I am having a dreadful time

[John D in CT]

No the clearo. In one month I have now burnt up 3 of these and had one get a hairline crack somewhere. IOW, they are as durable as an eggshell.

I passed on the Vivi Nova because my research led me to a lot of threads like this one. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tanks/332596-vivi-nova-mini-2-5-burnt-taste-fix.html

I am probably a couple of weeks away from jumping over to the lavaube or a PV. Will see as I am fine with the eGo but honestly am tired of the hassle with the clearos.

My advice:

1) Re-think the stock Vivi Nova
2) Read the thread on how to tweak it - something I've found unnecessary
3) Stop blaming the Twist for the clearo
4) Stop beeyatching if you refuse to take good advice
5) Get a bunch of Twists, a bunch of chargers, a bunch of Novas, and a lanyard/trim ring

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OK .... I'm just going to leave that "as is" ... but really ... didn't I talk to you on the phone for an hour or more, begging you to take some very simple advice, which you have all but ignored? At the very least, get a bunch of Boge cartos, slot 'em, and stick 'em in a Smoktech DCT. Boge-gate, Schmoge-gate - slot it, slam it in, and vape. Or get a Penelope and a bunch of Twists or Spinners, and a bunch of chargers. This is simple - please don't go to so much trouble to make it complicated.

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Hmm ... or did you never call? Can't find a record of any conversation with you, but it might be there ......

 

[John D in CT]

Is cinnacide anything like cinnamint from KVB? It's a nice flavor in small doses and kinda in your face but tasty

No clue; never tried KVB Cinnamint. Atomic Cinnacide from Tasty Vapor is wicked good, but after about 4 months, I OD'ed on it, and am not sure if I could ever vape it long-term again. I'll be trying it soon just to see. It's a little like how cough syrup is now a challenge for me, after having a lot of colds in high school.

Are they trying to charge for the Life Coaching? If so, I'd report that to the Mods.

Awhile back, someone posted that there was a CL ad that had someone offering those services for ecigs.

Wow, Life Coaching in here and sending out PM's? That is way NOT cool. I would never have wanted someone to do that to me. I'm glad to hear you are having a better go at it this time around with the e-cigs, Hunters Friend. I think my biggest hang up at first was that it took me a couple of months to find really good flavors that I really enjoyed alot, which made me not miss smoking an analog. But it takes time and hopefully you will find the right flavors for yourself also.

LOL I thought he meant members were just encouraging him via PM....didn't realize there were people offering up life coaching services for $$$......

Who is trying to get money for mentoring ECF members? I have always done it for no charge. Is someone charging money, or trying to? Not saying it would be against any rules, if it was an "up front" thing, as with any "good" or service ..... just wondering .....

 

[Steve K]

Yes if you want trouble free vaping get the Vivi novas and Don't listen to the negative posts regarding it,It is extremely trouble free and constant.

 

[Szalvias]

I have not been analogue free for very long, but, like you, I have tried many times to kick the habit and have failed many times using different methods. I've tried patches, gum, dip, snus, cigars, pipes, and I've tried e-cigs a couple times before. I've consulted my doctor and joined support groups for people who are quitting (they weren't helpful but I did learn a lot about how addiction works)/
This time it's working for me, and the reason is multi-faceted, as it typically is especially concerning cigarettes.
The addiction to cigarettes is NOT just an addiction to nicotine. In addition to the physical dependency on nicotine (which my doctor assures me is broken after as little as 2-3 days nicotine free) most people also develop a mental addiction to the act of smoking, in fact, one reason people who are quitting cigarettes tend to eat more is the similarity between the actions of smoking and eating. This mental addiction can involve any and all of the actions involved with cigarettes (or other tobacco products, for that matter) including the flavor, the aroma, and the physical actions involved.
What I'm getting at is that you will never find anything that is exactly the same as smoking a cigarette except for smoking another cigarette, and therefore there is always a (very strong) likelihood that any type of replacement you find to keep yourself from smoking will still leave you with some cravings. The determining factor is typically motivation and discipline, although finding a suitable alternative helps, in truth the alternatives are usually "the straw that broke the camel's back" or something like that.

