. Are you sure the BE112s you've used are the same as mine? Can we be certain that a subtle change in manufacturing hasn't hampered the performance of recent batches? Of course, we can't.

I'm a big fan of working to control variables to improve my experience, and these particular variables need to be considered here. Blanket statements based on reckless assumptions only serve to mislead and frustrate. That's all. ;-)

Maybe I wasn't clear, if so, I'm sorry about that. My point is that when I and many others I have talked to or communicated with, use either the 801 or the BE112 (and I have about 60 of them bought pretty far apart), they work very well as long as you are using them with a better PV. I will agree that their performance will vary widely if you use them with, say a standard 801 penstyle PV. If you use them with the Prodigy they work great. Now I do agree that you can get a bad batch of attys. That's why I purchase mine from a supplier that gives a long warranty.

My main point is that in most cases it's not the atomizer that is the problem. It's the battery and switch that is attached to it. Do they lose some effectiveness over time from gunk build up? Yes. If I get a good month or two out of an atty, that's all I really expect. Now that I have found a good way to clean them, I'm getting about 3 months out of them and at $5 each which includes shipping, I really can't complain.

 

[LaterSkater]

wv2win - Where do you buy your 801/BE112 atomizers???

 

[wv2win]

wv2win - Where do you buy your 801/BE112 atomizers???

BE112's from www.bestecigs.com. 801's either Best or Ruyan Direct.

 

[quovadis]

I have 7 atty's that measure 0.00 ohms.

Are they definitely dead?

Shall i throw them away?

Or is there a way to revive them?

 

[DigDreams]

I have 7 atty's that measure 0.00 ohms.

Are they definitely dead?

Shall i throw them away?

Or is there a way to revive them?

0.0 = Dead for good. Trash 'em.

I have tried both high/low bridge models and I I am currently using one fom a TW 5 pack (low bridge). Here's my take: Low bridge = slightly harder draw, last longer. High-bridge = very light draw, more vapor, don't last as long.

The low bridge attys seem pretty consistent but I had a 3 pack of high-bridge where they all functioned differently. When a high-bridge works well it works really well, but they seem to be really hit & miss. I only tried one Jany atty and I hated it - it had a very hard draw and only lasted 2 days before it died (0.0).

 

[quovadis]

I just ordered a 5 pack from TW.
The puresmoker 801's are ok...nothing to write home about.

Best e cig...i bought 20 from them, and i do not like them at all.

Other than that the janty classic has been good to me but a little pricey.

If any of you find a good model or good supplier let me know and i will intervene with some serious cash!!!

 

[quovadis]

quovadis,

I thought you had 4 janty sticks?! Cant believe you are trying a Janty 801 atty for the first time! What did your janty sticks come with? I thought they were the 801/Penstyle, mine sure were. Anyway, its probably airflow, I have some 801s from another supplier that dont have the air holes in the threads.

Yes i have 4 JS...but never had good 801 atty's ...i had the low end janty atty.
Then one day Ethan sent me a classic atty (the $17 one) and i tried that on my prodigy and realized that atty's varied a lot.

I also have a T1 and a silver bullet...

I do not agree with that other fellow...i think atty's vary tremendously, and it's hit and miss.

 

[sattec]

0.0 = Dead for good. Trash 'em.

If you throw them away, instead of donating them to reasearch, we're never going to learn anything...ask around, before you throw them away, somebody may want them...Like if I had them, I'd pull out the coil and use them to test some cleaning fluids for atty's I'm trying to develop......just a thought

 

[quovadis]

If you throw them away, instead of donating them to reasearch, we're never going to learn anything...ask around, before you throw them away, somebody may want them...Like if I had them, I'd pull out the coil and use them to test some cleaning fluids for atty's I'm trying to develop......just a thought

you clever man!!!!!!!

 

[quovadis]

yeah but i'm embarrassed to offer 7 dead atty's to a deserving person.
So how to go about this?

 

[sattec]

just look around here and see who's trying to actually do something to eliminate a problem...I'll take 'em! Then send a pm to the "tester" and ask him if he wants them....if you really want to GAIN from his work, send 'em out at no cost to the "tester".

