I am having a dreadful time

[militantbuddhist]

Mike, take my word for it. You gotta give it at least a month. I've been DYING for a cancer stick, but in the past couple days, the cravings aren't as nagging and annoying. The nicotine isn't the scariest part of the addiction, it's the 4,000 other chemical compounds in them. No one knows which ones are addictive, or how to treat them.

They say that quitting smoking is harder than quitting ...... (can I say that if it's related to a statistic of relapses?), and I didn't believe it until I started doing some research, and having given vaping a shot.

I gotta say, it's not as satisfactory as a cigarette (though I have the wrong juices and equipment). But, I compare my disappointment to how I acted when I had no money and no smokes. I acted like a drug addict--well, because I was. Digging through the cushions for pocket change, fighting at people...I used the patch to keep me sane during those times, but the moment I found $10, I'd rip that sucker off. I'd much rather be unsatisfied than acting like that ever again, and that's what is really motivating me.

 

[MiamiMom63]

I think for some that are having a harder time, 3.7v vaping just isn't enough. I recommend vaping something like an atomizer at 3.0 or 3.5 ohm at 5v or 5.5v. A variable voltage device. I just know 3.7 barely kissed my lips before I could vape at high voltage and finally get a thump in my chest and on my throat. Even today my friend was vaping an EGO with a vision and I let her try my Provari vaping at 6v with a IKV Cannon 3.5 ohm atomizer and she was in absolute heaven. And the juice I use was only 8 mgs. nicotine and she vapes 24 mgs. But she called me afterwards on my cell phone and called me a B^+ch because she absolutely loved it and can't seem satisfied now with her ego twist with a vision. High Voltage vaping is a must for some of us, and I am one of those that really needs it.

 

[MiamiMom63]

That's another thing, if you vape high voltage, you really don't need high nicotine at all to be satisfied. It's much easier to drop your nic level. I smoked 30 plus years and I love high voltage vaping. At our vape meets here in South Florida there was a woman that smoked about 40 yrs and she wasn't satisfied. I got her vaping at high voltage her same juice and she was completely satisfied then.

 

[danzac]

Mike, so glad you made this thread. My sis is in the same boat and I'm trying to help her quit. She smoked since she was 17 yrs and now is 67 yrs. I take care of her and worry for her health not being what it should be. Following your post and all the support from the members are helping us too! Keep the faith. We will if you do!

 

[kailey_elise]

They say that quitting smoking is harder than quitting ...... (can I say that if it's related to a statistic of relapses?), and I didn't believe it until I started doing some research, and having given vaping a shot.

Nah, you still can't say it, but yes, it is easier to stop 'riding the horse' *smirk* than it is to quit smoking; case in point - until I started vaping, I was still smoking.

 

[Hunters Friend]

Been a LONG time since I was here but I never forgot about this thread or the folks in it.

So here is the update and where I am.

Tomorrow will be the first honest attempt that I will make in dropping cigarettes permanently. I have been going back and forth back and forth between the analogs and the vapes since August. There are times when I am cruising along and doing great and then for no apparent reason I fall off the horse and right back in with these Marlboro Reds.

One of the other reasons for the extended absence is twofold. 1. I made a trip overseas and they confiscated my eGo Twists at the gate telling me they were not legal! Anyone know anything about this? So here I was overseas for 6 weeks and no eCigs to be found. My final destination was Turkey and they were illegal there as well.

The second thing that kept me away was our neighbor sold their resort and since we do a lot of events together it kind of threw things up in the air with me/us.

So now, I am back. I am pleased to report that life is going along better than it was when I started this thread and I am working on plans to move forward with this gathering at our place.

I am also so convinced in the power of these devices and their ability to help others quit like myself, I am going to see about offering them to our guests as a gift.

So I am open to ideas from everyone on what I have posted. Dates for a gathering, ideas for the type of gift I could reasonably offer, etc.

Thanks and nice to see you all again, Mike

 

[John D in CT]

HF, nice to see you again.

I'm a big fan of science, logic, and reason, and it seems to me the easiest and most effective course of action for you to give me a call so I can tell you exactly what I think you should get so that you can have a good vape going in the shortest amount of time. I have long said that a good vape beats a smoke every time, because you will very likely find that the good vape is simply more enjoyable. It's really just that simple. My money is on the Reds losing (and not in extra innings).

Phone numbers sent.

(For anyone prepared to beeyatch about info not being shared in the thread, I would be recording the conversation and posting a link to it here).

 

[MiamiMom63]

Hunter's Friend, I've been watching this post for awhile. If you taste burnt plastic when you vape then something is definitely wrong. I hope you figure out what the problem is because there is so much great tasting juices out there for you. I hope you get your vape on soon You mentioned you had EGO Twists. If you tasted burnt, my first impression would be you possibly had the voltage too high for whatever cart/clearo you were using. It's hard to say without knowing specifics as far as what cart/clearo you have used. Hopefully John D can help you.

