Mine just showed up. They're still wrapped in bubble wrap and this evening I'm going to give them the testing they got coming. I got to do some things today and won't be here. I bet yours are there today.
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On day three here. I tried the silver (RY4) on my 5V box mod and I am getting a burnt taste. The BB Menthol on the other hand is performing well at 5V (no detectable burnt taste). As reported elsewhere, I believe it is the liquid I am using (RY4) and not the carto itself although "the look" is experiencing the same issue with her silver one. I don't know? I may change up my liquids for future reviews if the situation arises.
What needs to be said here is that although these were developed for HV vaping, they perform extremely well on the eGo and at 3.7V. Therefore, because of their design folks may not need to go HV with them to find HV satisfaction, but can indeed remain at lower voltages because they do render a 5V vape at lower voltages without the heat associated with HV voltage. In my experience anyway.
The silver carto performs like a champ although I still cannot use it over 3.7V. It is seasoning very well and has tightened up just a wee bit(read I mean a wee bit). TH has diminished to 2 to 2.5 however with seasoning. Flavour has not changed neither has vapour production.
The black with the BB menthol is performing well at 5V and the numbers have not changed perse but the vapour produced is warmer and to be expected.
It is my recommendation that these cartos be acclimatised to vaping at 3.7V for a day or two before graduating to 5V or higher. IMHO the dividends far outweigh the harshness of a fresh carto.
We have similar findings Switched
I have to say this is not the first time I have used a carto wrapped like this inside, whether that matters or not I'm not sure. I'm also still finding these cartos work very good at the lower voltages as well as up to 5v with the chrome one getting hotter.
I have been happily vaping away on my silver carto all day, have not had anymore burn taste since I switched juice and topping off as I should
Still using my 5V and have been with the exception of the little bit I used the ego yesterday.
Still using my 5V and have been with the exception of the little bit I used the ego yesterday.
Okey dokey! I have just finished my VV BeGo today. It is set at 4.2V under load and the silver carto is performing well with RY4. 4.6V is too hot for this liquid. I will continue the evening with this set up and will report as the testing continues.
TH 3/5
VP 5/5
Fl 3/5
A VV eGo
life doesn't get any better than that 
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ego-variable-voltage-switching-regulator.html
It is set at 4.2V under load and the silver carto is performing well with RY4. 4.6V is too hot for this liquid. I will continue the evening with this set up and will report as the testing continues. TH 3/5
VP 5/5
Fl 3/5
A VV eGo
life doesn't get any better than that http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ego-variable-voltage-switching-regulator.html
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Little more follow up here on this Beta testing from this evening =
I decided to whip out my Buzz and test these exactly with the meter and see what voltages I liked them at best the following are my findings =
Black Carto best for me between = 3.2v-4.5v
= same !
Silver Carto best for me between = 3.2-4.5v
Since sweet spots are so subjective I understand this is a big spread but these carto's just worked well from 3.2 (Ego material) all the way up to 4.5
Back to the bottom of carto's I went through a stockpile that I have and found some wrapped like the inside of these, however they have the slotted end on them, I like this slotted end better for the reason I stated earlier about the little white silicone O-Ring thing that I don't prefer, I vaped a couple of those and they seem close or if not the same as these cartos with the same filler in them and wrapped inside the same way which I think came from Bloog, where by the way Leaford is now working who use to work at V4L and I believe those cartos are there fusion design. The material inside of these cartos same as Issac's just does not burn, you would have to let your carto vape completely dry and keep burning it to even get the smallest of black marks just where the wire is only and that's trying to burn them on purpose, so I'm a big fan of these types of cartos simply for health reasons beside you can use them at various voltages so for people that have different units everyone can use these for the most part and they seem safe. lastly when it comes to ohm's I think these are in the same range of each other the black carto and the Chrome one.
I decided to whip out my Buzz and test these exactly with the meter and see what voltages I liked them at best the following are my findings =
Black Carto best for me between = 3.2v-4.5v
= same !
