I don't think the EGo is a good beginner setup.

[edyle]

I don't wash my car; totally useless waste of time.

I think a really good starter kit could be made up the looks and fits in a cigarette sized pack containing about 4 cigalike automatic batteries, 4 v-nano clearos, 1 usb charger, and a 10ml needlebottle of eliquid.

The tricky part is finding the right taste for a particular smoker. But once they find a taste, they can make the transition; if it weren't for the cost factor, most would probably stop right there with cigalikes.

 

[Mutescream]

I still use egos, for when I go to work (650mah passthrough). I use a vamo V3 at home. Where I'm at, the b&m charges 2-3x as much for mods as they do for egos. Most people are going to shop b&m, for the customer svc (to start, anyway).

There's more flexibility with egos, so it is a good start point. I like the vamo, but don't want to lug it everywhere with me. Egos are very pocket friendly.

 

[beckdg]

i wanted the form factor and appearance of a cigarette when a buddy of mine quit using cigalikes. then i tried his cigalike and it was horrid... disgusting... and i chain smoked the taste away when i put it down.

i still wanted something small-ish when another buddy quit using an ego... and he let me try it. pretty much the same reaction... blech.

i started with a vamo, an rda, a TCC and a BCC... and i was wanting more even with 36mg/ml juice.

i'm now happily vaping a Reo Grand as my daily driver and content.

so my experience leads me to agree that egos and cigalikes should be banished as they are ineffective. but i have to also entertain the fact that both of them quit with those devices, so it must work for some people.

my only thing is the countless people who've had to continuously waste money upgrading from either of those options. it's tough knowing that an mvp 2 for $40 is much cheaper than many ego kits that people start and fail with before they move up to something more expensive.

but for some people, that's their end game. there's no knowing who that'll be either. so i have to entertain that the person asking may be either or and it may just be a process finding ones bliss. there are tons of options to choose from. hopefully everyone finds theirs early enough in their vaping career.

 

[edyle]

put some crap liquid in your REO, it will still taste like crap.

 

[beckdg]

put some crap liquid in your REO, it will still taste like crap.

thanks for the insight.

however, i was going for something a little different. something more along the lines of even with amazing liquid;

put a dead battery in anything and it will still vape and taste like crap... or;
put a non glazed ceramic drip tip on anything and vape it all day and it'll still taste like crap... or;
put amazing tank cracker juice in cheapo plastic proprietary tanks and it's guaranteed to taste like crap

because those were the scenarios i was dealing with. sub par equipment produced sub par results. the flavor of the juice was irrelevant.

 

[Artus]

I personally think that an ego is a great start, I started with a cig look alike and hated it. Did some research and went with an ego. Got me off regular cigarettes in about a week. Several friends started with the ego's and quit regular smoking also. Now like most of us I went to mods from there, but I still keep a few ego batteries around as a "just in case" or if I am going places I don't want to take a Provari.

 

[Completely Average]

I think a really good starter kit could be made up the looks and fits in a cigarette sized pack containing about 4 cigalike automatic batteries, 4 v-nano clearos, 1 usb charger, and a 10ml needlebottle of eliquid.

And when that 40+ year old woman walks in and you dump all of that out on the counter and tell her she needs it all to vape, how do you think she would react?

Have you ever heard of the K.I.S.S. method? Keep It Simple Stupid. A 10 piece starter kit? Really?

 

[wheelie]

My wife won't use anything but her Ego... she thinks the other models are too large, bulky, or manly haha. She doesn't vape enough to kill an Ego in a day though so it works for her.

Hmmmm Maybe we are married to the same women? LOL

 

[Zealous]

I went through three egos in a week; because if dropping them lol

Not everyone has had your experience though. I have both the regular egos I got when I first moved to egos (started with an Inferno "kit" with crappy ego type batteries & they SUCKED & broke rather quickly). I also have all 3 twists I got shortly after the regular egos. They all still work perfectly.

My personal opinion based on my own experience is that if you buy the genuine model you will get a decent quality battery. Maybe not if you buy a knock off though.

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

Not all egos are unregulated, and there are even variable volt egos out there for the $14 price point you mentioned. I got a $14.95, 650 mAh, variable volt, passthrough ego that came with a clearo that took Evod coils and managed to quit with that. There's no way I could have quit with cigalikes. I smoked a pack a day, which seems to be quite a common number of cigs per day. Variable volts was vital to me as I upped the power when cravings hit.

I tend to suggest the iTaste VV v3 to a lot of of people over in the newbie section. Vaping via watts is even more conistent then just a regulated device. The device will adjust voltage itself according to any drift in ohms that coils experience through use. It's also a passthrough, which means that if they can only afford one it's still doable. Not recommended, but doable. I did it with my cheap $14 ego.

