I can understand why people want to ban Esmoking!

[BestLion]

Ok, At first I thougth these were a great alternative..and they are..BUT I can see why people-Governors-Senators-Presidents-congressmen-Church goes- are out to pose a ban on these.. they are extremely addictive! yes coffee is addictive and so is porn..but these thing are very highly addictive. i smoke-puff 4-5X more as an epuffer then i did as a real puffer! I burn 7-10ml a day of ejuice- during a noraml day i can't under any circumstance go more then 30 minutes without a drag. I am tending to think these esmokes are more addictive then regular normal analog cigarettes.
Now I wouldn't be for the ban..but I can maybe see why people want to ban them.
Also with that said i do encourage people to smoke these..non smokers alike. They are very pleasant and enjoyable !

 

[Pav]

I know a guy who is addicted to Mountain Dew. They should ban that as well.

 

[BestLion]

I know a guy who is addicted to Mountain Dew. They should ban that as well.

I see your drift but their is a difference at least in the eyes of the public..they see people esmoking and then add people are addicted to it..receipt for disaster.

 

[JupiterV]

An addict is an addict is an addict. vaping is a non harmful addiction.

 

[DarkKarma]

7-10ml a day? Well so much for you saving money. I would try upping the nic level though.

 

[psl_shawn]

7-10 ml a day??? wow not even sure how you do that but you know what IT'S NONE OF MY DAMN BUISNESS!! and it shouldnt be anyone elses.

people need to remember why cigerettes were banned in public places, it wasn't because they were addictive or bad for you it was because of second hand smoke, show me the second hand smoke on e-cigs.... no now it's just people who think they have a right to tell others what todo.


now as to why politicians are against them, easy between big tobacco,big pharmacy and taxes on real cigerettes every politician is affected by people who quit smoking.

why is the church against them? thats easy the church is against anything that people enjoy doing all the way down to protected sex.

banning e-cigs without a study finding a major health concern is just another step to you being told what you can eat and drink.

 

[Automaton]

I probably vape a little less than I smoked. Some people vape way less. Some vape more.

E-cigs aren't more addictive than cigs. It depends on the person doing it. I know I feel less addicted, and vaping would be leaps and bounds easier to quit than cigs.

I didn't vape at all for 3 days while I was sick. It hurt. So I stopped. I was a little grumpy, but I was sick. And I wasn't as deranged and ticked off as I would be after 3 days without cigarettes.

When I was a smoker and got sick (which happened a lot), I'd try not to smoke but within 12 hours I was torturing myself trying to choke down a cigarette. I just couldn't go a whole day.

I don't quit because I don't especially want to right now. But I sure as hell am not more addicted to vaping than I was to cigs.

 

[mistinthewoods]

To use 10 ml a day I'd have to be gargling with the stuff. I have a PV in my hand just about every waking moment and the most I can go through is about 5 ml in a day.
Why the hell do Americans think the answer to all of the perceived Ills in society is to ban something? Has that ever worked? Ever? Since we started making everything illegal has prostitution, drugs alcohol or violent acts against one another gone away?
This society can be so reactionary and stupid.

 

[UntamedRose]

I really dont think the people interested in banning ecigs are interested in doing so b/c Some people hit their ecigs up more then others.
I doubt they know that fact, as most of the folks looking to ban are either knee jerk idiots who havn't bothered to learn about ecigs, or those who stand loose money should ecigs be free market and legal.

 

[mistinthewoods]

I really dont think the people interested in banning ecigs are interested in doing so b/c Some people hit their ecigs up more then others.
I doubt they know that fact, as most of the folks looking to ban are either knee jerk idiots who havn't bothered to learn about ecigs, or those who stand loose money should ecigs be free market and legal.

Yeah, that's what it's all about.

 

[FreeFlow]

I really dont think the people interested in banning ecigs are interested in doing so b/c Some people hit their ecigs up more then others.
I doubt they know that fact, as most of the folks looking to ban are either knee jerk idiots who havn't bothered to learn about ecigs, or those who stand loose money should ecigs be free market and legal.

yup yup yup

+1000

 

[house mouse]

Ok, At first I thougth these were a great alternative..and they are..BUT I can see why people-Governors-Senators-Presidents-congressmen-Church goes- are out to pose a ban on these.. they are extremely addictive! yes coffee is addictive and so is porn..but these thing are very highly addictive. i smoke-puff 4-5X more as an epuffer then i did as a real puffer! I burn 7-10ml a day of ejuice- during a noraml day i can't under any circumstance go more then 30 minutes without a drag. I am tending to think these esmokes are more addictive then regular normal analog cigarettes.
Now I wouldn't be for the ban..but I can maybe see why people want to ban them.
Also with that said i do encourage people to smoke these..non smokers alike. They are very pleasant and enjoyable !

You've been using them a month now, maybe? In the beginning it's a combination of coming off the analogs and having a new toy to play with, or so it was with me, that will keep it in your mouth a LOT. I just went with it, cause it is a far cry better than analogs. After a while I did notice myself using it less than before, so I cut the nic level down. Then I was back to using it non-stop, then it kinda tapered off so I cut the nic again. Back to using it a lot. Wash, rinse, repeat and I should be able to wean myself down to 0mg. You may still be in the withdrawal/toy phase, you may need more nicotine than what you're currently using. I've only been using it 2 months so far, but that's kind of the pattern I noticed with myself. However, I would never encourage a non-smoker to pick one up and start using it. That's a sure fire way for the FDA to turn up the heat, if they start being marketed to people who don't smoke.

