I didn't want to believe it but its true...

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SnowDragon

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Well Mikey, this just might be a case kharma from your torpedo attack on that rather heated thread last week.:p I have actually read a higher than usual number of post lately on here and at the New Members section over order and shipping issues.

I have never had an issue personally, however I have placed orders within days of each other and within that time the sequential order numbers have changed by 1-2,000. If V4L hits 99% efficiency that still leaves 10-20 orders that may have issues, of which let's say 25% of those get posted on ECF. So 2.5 to 5 posts over issues arise every couple of days that hit the boards. As of late that indeed seems to be the case which is why I still highly recommend V4L to all my friends.

As for hurting or not hurting an e-commerce business on an open forum such as this, that is pendulum that swings both ways. It's pretty easy to tell who is playing the squeaky wheel and who is simply voicing a reasonable service concern. I think it's actually better for dirty laundry to be aired here as opposed to the New Members forum.

Concerns over order or shipping issues here are for the most part discussed rationally amongst long time loyal customers. Where as those new to vaping tend to play the squeaky wheel victim in the New Members section. One must remember that for many new Vapors they are already a little quick on the trigger and an order or shipping issue is the perfect scenario to vent especially if they just gave up analogs.

If you are in business, you know that things do and will go wrong despite your best efforts. Keeping the customer happy after issues arise is what defines quality customer service. I think Wow's recent issue is a perfect example of a dedication to keeping a customer happy.

Keep an eye out for that kharma Mikey...it will getcha everytime! :laugh:
 
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Darrigaaz

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As for hurting or not hurting an e-commerce business on an open forum such as this, that is pendulum that swings both ways. It's pretty easy to tell who is playing the squeaky wheel and who is simply voicing a reasonable service concern.

I will agree partially with that it's pretty easy to tell who is playing the squeaky wheel and who is simply voicing a reasonable service concern, to those of us who frequent these forums on a regular basis. It's those that are just starting out and trying to pick a good vendor to start with, and just read the first page of each vendor subsection, that I'm saying would be put off by threads such as these. With over 50+ vendors on the approved suppliers list, is somebody going to spend hours pouring over each one to find a good one, or just scan the first page to get a general feel of how the business works based on customer feedback?
 

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LOL. Her is what my delivery confirmation says:

Detailed Results:

Processed through Sort Facility, September 22, 2010, 10:16 pm, ELK GROVE VILLAGE, IL 60007
Electronic Shipping Info Received, September 23, 2010


Processed before Electronic Info R'cd. Ya gotta love the good ol USPS.

They really got it together huh? Gives you peace of mind to know they're handling your possessions with such precision. :)
 
What a coincidence. I just finished sending an email to customer service. I, too, have always had extremely quick shipping from V4L. My last order, however, somehow went from Elk Grove to being out for delivery, to being missent, back to Elk Grove, then on to New Jersey....? When I called USPS, she had no idea why there were over 18 scans on it.

This time I made sure to track my latest order right away. It was shipped and picked up this morning-then MISSENT!!! I called USPS, they said it is being returned to sender. So my guess is either the bar code is not matching up with the address (which was correct on the package last time) or there are a bunch of idiots working in the Elk Grove facility. I am betting on the second choice.

I sure wish there was a way to use UPS. At least our tracking system is up to the second and you can always know exactly where it is.
 

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Just great what in the HELLO is my package doing in Puerto Rico?

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Processed through Sort Facility, September 23, 2010, 8:46 pm, CATANO, PR 00962
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Processed through Sort Facility, September 21, 2010, 4:35 pm, ELK GROVE VILLAGE, IL 60007
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Electronic Shipping Info Received, September 15, 2010
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Shipment Accepted, September 15, 2010, 5:41 pm, NORTHBROOK, IL 60062

Chad...Mark...Steve... anyone HELP lol my package has gone rogue across the border!

Chad trying to find you on forums to send PM...if you don't get it please PM me! Thanks ahead of time!
 

MikeyB

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It's not in PR.

I'm entirely uncertain how you could have been here since May and not grasp the "NOT A TRACKING NUMBER - IT'S A DELIVERY CONFIRMATION" concept, but ... On we go!

Are you really going to say that? Are you really going to think that my order is where it is suppose to be when normally it takes 3-4 days and some how this time it has been almost 11 (after 3 today), so thanks for your rude comment but I think USPS has screwed me over. I live on the same side of the US as V4L, if it takes this long then USPS has messed some thing up, you being in CA would be understandable, but me in GA and oh been here since may since that determines my shipping order and all, does.
 
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