What really helped me to kick the analogues with vaping is the simple fact that I enjoy vaping more than cigarettes... I mean, even if I still smoked analogues I would likely get some non-nicotine juice and vap anyway because it appeals to me for various idiosyncratic reasons. I like the taste, I like that it's comparatively "high-tech" reminding me of something from a sci-fi story. I even like the effect it has socially when people notice that I'm actually not smoking but doing some other weird thing.
My suggestion for you is to find something you really enjoy to help replace the mental addictions you have from smoking. Some people chew gum, some drink water, some vap, whatever you can think up. Although I'm sure some people replace cigs with a PV and have no issues or cravings, I certainly still crave cigarettes... it's just a reduced craving that I can handle so long as I vap.
At first it helped me to use tobacco flavored juice (although now I'm ready to get to different flavors) and I could still use more nicotine. I have also found that stuff with a greater throat hit also helps. Of course, most of my experience with methods beyond my own single brand of ecig is from sampling my friends' setups.

Best of luck to you, I hope you can boot the tobacco however you get it done!

 

[blondeambition3]

Hey Mike,

first of all, congratulations on what seems to be a valiant effort to become smoke-free. It sounds to me like it's not the juice or the nicotine strength that's hampering you, but more so the models and delivery methods. 30mg juice is enough to stop a horse, and while you'll never find a juice that replicates the flavour of cigarettes accurately (nor should you want to, as cigarettes really do taste awful), there are literally hundreds of flavours to test out - I'm sure there's a few out there for you. Can you provide us with a little more details on the different models and atomizers/cartomizers/tanks you've tried? Might help us zero in on some suggestions for you.

Remember, you're still quitting smoking. There's no magical PV that will make you instantly forget about analogues. You still have to be mentally prepared to quit, and the PV is simply a tool that makes this endeavor much less difficult.I've seen many long-time multiple-packs-per-day smokers quit with a PV - it's a matter of finding the setup that you relate to most. I failed probably 6 or 7 times before I found my ideal setup, and you will too - just hang in there.

This is awesome advice Mike and I too applaud you for your valiant efforts and literally feel your frustration. I think your idea of a 'vaping convention' is spot on brilliant as this would give you an excellent opportunity to try out a lot of juices and eCig systems first hand. There IS an eCig solution for you out there.... Just don't give up and in time, (hopefully soon), you will find it. Try not to be so hard on yourself.... most of us failed miserably many times before we got 'this thing' right.

 

[John D in CT]

I don't think I've said this in this thread, so here it is:

I'm smokin' a .... right now and absolutely lovin' it. It's disgusting and delicious, and I just crushed it out (it was down to the filter). My fingers stink, and now I'm ... (stops to take a hit off of a Twist fitted with a slotted Boge 3.0 in a DCT) ... having some excellent hits of a total schwaggg joose called "NPort" that I wouldn't recommend to my worst enemy, yet somehow tastes great. It's 24mg (WTH?) and gives an immediate buzz that goes great with the caffeine (French Roast) and tea (Twining's "Earl Grey", hot [about 140 F.]) that I've been swilling all day, every day, that keeps my neural network in top shape.

The butts rob my body of oxygen thanks to the CO (carbon monoxide), and I can do without all of the other toxic chemicals, but when I really feel like it, there's nothing like a ..... I've always been an "options guy", and I love the option of "dabbling" without having to worry about getting "hooked" on ciggies again, since I have an option that's more enjoyable, even with the worst joooose I can possibly imagine ... at least until they come out with a decent Belly Button Lint flavor.

"Failure", some might say? I disagree. I consider it a smashing success in "doing what the hell I want to", without being a slave to either smoking or slavishly refraining from smoking, like a penitant wearing a hair shirt and engaging in self-flaggelation. I now offer e-cigs as an option/alternative/supplement to smoking ciggies, and not as an out-and-out replacement. If you find yourself smoking no ciggies, as I am likely to do for long stretches at a time (I just went one year before doing up about three packs in two weeks, after a particularly challenging stretch including nine days of involuntary "incarceration" over a misunderstanding (the charges will likely end up being dropped, and the police have already all but apologized, and have been forgiven by me for just doing their job), then great; if you really, really want to smoke a ...., then consider really, really having one. You'll probably find that it sucks pretty bad compared to an optimum vape (easily had with Twists/Spinners and stock Vivi Novas; not too sure how long I'm going to have to keep saying that).