Silver Carto best for me between = 3.2-4.5v
Since sweet spots are so subjective I understand this is a big spread but these carto's just worked well from 3.2 (Ego material) all the way up to 4.5
Back to the bottom of carto's I went through a stockpile that I have and found some wrapped like the inside of these, however they have the slotted end on them, I like this slotted end better for the reason I stated earlier about the little white silicone O-Ring thing that I don't prefer, I vaped a couple of those and they seem close or if not the same as these cartos with the same filler in them and wrapped inside the same way which I think came from Bloog, where by the way Leaford is now working who use to work at V4L and I believe those cartos are there fusion design. The material inside of these cartos same as Issac's just does not burn, you would have to let your carto vape completely dry and keep burning it to even get the smallest of black marks just where the wire is only and that's trying to burn them on purpose, so I'm a big fan of these types of cartos simply for health reasons beside you can use them at various voltages so for people that have different units everyone can use these for the most part and they seem safe. lastly when it comes to ohm's I think these are in the same range of each other the black carto and the Chrome one.
For the longest time I must admit that I was not fond of VVs and I thought that varying the attys and device could provide the necessary Nirvana. Well it did and does, but... As seen here with these cartos and certain liquids sometimes we do need to fine tune, to bring the max out of the liquid and equipment in use.
From 3.7V --->5V (4.67 loaded) is quite a wide range IMHO and may not be conducive to overall accuracy. As a beta tester being able to depict where the transition is, offers possible solutions to Isaac, once again IMHO, depending where he wants to go with these.
I vaped both the silver and black last night at a set 4.2 and 5V. I did not take loaded readings as I just wanted to relax and vape. I will take loaded readings as my review continues. Because of this added dimension (BeGo) I will continue testing these with this device rather than a regulated 5V device.
As you I am getting between 1-2hrs before topping off is required, which is surprising because they only accept 10-12 drops before flooding, which means the carto is still holding 2/3 of the original fill which remains unavailable to us. Allowing the carto to sit for extended periods of time does permit thorough permeation, but the average vaper may not necessarily vape in this fashion. The rest period although allows a more thorough saturation of the batting, it only provides a couple of extra hits before vapour production decreases once again. For heavy vapers I would recommended using more than one device at a time.
Not having conducted an autopsy on these cartos at this time, conducting blind testing (which is good) leaves me to the conclusion that the original 510 cartos seem a little more efficient with its juice delivery system. This may be entirely subjective however, but an observation nonetheless that may or may not be valuable to Isaac.
Day 3
My silver carto seems to work best on anything UNDER 4.5V with no burn/off/funky taste.
Although, this one tastes better with my eGo or adapted and uses with a 808 batt.
The silver one also gets hotter quicker.
My black carto works better than the silver one on HV anything the slightest bit over 5V and I get a nasty taste.
I have found that my PT which is measuring out at 4.97 is working the best with the black one.
The StompBox and the SB seem to be too much.
I have also noticed what switched stated about topping off, after 10 drops or so it floods, which means there was still plenty of juice left in there that is not being used.
My silver carto seems to work best on anything UNDER 4.5V with no burn/off/funky taste.
Although, this one tastes better with my eGo or adapted and uses with a 808 batt.
The silver one also gets hotter quicker.
My black carto works better than the silver one on HV anything the slightest bit over 5V and I get a nasty taste.
I have found that my PT which is measuring out at 4.97 is working the best with the black one.
The StompBox and the SB seem to be too much.
I have also noticed what switched stated about topping off, after 10 drops or so it floods, which means there was still plenty of juice left in there that is not being used.
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Switched as I stated in my post
" Since sweet spots are so subjective I understand this is a big spread but these carto's just worked well from 3.2 (Ego material) all the way up to 4.5 "
For me I am enjoying these more on the lower side around 3.2-4.0v myself and I really am not considering these HV Cartos in my opinion, however they are ok up to 5v but they just start to get to hot from there.
As for the fill on them I also agree with your statement on how many drops you can get into them before they flood. They are also an airy draw and I prefer a tighter draw. The filler material however is a very safe material and does not burn to easy.