 

[FireDragon1138]

Sounds like a HUGE hassle compared to "Charge it overnight, top off the tank in the morning, and you're good to go for the rest of the day."

Whatever setup you have, you'll have to carry some gear with you if you want reliability with e-cigs. A cartotank could fail, I'd rather be carrying around a few small cartomizers than bottles of e-liquid. I don't see cartotanks at all as convenient. Tanks and clearomizers in general are messy, and with something like nicotine e-liquid, that is hardly convenient.

I'm guessing most people here that are not fans of cigalikes have never even tried a gen 2 KR808 auto battery or Kanger horizontal coil cartomizers. This setups hits about as hard as my Ego and Vivi Nova and are much more consistent.

 

[Zealous]

put some crap liquid in your REO, it will still taste like crap.

What does this have to do with anything since the entire conversation is about ego batteries?

 

[tj99959]

Just understand that there are eGo's, and then there are EGO's, Ego's, and ego's. Only one is trademarked.

I haven't suggested an ego to anyone for over a year because of all the junk out there claiming to be an eGo.
One thing you can count on, no one went out looking for quality parts when they built those ego knockoffs.

 

[Kenho21]

I.Love.eGos

 

[peraspera]

A combination of Twists and cig-alikes is what it took for me to feel comfortable with quitting cigarettes. The Twists provided physical satisfaction while I very much needed the psychological comfort from the familiar cig-alike form factor.

I recommend a combination of an iTaste VV 3.0 as well as an NJOY King for beginners. The NJOYs are ridiculously expensive but they seem to most closely mimic the smoking experience. I tell people if they find themselves needing to depend on the NJOY so much as to be prohibitively expensive to pick up an eRoll to use with high nic juice.

 

[graybuck]

I still use a Twist everyday with an Evod. They work great for a light pocket carry when I am at work or out running around.

 

[SingedVapor]

I wish i had skipped my ego and instead started off with my itaste mvp 2.0. It taught me a lot about vv and vw. I was able to get a MUCH better vape than the ego. At 60 dollars for the kit its a great beginner mod. I never liked the cigalikes mainly because they just made me want a cigarette more. I still use my mvp when im at work because its much more convienient than my nemesis mod. I would recommend the mvp rather than the ego to anyone trying to quit.


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[neutrontech]

Everyone is different. I started with cigalikes and I still smoked. Bought a vision spinner and pt2, and I quit smoking walking out of the vape shop. Now I've got multiple setups, but so use mini egos on a daily basis for work.

The mini ego and mini pt2 are hassle free. I take two with me each day and then throw them on the charger and get refilled when I get home. It doesn't get any simplier than that for me. I do keep an extra battery and bottle of juice in my bag though, but have never needed them.

At home I use more advanced setups unless I'm tired and just want to relax, then the egos work fine for the evening.

Several guys at work tried cigalikes and they felt they were a waste. A couple of those guys then bought cheap knock off egos, and have been vaping them ever since.

While cigalikes would work for you, that's not true for everyone. There is no right answer here. I think if a new person asks you what to get, you should tell them what you think they should get honestly. Then they can ask more people and get their opinions, then come to their own conclusion. Coming up with a hard rule for recommending a starter kit will never work.

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[edyle]

I personally think that an ego is a great start, I started with a cig look alike and hated it. Did some research and went with an ego. Got me off regular cigarettes in about a week. Several friends started with the ego's and quit regular smoking also. Now like most of us I went to mods from there, but I still keep a few ego batteries around as a "just in case" or if I am going places I don't want to take a Provari.

Did you use the same liquid in the cig look alike as with the eGo setup?


Yes it's a rhetorical question.
It's not so much the cigalike that matters it's also what you put in it (and what's already there like the filler/wicking material).

 

[edyle]

Whatever setup you have, you'll have to carry some gear with you if you want reliability with e-cigs. A cartotank could fail, I'd rather be carrying around a few small cartomizers than bottles of e-liquid. I don't see cartotanks at all as convenient. Tanks and clearomizers in general are messy, and with something like nicotine e-liquid, that is hardly convenient.

I'm guessing most people here that are not fans of cigalikes have never even tried a gen 2 KR808 auto battery or Kanger horizontal coil cartomizers. This setups hits about as hard as my Ego and Vivi Nova and are much more consistent.

Yes, cartotanks are not so much a matter of convenience as a matter of COST. It's much more convenient to use cartos than to get more usage out of them by adding a tank, it just going to cost alot more.