The occasional ciggie will hasten my demise at an acceptable (to me) rate, and I will have enjoyed my finite time on this planet all the more for not "punishing" myself in what I consider an unnecessary fashion. A large concern of mine is that I not die before the technology becomes available that will enable me to transfer my consciousness to an electronic medium, but if I do happen to die before that becomes a possibility, then so be it. There'd probably just be some damn power outage or other snafu that would make me go "poof" anyway, so "it's all good", as the kids say. Fear of dying isn't one of my big hang-ups, so I'm just going to continue doing what I want, pursuant to the requirement not to inordinately infringe on the rights or sensibilities of others.

Let's see ... vape, or smoke ..... 1/5/2013, 12:26AM ... I just chose vaping. Cool.

"TLDR"? No sweat, no harm, no foul. Vape on. Or smoke. Whichever you prefer. The ciggies are really, really bad for you though. Vaping, not so much. Your choice.

 

[Worzel]

Worzel - I come back from time to time and read these victory stories of similar souls and believe me - I find use for all of them. I had mentioned previously that the best advice I received here was to not beat the crap out of myself for actually liking cigarettes. In retrospect, that is not quite right. The best advice was to not beat the crap out of myself for having a cigarette here and there and rather celebrate the times I was vaping and not smoking. Truthfully, for me - that was really the best advice. When I was starting out, that really meant something to me. Before I knew it, I was tapering off - little by little until the day came that I was past swinging into the store for a pack. It still amazes me I no longer have cigarettes around. Who knows when the day comes that I no longer have a vaper around as well, but for now, I am thrilled to simply vape and not worry about it. God bless and thank you for your post.

Mike

Well, it sounds like you are taking steps in the right direction! And that is very good advice! You are open minded enough to even try vaping is awesome. Not many people are until it is too late. But it seems your question has been answered and you have good news here!

 

[AmuseMe1983]

The convention sounds like an awesome idea! I just started smoking these the other day as my New Years resolution and I have no idea what flavors to order and it seems very expensive to pick a few crappy ones before you find one you like. Anyway, I smoked for 8 years and quit for three by using the nicotine patch and the gum simultaneously... I'm sure it's contraindicated but it took less than a week to quit and I was done for 3 years Good luck!

 

[Hunters Friend]

The convention sounds like an awesome idea! I just started smoking these the other day as my New Years resolution and I have no idea what flavors to order and it seems very expensive to pick a few crappy ones before you find one you like. Anyway, I smoked for 8 years and quit for three by using the nicotine patch and the gum simultaneously... I'm sure it's contraindicated but it took less than a week to quit and I was done for 3 years Good luck!

Congratulations on picking the right combination. About 5 years ago, my family MD said the exact same thing to me. He said "Mike, I don't care if you dip, patch or chew gum. In fact, do all 3. Whatever it takes to quit smoking - do it."

I can only imagine his reaction here in a few months when I go back slimmer, healthier and smoke free.

 

[Hunters Friend]

Well, it sounds like you are taking steps in the right direction! And that is very good advice! You are open minded enough to even try vaping is awesome. Not many people are until it is too late. But it seems your question has been answered and you have good news here!

Thanks

It wasn't so much a question of being open minded. It was a case of utter frustration at continued failure. Man, I bet I made 50 attempts with these things and continued to crash. And it doubly infuriated me when I would see everyone from truck stop mommas to the Marlboro Man just making the switch with ease.

There is a woman in my hometown who was just such a person. She was a disgusting smoker. One lit in her mouth, one lit in her hand and another burning in the ashtray. One day she comes whipping up to me and says "Hey Mike, ya gotta try one of these. I quit cold turkey last week and love them!" and then shot off to go train for a triathalon or something like that.

Only thing she didn't know at the time was that I was 2 years ahead of her as I had already been down that road.

Then the "Smoking Pony Express" (our rural county mailman) was next. He too had found out about eCigs and he too simply made the switch and was done.

That was what led me to come here and beg for help. Easily the best time I have ever invested in myself was simply sitting down and penning the open letter to this community. No brow beating, no chastising, no admonishments. Just gentle ears and firm pushing hands guiding people to work through their issues.

God bless you all - it does work.