" Since sweet spots are so subjective I understand this is a big spread but these carto's just worked well from 3.2 (Ego material) all the way up to 4.5 "
For me I am enjoying these more on the lower side around 3.2-4.0v myself and I really am not considering these HV Cartos in my opinion, however they are ok up to 5v but they just start to get to hot from there.
As for the fill on them I also agree with your statement on how many drops you can get into them before they flood. They are also an airy draw and I prefer a tighter draw. The filler material however is a very safe material and does not burn to easy.
Switcher, everything is valuable my friend. While it is upsetting to discover that these aren't cutting 6V. The results on the wide spread 3.2v-4.5 is still very satisfying. Most folks have discovered 4.5V is the optimal range for atomizers and Variable voltage devices are making a huge break through in the market. This makes me want to kick start Infinity very badly as something similar to it has still not been created and will still reign supreme if I had the right investments. 
Your BeGo is gorgeous! GREAT JOB!!!
Aw Angus! I just checked up on you and we're in Atlanta! Next time we'll use priority to be on the safe side.I don't understand the hold up
Look, Mwa, Switcher you guys have just been incredible!! I can't thank you guys enough for being so incredible!
Your BeGo is gorgeous! GREAT JOB!!!
Aw Angus! I just checked up on you and we're in Atlanta! Next time we'll use priority to be on the safe side.I don't understand the hold up
Look, Mwa, Switcher you guys have just been incredible!! I can't thank you guys enough for being so incredible!
I think you may have misinterpreted the gist of my post, but otherwise I believe we are coming to the same conclusions.
Thank you Ike, I am proud to be one of your beta testers
I know that my posts are not as Tech-ish ( I know that is a real word and this is not scrabble..lol) as the guys are, I am trying to be as honest and thorough as I can be
I learn a lot from Switch and mwa and enjoy reading their posts, they put into words the results much better than I ever could.
I know that my posts are not as Tech-ish ( I know that is a real word and this is not scrabble..lol) as the guys are, I am trying to be as honest and thorough as I can be
I learn a lot from Switch and mwa and enjoy reading their posts, they put into words the results much better than I ever could.
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I think you may have misinterpreted the gist of my post, but otherwise I believe we are coming to the same conclusions.
I think we both misinterpreted each other, I only meant to repeat what I had posted earlier in agreeing with the big spread with you Switched so all is good my friend.
Okey dokey! I have just finished my VV BeGo today.
TH 3/5
VP 5/5
Fl 3/5
A VV eGo
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ego-variable-voltage-switching-regulator.html
Where's the love?
Where can I see pics of this marvelous creation?
Haha Look up! It's a beaut for sure! Such intricate work. Just amazing
Thank you Ike, I am proud to be one of your beta testers
I know that my posts are not as Tech-ish ( I know that is a real word and this is not scrabble..lol) as the guys are, I am trying to be as honest and thorough as I can be
I learn a lot from Switch and mwa and enjoy reading their posts, they put into words the results much better than I ever could.
Aw Look! No, no at all! Teckish is for the tekkies.
It's always great to learn what makes them tick and how many ticks. Information is always valuable. My motto is We learn knowledge and so we pass it on" Your posts are so well written and just beautifully done. Your honesty and character is what makes you, You and that is all I ask for. So, Thank you Look!The black carto I received from Ikenvape is the one being tested here.
I am using 555 24mg. 100% pg.
The voltage and amps are loaded values I'm posting.
And now "On with the show"
I filled it with 555 and put it on my PV at 4.7 volts the amps was 2.21 which is usually 1.31 so I noticed right off they pull more amps than the regulars. Anyway I took a puff and thought what was that? Did these come with primer fluid in them? Tasted awful.
I then turned it down to 3.7volt and it was pulling 1.76 amps. and It was excellent. The vapor was immense, flavor great and throat hit was lacking nothing.
3.8 volt was pulling 1.81 amps and was still great on all fronts. Taste was still good, vapor was great as was the throat hit and it had a nice warm feel to it.
