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jerseyman32

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Been vaping for a couple months now and its working out well for me , havent had or craved a analog since i started.i want to know the differances between the set up im using now( kanger clearos,disposable coils,ego style batteries) and a r.t.a. set up besides having to rebuild your coils what else is different?
 

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It's not a stupid question. What you'll find is a richer, fuller and generally tastier vape that you can tailor to your needs. That being said, if what you have is working for you, there is absolutely no need to switch. Upfront, you'll spend a lot more money but in the long run, you'll save money by not having to buy new clearos and coils.
 

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Generally a better vape experience. I started on Vivi Nova's, then Protanks and they worked for me for about a year and a half. They probably would have kept working, but I got tired of buying coils and the all to often DOA or short lived ones. Once I took my first draw off my Kayfun, I was hooked, so much cleaner, flavorful tasting vape. My Lemo has taken it a step above the Kayfun with better airflow. There is nothing wrong with the clearo's, but I like knowing I can change my coil and/or wick at will.

There are some good RTA's that can be had for the same price as the clearomizers, that didn't use to be the case. Before it came down to cost savings, more recently it only comes down to how much time you want to put into it.
 

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Thanks everyone, im really just looking for a better taste, i dont plan on any sub-ohm vaping or cloud chasing, but i can see myself fine tuning my vaping experience, with that said im im the market for a box mod that i can use mow and if i start building my own coils etc, from what ive read on here the mvp 2 and isticks are great, but the istick has some issues. What im concerned about if they will provide enough volts or watts for when i start building. What watt range should i be looking for? Im also on a budget so im around a 50 to 75 dollat range. Any suggestions?
 

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I just switched from clearos, making my own coils, to RTA's. I am on a VERY tight budget. If you want to advance to RTA's, I don't know how you can fit it into a budget from twists.

Kanthal A1 Resistance Wire | Lightning Vapes I suggest 29 ga, which is close to what I use.

Many members would be willing to send you some cellucotton. It is bought in large quantities from Sally's Beauty Supply.

Efest IMR 18650 35 A 2500 mAh 3.7V LI-MN High Drain Rechargeable Batte | Lightning Vapes You will need to buy two, at least.

Efest LUC V4 LCD & USB Charger | Lightning Vapes Esssential, LOL!

$13.25 Russian 91% Styled Rebuildable Tank Atomizer (4.5mL) - stainless steel (gold plated) + PC tank / 22mm dia. at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping Get one to get started, and learn on.

https://www.fasttech.com/p/1922001 This is a dual-coil, but the price is right, and you can use it as a single coil with a bit of McGuyvering-- the price is right.

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10009229/1836104-vamo-v5-variable-voltage-wattage-mod

So that sets you at about $100 (not counting shipping charges) for the cheapest setup to go from twist to RTA. Not recommended. You need to advance by stages-- next stage is a regulated mod-- A FT Vamo mod with batteries and charger domestically will, by itself, set you back as much as the top of your budget. But that change will be for the better.

An MVP will serve you well, but can only be bought domestically, and when the battery fails, you toss it.
 
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I use nothing but rebuildables and for me 9 or 10 watts has been all I have ever needed so an MVP would be fine IMO.
I use primarily a kayfun but sometimes I will use a cheap dripper (IGO-L and Smoktech dripper).
I build my coils for 1.5 to 2.0 ohms so I can use an EGO battery if I want to in fact with the Smoktech dripper I only use EGO twist style batteries.
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Been vaping for a couple months now and its working out well for me , havent had or craved a analog since i started.i want to know the differances between the set up im using now( kanger clearos,disposable coils,ego style batteries) and a r.t.a. set up besides having to rebuild your coils what else is different?

It's a common question/thought.

The answers are not obvious:

1: the kanger clearos, disposable coils, ego style batts are more like consumer product grade.
rda's, rta's, rdta's, are not so consumer friendly; and there's basically alot more names/brands/differences between/among rda's/rta's than among the clearos.

2: Refilling the tank:
Refilling a clearo, is easy, just open up and pour the stuff in; a needlebottle is kinda helpfull at first but once you get the hang of it, you just pour; or alot of juice bottles come with needletype/droppertype noses anyway.
On alot of rebuildable tanks, the designed method of filling is via a tiny fill hole of some sort, which basically requires you to spend several minutes to fill the !@#$%^&*! thing.

On the kayfun types, alot of people use the topfill method where
- first you block the airhole with your finger - because if you open the top, all the juice will go down from the tank, up throught the juice channels then down the airhole
- then unscrew the top cap, and pour your juice in; then you screw/starttoscrew on the top cap etc.
The average person is going to have problems with that; alot of people won't notice that the little black rubber seal popped out the tank while they turned away to yell at the kids, so when they reassemble everything, all the juice keeps leaking out;

3: Size really does matter;
If you're used to rebuilding your clearo coils to keep them going and save some money, when you get a rebuildable, it's just so easy to put a coil in compared to trying to rebuild a protank or other clearo coil; you can also make physicaly bigger coils because the space you have to work within is larger.

3.1: Because you have more space, you can fit more coil, hence, with rebuildables you can make bigger coils, that burn more power and make more impact.

3.2: Because you have more space, you can use thicker wire, which will last longer than thin wire - with 34 gauge in a clearo, you might recoil every few weeks, but with 28 gauge on an rba, you can probably run that same coil for months.


But rta's are going to evolve to a clearomizer type consumer product; we see that with a couple new tanks; there's the new squape, which I think comes with 3 build decks; so you can be vaping on one while you build the other, then when you want to 'change coil', you just change out the build deck.

Then there's another tank.. I forget... is it the subtank? it comes with an option buying replaceable coils or rebuilding replaceable coils; I haven't seen the insides of the rebuildable replaceable coils so, I'm still waiting to see it they did it properly.
 

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The NUMBER 1 reason I made the switch is:


No more 2am russian roulette with the last new replacement coil....Is it good or is it a dud!

side effect was a better vape.

i started buying clones and am replacing the good clones with authentic s....So far I owe for 1 Kayfun and one Erlkönigin...(Kayfun is in the mail, erl gets ordered in a week....)
 

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Find the best 20 watt or higher variable device and kayfun clone of choice you can afford. Build a 28 gauge single coil wicked with drug store cotton and fill up the tank with your favorite juice. Find the sweet spot for watts and have one hell of an enjoyable vape that is sure to keep you happy for a while. A proven atomizer with many configuration and accessory options with sufficient fine tunable power. Whether you experiment further or not, you'll have a solid and satisfying setup.
 

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I finally started my rebuildable journey this summer. My daughter bought me an ohms meter for Father's Day ($20 from our local vape shop...$10 online). So I bought a cheap $10 dripper and $5 of Kanthal from my local shop. I experimented for a while, then ordered more wire, a better dripper and a Kayfun. Started rebuilding all of my old (but saved in a jar) PT coils. It takes a bit of trial and error and a little up front cost, but it moves your vaping up a notch. I do advise one step at a time.
 
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