 

[Automaton]

Why the hell do Americans think the answer to all of the perceived Ills in society is to ban something? Has that ever worked? Ever? Since we started making everything illegal has prostitution, drugs alcohol or violent acts against one another gone away?
This society can be so reactionary and stupid.

This.

Can anyone give me even one example of when prohibition has ever worked? Or even made the so-called problem less prevalent? In most cases, it just makes it a million times worse. All prohibition does is fuel the black market, and crime by extension.

Besides that, I am so sick of government telling adults that they need to be protected from themselves.

 

[t9c]

I don't know a single smoker who wants to or would want to ban the e-cig. They may or may not be interested in using one themselves, and that's their own damn business. I can agree to disagree with them, and that's MY own damn business. Anyone see where this is leading?

That's right...it's those people who stick their noses into someone else's damn business who want to ban the e-cig.

To them I say "Mind your OWN damn business!"

 

[banjo]

I've got 5 PVs on my desk here at work, each with a different juice, and I vape a fair amount during the day, but I only use about 2 to 3ml of juice. I would need a garden hose & a car battery to reach 6 to 10ml a day.

 

[tj1100cl]

weird. i thought i just answered this, but i don't see me. here goes again:

there are 3 reasons why "they" want to ban e-cigs:

1. "they" are affiliated with Big Tobacco, and don't want people to learn just how much better e-cigs are than cancer stix.
2. "they" are affiliated with Big Insurance, and don't want these to be classified as "smoking cessation" devices
3. "they" are simply ignorant, and believe the propaganda by the FDA telling people there's ANTIFREEZE in them.

vapers need to be much more vocal and noticeable, so that people will see and ask. THEN we can spread some TRUTH to combat the lies and nonsense.

only WE will be able to make the gen.pop. aware that vaping is completely different than smoking.
only honest vendors who wish to become reputable, can make and distribute the products that will define the industry.

e-juice technology has evolved significantly since it's origin, and most "common knowledge" is based on old technology distorted by rumors. with VG and well-known flavorings as the ingredients for the majority of e-juice now, it's can easily be shown to be a much more "natural" product, than simply an electronic version of another stick full of "mystery chemicals".

regardless, addictions are not illegal. people are addicted to sugar, caffeine, football, Jebus, .........ing, etc. this is just another attack from control freaks who like to dictate the lives of others.

 

[grandmato5]

People/politicians/countries want to ban PV's because:

#1- They see them as just another version of a cigarette with all the same negative health issues as cigarettes to the user and those around them. Add to this we vape fruit, candy, and other good tasting flavors so many beleive those flavors are used with the sole purpose of tempting children into using them.
#2- They literally beleive everything they read stated by the FDA
#3-Tobacco companies and pharmcetical companies see them as a threat to their profitability.

 

[Slea]

Holy cow! I feel a lot better about my 3mls a day now, I can tell you that.

And I'm not buying "more addictive." Used to be, I couldn't make it through dinner without a cigarette. Now, I go through my whole work day without touching or even *thinking about* my ecig.

 

[Ciego]

Another reason some people want to ban PV is because they have been foiled. They won a huge battle by getting smoking banned nearly everywhere (even in outdoor locations where sidestream smoke would not harm anyone). They have enacted huge tax increases on cigarettes. Here in Minnesota, our governor who promised "no new taxes" promptly imposed a $.75 per pack "use fee" on smokers.

The e-cigarette steals their thunder. They complained, and technology answered with a safer alternative that destroys much of their anti-smoking arguments. They can't stand it. They have to have _something_ about which to be "activists," so they stomp their feet and pump their fists in the air. They are like spoiled children who have had a favorite toy taken from them.

This nation was, I believe not founded on tolerance. Our government (us) has consistently tried to micromanage everything from our vices to our bedrooms. Tax laws make us all slaves without real opportunity to truly succeed. Cops are interventionists rather than investigators now, and even our courts allow conviction on the basis of "intention." Who knows another's intentions?

I am stockpiling everything from e-juice to batteries, because I can say with certainty that these moralistic, blue-nosed busybodies will screw this up for all of us sooner than later.

Worst of all, in this era of the sound bite, "gotcha journalism" and too much misinformation, people are making decisions with their spleens rather than with their brains. We also really, really, really want to make others do our bidding, obey our will, accept any half-cocked opinion as the absolute truth.

Here's an axiom to hold onto:

There is no drug as addictive as power over others.

I may be addicted to nicotine, but I don't need to push around other human beings to get my fix.

Too bad there isn't rehab for power junkies.

 

[Ciego]

Nomad, pure genius and I could not agree more. See my post immediately above.

If one isn't getting regular sex, if life just isn't fun anymore, if you've had to yourself quit drinking/drugs, if you are not intellectually stimulated by our world, the answer is simple: Run somebody else's life.