3.9volt at 1.92 amp was just at the edge of too high. The flavor was still good. The vapor, was still massive but the throat hit had just a little bite.
4.2 volt at 2.09 amp was too high for me. The flavor was harsh, the vapor was, of course, still great but the throat hit was to harsh and very uncomfortable. Now I'll go the other way.
3.6 volts at 1.72 was still a very nice level. Flavor was still good, vapor all though not as good as it was at the higher levels was still great. Throat hit was still good too and even cooler.
3.4 volts at 1.66 amps was pretty much the same as it was at 3.6 volts. With flavor, vapor and throat hit pretty close. It was just a bit cooler as to be expected.
3.2 volts at 1.57 amps was good. The flavor is still good, the vapor is beginning to lessen and throat hit is allot cooler.
2.9 volts at 1.44 amps is still a nice cool vape with taste, vapor and throat hit starting to weaken but still in the ballpark.
2.8 volts at 1.35 amps is just too low for me but I'm used to HV vaping. The taste is very weak, the vapor is also very weak and throat hit also very cool and weak.
It is a great cartomizer that in my opinion works great at the lower voltage levels. It would be especially good for using on a standart e cigarette to produce the taste, vapor and throat hit the high voltage mods does. It seems to hold more liquid in my opinion than my other 510 cartos and produces more vapor than they do. I like the draw on these too.
Will come back to post how long my vape time is on a fill.
Update I vaped moderately for around 5 hr. before I needed a refill.
Now to that nice looking silver one.
I am using 555 24mg. 100% pg.
The voltage and amps are loaded values I'm posting.
And now "On with the show"
I filled it with 555 and put it on my PV at 4.7 volts the amps was 2.21 which is usually 1.31 so I noticed right off they pull more amps than the regulars. Anyway I took a puff and thought what was that? Did these come with primer fluid in them? Tasted awful.
I then turned it down to 3.7volt and it was pulling 1.76 amps. and It was excellent. The vapor was immense, flavor great and throat hit was lacking nothing.
3.8 volt was pulling 1.81 amps and was still great on all fronts. Taste was still good, vapor was great as was the throat hit and it had a nice warm feel to it.
3.9volt at 1.92 amp was just at the edge of too high. The flavor was still good. The vapor, was still massive but the throat hit had just a little bite.
4.2 volt at 2.09 amp was too high for me. The flavor was harsh, the vapor was, of course, still great but the throat hit was to harsh and very uncomfortable. Now I'll go the other way.
3.6 volts at 1.72 was still a very nice level. Flavor was still good, vapor all though not as good as it was at the higher levels was still great. Throat hit was still good too and even cooler.
3.4 volts at 1.66 amps was pretty much the same as it was at 3.6 volts. With flavor, vapor and throat hit pretty close. It was just a bit cooler as to be expected.
3.2 volts at 1.57 amps was good. The flavor is still good, the vapor is beginning to lessen and throat hit is allot cooler.
2.9 volts at 1.44 amps is still a nice cool vape with taste, vapor and throat hit starting to weaken but still in the ballpark.
2.8 volts at 1.35 amps is just too low for me but I'm used to HV vaping. The taste is very weak, the vapor is also very weak and throat hit also very cool and weak.
It is a great cartomizer that in my opinion works great at the lower voltage levels. It would be especially good for using on a standart e cigarette to produce the taste, vapor and throat hit the high voltage mods does. It seems to hold more liquid in my opinion than my other 510 cartos and produces more vapor than they do. I like the draw on these too.
Will come back to post how long my vape time is on a fill.
Update I vaped moderately for around 5 hr. before I needed a refill.
Now to that nice looking silver one.
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Aw Angus! I just checked up on you and we're in Atlanta! Next time we'll use priority to be on the safe side.I don't understand the hold up
Usually first class actually gets to me a day sooner than Priority. The USPS has just been very inconsistent lately, and has actually lost two packages that were sent to me, and only found one of them. So there is no rhyme or reason for the delay.
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