Huge Giveaway! Innokin launch their DISRUPTER Device on ECF - 400 To Win

[crxess]

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PWM sucks. Might as well stick to a Spinner. I was wondering how they can sell those things so cheap - now I know. And glad I got "deflowered" by Innokin.
(This is my first VW box mod - all mechs til now)

I do believe if you look closely at Buck/Boost mods you will find they are actually PWM. It is the frequency and final filtering that makes or breaks the smooth output.

 

[olscratchy]

Congratulations winners,,how many left to go?? 200??

 

[gofishtx]

Well, I may have not won anything yet but I do have some super awesome news.

I GOT A JOB OFFER!!

Aweeee yeah! I'm about to go work in Prudhoe Bay!!! Whooooop whoooooop!

3 weeks on 3 weeks off

Camp maintenance!! I should be leaving September 6th!!

I need to up my vape arsenal before I go. I can't run out while I'm in the middle of nowhere!

Mucho Congrats on getting the new job, better load up on some DIY Juice ingredients and coil building supplies, enjoy your new job

 

[FringeChief68]

Ever seen a LiPo blow? If an 18650 is a pipe bomb, a LiPo is one heck of a chunk of c4. Back in the early days of LiPo batteries and brushless motors in r/c, I ran an outrigger hydro that ran well over 120mph. It caught a wave and submerged at around 100 and the boat came apart. It nicked one of the LiPo packs then all hell broke loose. First one blew and set the second pack off. 3 officials at the event went to the ER with shrapnel injuries, hundreds of dead fish, and a whole crowd of wet people. I was 60 feet from it and lost an $800 radio from water damage, and got a few cuts from flying carbon fiber. I would rather have an 18650 blow in my pocket than a LiPo blow 20 feet from me. ALL batteries are dangerous and need to be treated with respect. That involved a pair of 6C packs, but if the boat hadn't been under 10 feet of water, it could have been a lot worse. Don't think for a second that LiPo batteries are any safer than 18650's.

Yea I always worry about my batteries, but I feel safer with the InnokinCell with all of it's safety feathers
I have one mod that scares me a little well ok scares me a lot

It's called the MECH from GEN TWO Mods
A unregulated mod with integrated LiPo batteries that comes with a Imax B6 balance charger
This thing puts out over 500 Watts using a .14 ohm coil It's like taking a hit off a boiling tea kettle
It's like my sports car that can go over 200 mph but instead sits in a garage waiting for the next car show

 

[gofishtx]

Not around here. And they don't carry the 100w istick.

I mean, if there is a massive difference, I'll probably just order a disrupter. But if it's more of a personal preference. I might just stick with the 100w istick because I already have the batteries and charger. And the price is nice.

I really like the 30w I have. But then again, that's been my main vape experience so far

You would still need to buy 2 new batteries for the Istick as I believe it is a 2 battery device and needs a married pair plus a married pair of back-ups. That's why I chose my Sigelei 75 watt as it only takes 1 battery. Battery life isn't great as, when chain vaping, I have to change to a fresh one after about 5 hours at 25 watts w/ a .5 ohm coil on a Subtank. same battery life with TC coil on it. My next TC device may be a 200 Watt Snow Wolf or the Sigelei 150 TC. I really like the Sigelei as a durable easy to use device, but the Snow wolf looks great too.
I like the idea of the Disrupter as a durable mod to carry around at work, or while out and about for sub ohm vaping
Okay, I admit it, I am a mod junkie with a serious case of shinyitis

 

[Midnightalaskan]

You would still need to buy 2 new batteries for the Istick as I believe it is a 2 battery device and needs a married pair plus a married pair of back-ups. That's why I chose my Sigelei 75 watt as it only takes 1 battery. Battery life isn't great as I have to change to a fresh one after about 5 hours at 25 watts w/ a .5 ohm coil on a Subtank. same battery life with TC tank on it. My next TC device may be a 200 Watt Snow Wolf or the Sigelei 150 TC. I really like the Sigelei as a durable easy to use device, but the Snow wolf looks great too.
I like the idea of the Disrupter as a durable mod to carry around at work, or while out and about for sub ohm vaping
Okay, I admit it, I am a mod junkie with a serious case of shinyitis

Yah, I think once I get back from Prudhoe, I'll be geeking out and getting all sorts of stuff. The disrupter is on my list. But I already know I'll win one so I'm just waiting for that so I can decide on what batteries to pick up.

I have two Samsung batteries already that I bought for a project that I never got around to. So picking up an extra set isn't that big for me.

After some research, it looks like the istick is both pwn and DC-DC depending on the voltage. But for now, unfortunately, cost is a big thing. I have to dump several hundred dollars into saftey gear and a plane ticket.

But I'm going to drop the subject, this isn't about isticks.
This is about how awesome innokin is and ECF!

So, which that said.... What RTA should I get? I have a doge RBA and I want a tank that doesn't need $5 cartridges.