Think we have came to the end of this thread as it appears to have ran it's course. Need to jump over to other peoples threads and help them through their troubles and be one of the supporters as well.

Thank you everyone, Mike

 

[MikenGA]

...and so, the page turns once again!

NEXT

 

[John D in CT]

Thanks

It wasn't so much a question of being open minded. It was a case of utter frustration at continued failure. Man, I bet I made 50 attempts with these things and continued to crash. And it doubly infuriated me when I would see everyone from truck stop mommas to the Marlboro Man just making the switch with ease.

There is a woman in my hometown who was just such a person. She was a disgusting smoker. One lit in her mouth, one lit in her hand and another burning in the ashtray. One day she comes whipping up to me and says "Hey Mike, ya gotta try one of these. I quit cold turkey last week and love them!" and then shot off to go train for a triathalon or something like that.

Only thing she didn't know at the time was that I was 2 years ahead of her as I had already been down that road.

Then the "Smoking Pony Express" (our rural county mailman) was next. He too had found out about eCigs and he too simply made the switch and was done.

That was what led me to come here and beg for help. Easily the best time I have ever invested in myself was simply sitting down and penning the open letter to this community. No brow beating, no chastising, no admonishments. Just gentle ears and firm pushing hands guiding people to work through their issues.

God bless you all - it does work.

Think we have came to the end of this thread as it appears to have ran it's course. Need to jump over to other peoples threads and help them through their troubles and be one of the supporters as well.

Thank you everyone, Mike

As far as I'm concerned, this thread ain't over until you buy a few Vivi Novas and let us all know what you think of them. Without them - or something "better", like a Penelope, an Odyssseus, a Bulli A2-TM, or a host of other attachments - you're still in the Dark Ages IMO.

 

[Scott2Quit]

As far as I'm concerned, this thread ain't over until you buy a few Vivi Novas and let us all know what you think of them. Without them - or something "better", like a Penelope, an Odyssseus, a Bulli A2-TM, or a host of other attachments - you're still in the Dark Ages IMO.

I agree.

Until I tried a Vivi Nova, I wasn't sure I could make the switch.

And I'm still using a regular KGO battery, no VV. I'm working on finding a few juices that really do it for me and then stepping up to a VV or an AVP. But yeah, so far the Vivi Nova has been the best purchase I've made.

 

[wanttoknow1]

My advise keep trying & think positive

About a year ago started on Blu e cigs, Do good till batteries needed charging or sitting watching T.V. getting bored or going to a friend’s house who smoked then I would start up again. Week later try and quit do ok till got around cigs and would grab one.
Two weeks ago a friend brought down ( Live in Mexico) my order of couple twist and bolt, along with juice I have been letting set waiting for it to get some taste other than perfume, so have been using my blu carts on the bolt to keep from smoking. Why is my juice not ready? running out of cart’s from Blu and do not want to go to 7-11 for some Benson’s.

 

[Hello World]

I do agree with you, a good starter is essential. I blew significant money on the little ones and regret every penny thrown away and it definitely played a role in us giving away the eGos in the 650ma version. In good conscience we couldn't give our customers something I myself would not use.

Thanks for the post. Mike

Hi Mike.

Being excessively skeptical about vape-smoking when I first heard of it, I came to this site for research after webpages failed to make me any wiser. It became rather obvious forum users were shelling out exorbitant sums graduating up the pro-gear ladder, and so I grabbed the top rig the local brick & mortar had to offer. Shortly after I bought a second eVic in case of conk-out, and since no longer playing nice with the Imperial & Reynolds boys in their sandbox.

Best of success to you, Mike.

 

[brhollifield]

Absolutely love this success story!

 

[John D in CT]

My advise keep trying & think positive

About a year ago started on Blu e cigs, Do good till batteries needed charging or sitting watching T.V. getting bored or going to a friend’s house who smoked then I would start up again. Week later try and quit do ok till got around cigs and would grab one.
Two weeks ago a friend brought down ( Live in Mexico) my order of couple twist and bolt, along with juice I have been letting set waiting for it to get some taste other than perfume, so have been using my blu carts on the bolt to keep from smoking. Why is my juice not ready? running out of cart’s from Blu and do not want to go to 7-11 for some Benson’s.

