I am wondering

[imeothanasis]

I started to read things on ECF. I read some posts from specific people and I also see advertisments on sites saying that the liquid has a better taste when atomizer is feeded from its big hole where the mouthpiece goes.




Maybe the opossite happens so read but think

And the most important. Try before you deside

 

[psl_shawn]

well direct dripping is going to be stronger in taste and TH because its not being diluted by a filter in a cart or carto

 

[5cardstud]

I often wondered about tha too Imeo.

 

[B-Rad_The_Mad_Vapr]

IDK I am VERY fond of my AVS

 

[imeothanasis]

well direct dripping is going to be stronger in taste and TH because its not being diluted by a filter in a cart or carto

What do you mean by the word "filter" psl? Liquid is not diluted by anything if you feed the atty from its small breathing holes.
China made atomizers and they feed them from the big hole. We just changed and improved this prossedure.

 

[JohnUK]

well direct dripping is going to be stronger in taste and TH because its not being diluted by a filter in a cart or carto

Well I direct drip a cisco 306(best kept wet) yet I get more flavor from a LR 510 carto(best kept moist/not soaking wet) IMO but that may be just me YMMV

It must be being fed from the bottom as in AVS the atty maintains a wet status always so taste is improved or at least kept consistent I think, or maybe I talk a lot of BS and have know idea really lol

 

[hifistud]

There's an awful lot of rubbish spouted. For instance, someone wrote that you get a better throat hit using a specific kind of drip tip - that the drip tip alone is responsible for the increased throat hit.

I've tried all ways to work out how that could be the case, and I can't - it makes no sense. Sure, it's entirely possible that better juice delivery might increase TH, by presenting more juice to the coil, but that's more to do with technique than a better drip tip.

Anyway, in terms of flavour, vapour and throat hit, I've yet to find anything that pulls all three together better than an LR901 in the AVS atop at GGTS with a top quality 18650 in it. I'm awaiting a Cisco 901LR - that may be a bit better than the current LR901 - we'll see... And I'll be doing an unboxing type show on it at Sublime Vapours on USTREAM: The UK based Electronic Cigarette channel - reviews, news and comment for beginners and experts alike.. as soon as it arrives - it'll be installed into the AVS totally live, with no rehearsal run-through or anything... Should be a damned good test of everything concerned!!

 

[B-Rad_The_Mad_Vapr]

You can increase TH w/ higher nic content. I'm loving 7.4v w/ a 4.2ohm atty in my AVS currently.

 

[hifistud]

Throat hit?? Cisco 901 in the AVS at 3.7v is a killer!!

 

[Mauvemarauder]

There's an awful lot of rubbish spouted. For instance, someone wrote that you get a better throat hit using a specific kind of drip tip - that the drip tip alone is responsible for the increased throat hit.

I've tried all ways to work out how that could be the case, and I can't - it makes no sense. Sure, it's entirely possible that better juice delivery might increase TH, by presenting more juice to the coil, but that's more to do with technique than a better drip tip.

Anyway, in terms of flavour, vapour and throat hit, I've yet to find anything that pulls all three together better than an LR901 in the AVS atop at GGTS with a top quality 18650 in it. I'm awaiting a Cisco 901LR - that may be a bit better than the current LR901 - we'll see... And I'll be doing an unboxing type show on it at Sublime Vapours on USTREAM: The UK based Electronic Cigarette channel - reviews, news and comment for beginners and experts alike.. as soon as it arrives - it'll be installed into the AVS totally live, with no rehearsal run-through or anything... Should be a damned good test of everything concerned!!

Actually hifistud, the claim of getting a better throat hit from a specific drip tip may not be rubbish.

Anything that changes air flow, pressure or temperature (drip tip material, design, length etc...) may affect taste and or throat hit. I'll use as an example having the cylinder head(s) of a car engine "ported" (here's a very informative Wikipedia link on the subject: Cylinder head porting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Though the small volume, low pressure and short travel distance of the air passing through the drip tip would preclude most people from noticing any change in performance switching from one drip tip to another, I'm sure there are those for whom it makes a difference.

Just as there are some wine enthusiastes who can not only identify the type and vintage but also the specific vinyard / field where the grapes of the wine they're tasting were grown, and just as there are some audiophiles who can tell whether a drummer is playing his drums using wood, plastic or ivory drumsticks, you can bet your bottom dollar that we have on this forum vaping enthusiastes who can tell the difference between different style drip tips!

PS: Unfortunately, I'm defintely NOT one of them

 

[imeothanasis]

There's an awful lot of rubbish spouted. For instance, someone wrote that you get a better throat hit using a specific kind of drip tip - that the drip tip alone is responsible for the increased throat hit.

I've tried all ways to work out how that could be the case, and I can't - it makes no sense. Sure, it's entirely possible that better juice delivery might increase TH, by presenting more juice to the coil, but that's more to do with technique than a better drip tip.

I have seen a supplier saying that V=I/R. Another simple user said that AW batteries 3,7 volt hit better than 2xcr123 3 volt. Maybe I will stop reading again !

 

[imeothanasis]

Actually hifistud, the claim of getting a better throat hit from a specific drip tip may not be rubbish.

Anything that changes air flow, pressure or temperature (drip tip material, design, length etc...) may affect taste and or throat hit. I'll use as an example having the cylinder head(s) of a car engine "ported" (here's a very informative Wikipedia link on the subject: Cylinder head porting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Though the small volume, low pressure and short travel distance of the air passing through the drip tip would preclude most people from noticing any change in performance switching from one drip tip to another, I'm sure there are those for whom it makes a difference.