 

[MiamiMom63]

Or post in here the specifics as far as ohms for the cart/ clearo you used and what voltage you were vaping at, etc.

 

[John D in CT]

This thread's getting kinda long, so I'll just throw this out there again, with a little bit added since last time:

*****

Consider the three heads in the Vivi Nova; 1.8, 2.4, and 2.8 ohms:

With a Joyetech eGo-C Twist, or any other variable voltage device, you can achieve any wattage you need to get a good vape, even if the "actual" resistance of the "heads" varies from the "nominal" resistance of the heads, which it almost always does.

I'd say that most people vape at between 4 and 8 watts per coil. Notice how 6 watts can be produced with a Joyetech eGo-C Twist (or any other variable voltage device) with any of those three atomizer heads. This obviously can't be done with a constant-voltage battery.

3.28 volts x 3.28 volts / 1.8 ohms = 6 watts

3.79 volts x 3.79 volts / 2.4 ohms = 6 watts

4.09 volts x 4.09 volts / 2.8 ohms = 6 watts

Again, a constant voltage device obviously cannot do this, so please do not buy one unless you MUST have a ciggie-look-alike".

Or with a Twist and a Vivi Nova with the 2.4 ohm atomizer head:

3.79 volts x 3.79 volts / 2.4 ohms = 6 watts.

4.09 volts x 4.09 volts / 2.4 ohms = 7 watts.

4.38 volts x 4.38 volts / 2.4 ohms = 8 watts.

In rounder numbers: 3.8 volts gives you 6 watts, 4.1 = 7 watts, 4.4 = 8 watts.

(In "real life" though, you just turn the knob until you like the vape).

*****

Here is a thread that explains why the Joyetech eGo-C Twist is indeed IMO a "game-changer":

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sion/302432-why-ego-c-twist-game-changer.html

Here are more YouTube reviews of the Twist - all very positive:

Joyetech Ego-C Twist Torture Review - YouTube

New Ego-C Twist VV Review - Ego Variable Voltage - YouTube

Review of the Ego-C Twist - YouTube

eGo-C Twist Review - YouTube

The Joy eGo-C Twist VV at GoodProphets Review.mp4 - YouTube

VaporChase Review - Joyetech eGo-C Twist from Vaporus - YouTube

And lastly, PLEASE read this thread from last night where I give some very specific recommendations:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/321209-brand-new-here-many-questions.html

Short version:

(3) Joyetch eGo-C Twists, 650mah (bare minimum of two plus a spare)
(2) Joyetech chargers (backup, backup, backup)
(1-5) Vivi Nova 3.5ml Version 2.5 tank/atomizers (they come with three atomizers of varying resistances)

Juice. Lots and lots of juice. 12-18mg, 80/20 PG/VG is a good starting point.

Optional, but HIGHLY recommended: lanyard -for wearing your setup around your neck, and a trim ring to hold the lanyard, and dress up the connection between the Vivi Nova and the Twist.

 

[John D in CT]

Separate post since some people seem to have a hard time with long posts, so I'd better not be intentionally complicit in anyone's allowing themselves to become annoyed over someone trying to help other people:

*****

There are obviously hundreds of vendors and thousands of flavors, but some of my favorite vendors/flavors are:

Backwoods Brew:

Virginia
Menthol Tobacco (great for mixing in with other Tobacco flavors, if it's too "mentholly" for you straight)
Honey Flue Nut (yum)
ROOT BEER (yum, yum)

Tasty Vapor:

Geoff's Blend (wow)
Atomic Cinnacide (like an Atomic Fireball. YUM! for six months, but then you can't even stand to smell it any more).
Kretek Clove (WOW - but it doesn't "keep" very well IMO - but again, WOW)

(Tasty Vapor is great because of their "Doublers"; flavored zero-nic juice that is 4x cheaper than the nicotinized corresponding flavors, so you can get the nic flavor in 48mg and save huge $$ (ends up being $6.35/oz.) (!) by mixing the 48mg w/ the Doubler, which is more like "Quadrupler" at approx. 10 mg strength).

Or you can go through either of these threads, where you'll find LOTS of recommendations:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/237068-name-your-fav-flavor.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo.../215923-what-flavor-you-vaping-right-now.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-liquid-discussion/302383-best-clove-juice.html (I like clove)

 

[flintlock62]

John was very instrumental in getting me started in the right direction.

Thanks, John!

HF, nice to see you again.

I'm a big fan of science, logic, and reason, and it seems to me the easiest and most effective course of action for you to give me a call so I can tell you exactly what I think you should get so that you can have a good vape going in the shortest amount of time. I have long said that a good vape beats a smoke every time, because you will very likely find that the good vape is simply more enjoyable. It's really just that simple. My money is on the Reds losing (and not in extra innings).

Phone numbers sent.

(For anyone prepared to beeyatch about info not being shared in the thread, I would be recording the conversation and posting a link to it here).

 

[Hunters Friend]

At this time I am using 2 eGo Twists and have found a flavor that I can tolerate pretty well.