Vivi Novas and Twists/Spinners. Yowzah ... now that's a nice vape at a reasonable price.

Hi Mike.

Being excessively skeptical about vape-smoking when I first heard of it, I came to this site for research after webpages failed to make me any wiser. It became rather obvious forum users were shelling out exorbitant sums graduating up the pro-gear ladder, and so I grabbed the top rig the local brick & mortar had to offer. Shortly after I bought a second eVic in case of conk-out, and since no longer playing nice with the Imperial & Reynolds boys in their sandbox.

Best of success to you, Mike.

Wot in heckfire is an EVic? is it even variable voltage? Grab yo'sef some Twists/Spinners and some Novas. Wow ... they sure will give ya' a fine vape for not much dinero.

Absolutely love this success story!

Well just what is success, after all? One person's "success" could be another person's abject failure. Mike is still using equpment that is arguably sub-par, and is possibly jonesing for a ciggie, which he is likely going to deny himself, when it might just "hit the spot". Life is funny, no?

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Canned text/spam prose/c- (for common sense) rations:

Again, if I were just starting out, this is what I would have wanted to have, knowing what I know now:

Three Joyetech eGo-C Twists, or three Vision Spinners, or combination thereof.
Three Vivi Nova tanks; maybe 2- 3.5ml and 1-2.0 ml.
A box of five Boge 2.0 or 3.0 ohm single coil stainless steel XL-sized cartomizers
Two chargers.
Juice - At least 5 flavors, at least 150 ml total, 18mg, 80/20.
Lanyard.
Trim ring.

You're done.

I truly wish it had been this simple when I was just starting out.

*****

Joyetech eGo-C Twist: http://www.myvaporstore.com/Joye_eGo_C_Twist_Variable_Voltage_650mAh_Battery_p/ego-c-tst.htm

More Twists: http://www.myvaporstore.com/Batteries_E_Cigarette_s/24.htm

USB charger: http://www.myvaporstore.com/eGo_Rapid_USB_Charger_p/ego-char.htm 6.75

Wall charger: http://www.myvaporstore.com/Mini_AC_Wall_to_USB_Converter_p/mw2usb.htm 6.25

eGo trim piece: http://www.myvaporstore.com/eGo_Cone_Cover_for_DCTank_p/ego-cdct.htm

Lanyard: http://www.myvaporstore.com/Joye_eGo_Lanyard_p/ego-lan.htm

Joye eGo carrying case: http://www.myvaporstore.com/eGo_Leather_Carry_Case_p/ego-case.htm

Cartomizers: http://www.crystalclearvaping.com/3...ohm-STAINLESS-STEEL-15-CARTOMISERS_p_108.html

Cartomizers: http://www.surevapes.com/Boge-Mix-n-Match-5-Boxes_p_114.html Boge single coils .92 each

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I'm not affiliated with any of these vendors, or profiting in any way from these recommendations (lord knows).

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Hate me? Well that sucks, cuz I love you. I love vaping, too. And ciggies. Yum, yum, yum.

 

[Hello World]

Wot in heckfire is an EVic? is it even variable voltage?

Google is your friend. At least a dozen current threads already exist on these forums about the eVic.

 

[John D in CT]

Google is your friend. At least a dozen current threads already exist on these forums about the eVic.

Oh, but that would spoil the fun for everyone reading this thread.

Come on, you can tell us ... we're all friends here ... right?

 

[flowerchild]

hello Mike...Your original post looks exactly the same as the one you posted a few months ago. I also see some of the posts youve recieved today are from the same people offering suggestions to help you. I think you must have tried just about everything to turn youself on to vapeing , maybe it isnt for you , I think most people want to quit when they begin the vapeing journey, I didnt want to quit after 25yrs I was quite happy smoking but I tried vapeing and quit by accident really. I have had issues with vapeing, I have a Pg allergy and I am yet to find a juice that delights me but, I have started so I will continue to vape as its probably a safer alternative to smoking and Im hopeing I will eventually reap some health benefits ( I have had spine surgery and my surgeon insisted on my quitting) I read ShogaNinjas guide to vapeing when I first started and it was most usefull. He has suggested hypnosis and I would say thats a good alternative for you. Good Luck with your venture I hope you manage to set up your function centre.