Just as there are some wine enthusiastes who can not only identify the type and vintage but also the specific vinyard / field where the grapes of the wine they're tasting were grown, and just as there are some audiophiles who can tell whether a drummer is playing his drums using wood, plastic or ivory drumsticks, you can bet your bottom dollar that we have on this forum vaping enthusiastes who can tell the difference between different style drip tips!

PS: Unfortunately, I'm defintely NOT one of them

I agree buddy, but if you really want to change the air flow you have to make a strange difficult construction, not a simple mouthpiece with a hole inside. If you have notice, 2 mm hole is just the same as a 10mm hole when you suck from a mouthpiece.

 

[Mauvemarauder]

I agree buddy, but if you really want to change the air flow you have to make a strange difficult construction, not a simple mouthpiece with a hole inside. If you have notice, 2 mm hole is just the same as a 10mm hole when you suck from a mouthpiece.

You're absolutely right, Imeo. My point was simply that though most of us wouldn't be able to tell the difference, there are some people who can...

For what it's worth, I can't tell the difference between Coca-Cola and Pepsi!

 

[imeothanasis]

You're absolutely right, Imeo. My point was simply that though most of us wouldn't be able to tell the difference, there are some people who can...

For what it's worth, I can't tell the difference between Coca-Cola and Pepsi!

xaxaxa, yes Mau, I can do that too!!

 

[hifistud]

The point here, though, is that, while we can actually test the master of wine's ability to identify grape and vintage in a blind tasting, we cannot do the same for someone claiming better throat hit from a given uber-drip-tip that costs three times what a normal one does. Where all other factors remain the same, as Imeo has pointed out, airflow and the topography thereof can be the only variable. That may or may not affect duration and velocity of the draw - but I have grave doubts that such variations are either major or significant in terms of throat hit.

I do, though, think the price may affect throat hit!! And, obviously, a solid platinum drip tip encrusted with rare pink diamonds would give the best throat hit of all....

 

[imeothanasis]

And, obviously, a solid platinum drip tip encrusted with rare pink diamonds would give the best throat hit of all....

yes , the best hif

 

[JohnUK]

I'm tiered of these claims I read often,

you cant use LR above 3.7v,why? I do all the time.

Voltage makes no diff,why? have you tried a regular 510@3.?? volts I have and it's BS!!

Of cause it depends on resistance voltage and current but these things are conjecture if you don't explain,I could but I don't have time,RY4 is waiting lol

 

[Automaton]

It's not that you *can't* use an LR above 3.7v, it's just that it makes it more likely to pop. But people all have very individual experiences with how long atties last and how much abuse they can take. Just like my eGo experience with LR's. I killed an eGo within a week vaping with an LR, and that happens to lots of other people. Others do it for months and have no problems at all.

Someone said voltage makes no difference?? That's just... weird.

I can't say I've noticed a difference between drip tips, but I've only tried a couple. I do notice a difference with an eGo with the cone on, vs. cone off. Some people don't. It's not a *huge* difference, but I can tell.

People should just do what works for them...

 

[rogerdugans]

Just to chime in since I am back home now-
I haven't dripped all that much but essentially I think the AVS does the same thing as dripping without constantly messing with juice:

It keeps the atty or carto moist so I can vape to my hearts content.

(Note that I realize the mechanics of how dripping and an AVS work are completely different- but the goal is the same in both cases: vaping with good flavor and vapor.)

As for the side topic of drip tips... all of my dripping was done with a carto mounthpiece or right on the atty so I have no experience with drip tip performance.

And telling Coke from Pepsi is easy- I regulalry annoyed the Pepsi Challenge people when I was a child.

 

[Mauvemarauder]

The point here, though, is that, while we can actually test the master of wine's ability to identify grape and vintage in a blind tasting, we cannot do the same for someone claiming better throat hit from a given uber-drip-tip that costs three times what a normal one does. Where all other factors remain the same, as Imeo has pointed out, airflow and the topography thereof can be the only variable. That may or may not affect duration and velocity of the draw - but I have grave doubts that such variations are either major or significant in terms of throat hit.

I do, though, think the price may affect throat hit!! And, obviously, a solid platinum drip tip encrusted with rare pink diamonds would give the best throat hit of all....

I agree wholeheartedly hifistud. Which is why I stated most people would be unable to discern a difference. I also purposely did not include price or esthetics in the equation. All too often our judgement is unduly influenced by those.

I will, however, respectfully disagree that we cannot actually test one's claim of getting a better throat hit from a particular drip tip.

A very simple blindfold test would suffice: Have the blindfolded "vaper" take one or two inhales from an atomizer using one drip tip, then have a "tester" switch drip tips. Repeat the process until the "vaper" has vaped from every drip tip to be tested.

The first round would be trial run to calibrate the vapers' senses. Drip tips would not be identifed or rated. However, during each ensuing round, the tester who is not blindfolded, will ask the vaper to rate the throat hit of each drip tip he uses on a scale from 1 to 10 and record the results.

If the tips are given to the blindfolded vaper in different order every round, and after several (let's say 10) rounds the vaper consistantly rates the same two models higher and lower then average, you can assume the vaper does have the ability to distinguish the difference in drip tip throat hit levels and that there are some drip tips that deliver, on average, either more less throat hit then others...