 

[RenaissancePuffer]

lol, quovadis you've had your share of dead atty's but I assure you there are others who have fare'd much worse!

Hey that's a good idea to send dead attys to someone who may be willing to do some research and what not. Perhaps make a post in the classified section.

As for me, I'm lucky, I've had 1 atty die in the past 6 weeks and it was likely due to user error, but it was covered under warranty. I have two right now that taste quite bad and I'm waiting for a good solution to cleaning it.

Until then!

 

[quovadis]

The first prodigy they sent me had a defective switch.
Once pressed it would not turn off.
7 atty's later, i figured out it was the defective button that caused this.

When i told puresmoker about this, they suggested i clean the atty's out and let them dry overnight.

They read 0.00 ohms ...i can clean em out till i'm blue in the face !!!!!!!!!!

 

[sattec]

I have two good formulas for cleaning atty's but I can't finish the test, I keep running out of dirty atty's for testing! I thought about sending the cleaner out to a buddy and let him test his atty's but now I have two different cleaners and not sure if I want to expose his atty's to testing if I'm not right there....I will tell everybody here and now...DO USE HYDROGEN PEROXIDE ANYMORE. It does a number on some solder and don't use isoproply acohol either (read the label), use vodka or everclear

 

[framitz]

I use BE112s and they are consistent solid performers as always.

 

[ladyraj]

Yes i have 4 JS...but never had good 801 atty's ...i had the low end janty atty.
Then one day Ethan sent me a classic atty (the $17 one) and i tried that on my prodigy and realized that atty's varied a lot.

I also have a T1 and a silver bullet...

I do not agree with that other fellow...i think atty's vary tremendously, and it's hit and miss.

If you have 4 Janty Sticks then you have 4 classic atomizers already. That is what is shipped with the kit.

 

[wv2win]

The first prodigy they sent me had a defective switch.
Once pressed it would not turn off.
7 atty's later, i figured out it was the defective button that caused this.

When i told puresmoker about this, they suggested i clean the atty's out and let them dry overnight.

They read 0.00 ohms ...i can clean em out till i'm blue in the face !!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to hear about your switch problem with the Prodigy. They should replace those atty's for you, IMO. I doubt they will, unfortunately.

I do agree with you that atty's vary within batch and from one manufactuer to another. I guess my main point is that possible problems with attys can also end up being a problem with the device it is used on.

I do think that "in general" the higher volt devices (5/6 volt manuals) reduce the amount of gunk built up by being more efficient and burning it off and vaporizing the liquid better which can prolong the life of a good atty.

I didn't do a good job of explaining myself. I think we are more in aggreement than disagreement.

 

[RenaissancePuffer]

I do think that "in general" the higher volt devices (5/6 volt manuals) reduce the amount of gunk built up by being more efficient and burning it off and vaporizing the liquid better which can prolong the life of a good atty.

That's an interesting thought.

As soon as I get my 801 connectors from Nerf, I'm going to be experimenting with home built 5V and 6V mods. I will keep those atty's dedicated to those PV's, and possibly use some of my bad tasting atty's in those as well, to see if it can restore the flavor.

 

[quovadis]

If you have 4 Janty Sticks then you have 4 classic atomizers already. That is what is shipped with the kit.

No
they sent me the cheap atty's with my janty sticks.
You are correct, they should have sent me the classic ones.

 

[quovadis]

Sorry to hear about your switch problem with the Prodigy. They should replace those atty's for you, IMO. I doubt they will, unfortunately.

I do agree with you that atty's vary within batch and from one manufactuer to another. I guess my main point is that possible problems with attys can also end up being a problem with the device it is used on.

I do think that "in general" the higher volt devices (5/6 volt manuals) reduce the amount of gunk built up by being more efficient and burning it off and vaporizing the liquid better which can prolong the life of a good atty.

I didn't do a good job of explaining myself. I think we are more in aggreement than disagreement.

Yes totally agreed that higher voltage produces less gunk buildup.
I just wish manufacturers would check their stuff before sending it out to us.