 

[SomeTexan]

Yea I always worry about my batteries, but I feel safer with the InnokinCell with all of it's safety feathers
I have one mod that scares me a little well ok scares me a lot

It's called the MECH from GEN TWO Mods
A unregulated mod with integrated LiPo batteries that comes with a Imax B6 balance charger
This thing puts out over 500 Watts using a .14 ohm coil It's like taking a hit off a boiling tea kettle
It's like my sports car that can go over 200 mph but instead sits in a garage waiting for the next car show

It's well protected, that's for sure. I just hope it is well vented as well.

That's insane. I don't think I would want to use a LiPo in an unregulated mod. What size coil wire do you use, 10 gauge?

My car could go 200, I just like it to hit 180 in 1/4 mile though. Way more fun Than the extra 20mph top end... Lmao

 

[LoLoThatIsMe123]

Innokin said that if you win the Disrupter and post up pictures here, you will be entered into another drawing for InnokinCells in the future.

Ohhhhh .... That is great.

 

[FringeChief68]

It's well protected, that's for sure. I just hope it is well vented as well.

That's insane. I don't think I would want to use a LiPo in an unregulated mod. What size coil wire do you use, 10 gauge?

My car could go 200, I just like it to hit 180 in 1/4 mile though. Way more fun Than the extra 20mph top end... Lmao

When I got it I was just starting to build so I let the local vape shop build it for me I had a couple coils touch the deck and that was enough for me not to trust myself in building that thing
But yea I think they did use 10g.

 

[FringeChief68]

Here is something I did notice about my Disrupter, if I pull the battery off and put it back on, the Disrupter doesn't shut down.
But if I pull a battery off and put a different battery on, it shuts down No biggie it's just 3 clicks and back on, but I thought that was kinda neat that it knew it was a different battery.

 

[gofishtx]

Yah, I think once I get back from Prudhoe, I'll be geeking out and getting all sorts of stuff. The disrupter is on my list. But I already know I'll win one so I'm just waiting for that so I can decide on what batteries to pick up.

I have two Samsung batteries already that I bought for a project that I never got around to. So picking up an extra set isn't that big for me.

After some research, it looks like the istick is both pwn and DC-DC depending on the voltage. But for now, unfortunately, cost is a big thing. I have to dump several hundred dollars into saftey gear and a plane ticket.

But I'm going to drop the subject, this isn't about isticks.
This is about how awesome innokin is and ECF!

So, which that said.... What RTA should I get? I have a doge RBA and I want a tank that doesn't need $5 cartridges.

I love my Subtanks as well as the included RBA, you can buy coils for around $15 for 5 or you can build your own.I may pick up an ISub G as well, coils seem cheap enough and I loved all my old Iclear tanks.

 

[FringeChief68]

Made this for the Cali Vapers

 

[USMCotaku]

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I do believe if you look closely at Buck/Boost mods you will find they are actually PWM. It is the frequency and final filtering that makes or breaks the smooth output.

Scope testing will show that isn't true

 

[USMCotaku]

Double post :/

 

[FringeChief68]

Every now and FB makes me laugh

 

[crxess]

Scope testing will show that isn't true

Scope shows Filtered results.
Scope can only read final output.
DC energy has to be controlled. (2) options - Pules or Divert, so if not pulse, where is the diverted energy going? Certainly not back into the battery.
Sorry, even the Provari pulsed but at a much higher frequency than the
Vamo 33hz
eVic 400hz

Buck converter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'll be glad to read up on anything, not Mystery related, that is Modern and different.

 

[USMCotaku]

Scope shows Filtered results.
Scope can only read final output.
DC energy has to be controlled. (2) options - Pules or Divert, so if not pulse, where is the diverted energy going? Certainly not back into the battery.
Sorry, even the Provari pulsed but at a much higher frequency than the
Vamo 33hz
eVic 400hz

Buck converter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'll be glad to read up on anything, not Mystery related, that is Modern and different.

We all know a provari pulses, its a pwm mod, no secret there... And a scope SHOWS that, a mod that outputs a pwm freq shows the on off cycle on a scope....a mod with dc to dc switch has no on off cycle (though some have a "cleaner" signal then others)

 

[crxess]

DC-DC is still PWM with proper Capacitance and filtering which can and does flat line PWM on the final output stage. Industry has been doing it for years, Chinese Mod manufacturers are just slow at getting up to speed.
Many of the high end amps I sold, while in business for myself, used PWM and you never, ever experienced any sound degradation.

 

[USMCotaku]

No, just no. PWM is an OUTPUT method of regulating a constant input voltage down by controlling the duty cycle. The longer the "on" cycle, the higher the voltage.
A dc to dc converter switch works opposite, pulling from the source voltage "switched" (this is the cause of signal "noise" the more efficient the converter, the cleaner the signal) then the energy is stored, and released on the output end as a steady signal..... They are NOT the same thing, and dc switches don't use pwm
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

 

[USMCotaku]

And to further the sound analogy, its like comparing digital to analog........sure, using a good compression sampling rate, you can get digital to sound good, so good that most won't hear the difference.....but the difference IS there, one a trained ear can hear.
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.