Other than the ridiculously high price it is a decent match for me. The flavor is called Naked and it is in 31.5 strength. Pure VG and nothing else.

I picked up my bottle from CigNot along with a bottle of ECO Pure and a bottle of toffee flavor.

So far, the day is going good without a single problem. (Okay, I was jonesin pretty bad this morning when I woke up but beyond that, I settled down and got to work.)

Think I am going to be okay.

 

[Hoosier]

So, basically, it is a flavor search now to find something better than tolerable and hopefully great.

Sounds like you're on your way to me.

 

[John D in CT]

At this time I am using 2 eGo Twists and have found a flavor that I can tolerate pretty well.

Other than the ridiculously high price it is a decent match for me. The flavor is called Naked and it is in 31.5 strength. Pure VG and nothing else.

I picked up my bottle from CigNot along with a bottle of ECO Pure and a bottle of toffee flavor.

So far, the day is going good without a single problem. (Okay, I was jonesin pretty bad this morning when I woke up but beyond that, I settled down and got to work.)

Think I am going to be okay.

31.5mg? Wowee-zowee - how's the weather up there?

Hey, I'm sitting by my phone. Please give me a call. I'd like to hear all about your gear .... I don't even know what attachment you're using ..... I just want you to have the best vape possible ..... period .... end of story ........

You've got my numbers in your inbox ... let's get this party started .... time's a wastin' ....... go for it ....... "dite moi, si'il vous plait"

Let's change that from "[You] think [you're] going to be okay" to "I'm pretty ******* sure that you're going to have a stellar vape going on real soon that's going to make those freakin' stinkies you now think you love so much look, taste, and smell like the disgusting, cancer-inducing pieces of crap that they are."

TIA, John

 

[John D in CT]

John was very instrumental in getting me started in the right direction.

Thanks, John!

No worries, mate.

 

[Hunters Friend]

LOL - yeah, don't know if you seen the post from me back at the beginning but the short of it is this.

I was a really heavy smoker. Never less than 2 PADs Marlboros. Often it would be completely reasonable for me to blow up 3 packs and depending on the circumstances - even 4 now and then.

I am one of the most seriously hooked people on cigarettes I know of. Even smokers used to chastise me about my smoking.

Anyway, the group (posters here on the forum) felt it was reasonable for me to start out with a high concentration of nicotine and see where it took me from there.

It has been working and has brought me to this point. The first time since I was 15 (32 years ago) that I may make it to 24 hours without a cigarette. It would be an astounding accomplishment to me as I had hit the wall of hopelessness.

So 7 hours from now is what I am shooting for. That will be a milestone for me.

 

[Sonso]

This is just a suggestion and I don't know a lot about vaping yet but I sure do know about regular cigarettes. I think one reason this might have gone smoothly for me is that I have been rolling my own smokes for several years. The tobacco I use was additive free for the most part. You might try smoking a brand that is grown in a cleaner way. Even if you don't roll your own a switch could be beneficial. If you are as hardcore as I was you'll will smoke anything rather than go without. Make yourself do it and then combine the vaping with it. It may be some of the other chemicals in your regular brand that you are missing. I know it's like kicking out an old friend but anything is worth a try. Keep trying! And btw this forums is just a great place as I'm finding out very quickly.
Oh and I will here that I chain smoked for 49 years. I never went without a smoke if I was awake.

 

[Hoosier]

Oh, I remember you HF, and your story. I even remember looking up your place and thought it looked like a nice place to visit.

There have been a few folks on here with habits like yours that have made a complete switch to vaping. Some others that use snus or other methods of getting WTA's along with vaping. I may be one of the few that doesn't think that 24mg is "high" since I couldn't make the switch to vaping until I went twice that.

I'm just glad you came back to update us. Now the real question I have is, what does Naked taste like? It's an interesting name...

 

[John D in CT]

LOL - yeah, don't know if you seen the post from me back at the beginning but the short of it is this.

I was a really heavy smoker. Never less than 2 PADs Marlboros. Often it would be completely reasonable for me to blow up 3 packs and depending on the circumstances - even 4 now and then.

I am one of the most seriously hooked people on cigarettes I know of. Even smokers used to chastise me about my smoking.

Anyway, the group (posters here on the forum) felt it was reasonable for me to start out with a high concentration of nicotine and see where it took me from there.

It has been working and has brought me to this point. The first time since I was 15 (32 years ago) that I may make it to 24 hours without a cigarette. It would be an astounding accomplishment to me as I had hit the wall of hopelessness.

So 7 hours from now is what I am shooting for. That will be a milestone for me.

What kind of attachment are you using? Cartomizer? Cartomizer in a tank? Vivi Nova? Clearomizer? EMDCC? Odysseus? Penelope? Bulli A2-TM? Phoenix? Vision clearo? Something else? Single coil? Dual coil? What resistance? Horizontal coil or coils? Vertical coil or coils?

Just curious. Thx.