I finally "get" Tanks!

[Dusty_D]

All it took was a dremel tool and slotted cartos. I finally understand how and why these things are so popular.

I've been plagued with tanks that were super tight to get a carto in, or even to take the top and bottom caps off. The DCT's I bought have top and bottom caps that are almost impossible to take off (Spac can testify to this), and even the minor distortion that you get with punching a carto using a saddle valve made it impossible to get the carto into the tank. If I somehow got the carto into the tank, getting it out was a nightmare. I had to resort to using pliers to pull the damn thing apart. Summary: I've never been able to get a carto to work in a tank with the punch a hole or even multiple holes method.

Slotting cartos has solved the issue for me. The dremel cutoff tool slices through the carto shell without any distortion and makes inserting and removal of the carto a breeze. I don't care that the top and bottom caps are tight on the tank, because I never have to take them apart. Filler 'er up, and slide down when refill required.

I also received my custom Phiniac (Black Tall boy with Tribal Taurus symbol and Tribal Initials) yesterday along with a couple of the tank tools for easier filling.

I've been testing and using the DCT tanks for the last week, and I am a happy to report that I am finally a tank convert.

 

[Spac]

Woohoo! Glad to hear my friend!

How long did we spend chatting that night?

Glad all is working as it should.

 

[Illuminatu]

So now Dusty, you can join in the rebuildable Atty wagon

 

[therealcmac]

Yay! I have also found slotting to be the way to go. I get a great vape out of the boge 45mm cartos, and I love being able to just slide a new one in without having to empty the tank.

 

[Mindfield]

Good to hear. I always slot -- I don't like distorting the cartos just on general principle, so slotting retains their shape while giving the juice access to the filler.

The only problem now is the lack of good tank cartos. SmokTech have been a writeoff for months, so I'm thankful Boge finally came out with XL cartos for the big tanks, but even they don't seem to last quite as long as the old SmokTech duals when they were working well. *sigh*

 

[the_vape_nerd]

To make refilling even easier, you can put an xl ce2 in there (slotted) and just refill via top of the carto.

 

[Mindfield]

To make refilling even easier, you can put an xl ce2 in there (slotted) and just refill via top of the carto.

Have you tried this? I've found any number of problems with this:

1) The plastic tube is too large to fit through most tank holes;
2) The cup seal system creates a problem for air pressure -- if you fill tank then insert CE2 (assuming you can get in it), only a small amount of juice will flow into the CE2 because the air pressure can't equalize (no place for the air to go, the top end is sealed off to prevent juice from flooding the cup), and if you fill from the CE2 (syringe), the air pressure in the tank has nowhere to go.
3) If you can solve the pressure equilibrium problem, you still have the juice problem, which is that the pressure from the liquid on the outside of the tank (assuming a 6ml tank) will be greater than the pressure inside the CE2 pushing back, so it's going to fill the CE2 right to the top of the seal which would flood the cup.

I've made a CE2-based tank before but I found the only way it worked is if I cut large "windows" up the sides of the CE2 tube for the juice to flow and reach the wicks and coil. Otherwise the air pressure inside the CE2 tube would prevent more than a dribble of juice from entering the tube.

 

[Dusty_D]

Woohoo! Glad to hear my friend!

How long did we spend chatting that night?

Glad all is working as it should.

2 hours I think it was..

 

[Dusty_D]

So now Dusty, you can join in the rebuildable Atty wagon

Baby steps my friend. I'm just seen the light as far as tanks are concerned. Rebuildables are a whole different ball game although I can so see myself ordering a 100 yard roll of Nichrome wire off ebay!

 

[Dusty_D]

Yay! I have also found slotting to be the way to go.

Good to hear. I always slot

Oh yeah! Go ahead and mention this now why don't y'all?!

Mindfield, what trouble are you having with the SmokTechs? I'm using the single coils in the 1.8 and 2.8 versions, and other than the occasional one that seems resistant to absorbing juice due to tight wrapping, I've not come across any other issues.

 

[Kevofar]

I use the prepunched flanged DC Smokes had aside from the bad batch awhile ago I dont have any problem with them

 

[Mindfield]

Mindfield, what trouble are you having with the SmokTechs? I'm using the single coils in the 1.8 and 2.8 versions, and other than the occasional one that seems resistant to absorbing juice due to tight wrapping, I've not come across any other issues.[/FONT]

The ones I've tried have been all over the place. Some won't wick, some are too loose and flood, some have a burnt taste either immediately or within an hour or two -- there's a whole thread about this, and it's not just limited to the singles as the subject line suggest. I've been experiencing it since at least February or March. I still have a few 1.7ohm ST's at home in the box -- don't want to use them because every one has come out of the box tasting like burnt crap.

SmokTech have denied anything's been changed in their cartos or that anything is wrong, and have been blaming counterfeits. That may be true but I doubt it, given how widespread this is and how many different suppliers the various vendors involved are using.

 

[vise]

Welcome to the tank side Dusty! And it's only fitting that you resolved all of these problems with a new Phiniac to boot!

 

[Dusty_D]

While the tanks have solved this issue for me, I've noticed that I have to use the 1.7 SmokTechs almost like an atty. Vape for a while and top up 4 or 5 drops. It does taste burnt if I don't do that for an extended period. Is this what you are experiencing? It was no biggie for me because I was used to dripping but I could see how it would render using a carto as worthless. I have never understood how folks say they vape on a carto for hours without topping up.

 

[shades]

Welp sounds like someone doesn't need his Vmod XL anymore *cough*

/me whistles innocently and then gets all the females here to bat their eyelids at Dusty for me because if I batted it would do the opposite of what I am trying to achieve here


what? I dont know what any of you are talking about *cough*

ON topic question... how do you stop the stuff from the cut off wheel getting into the filler and your lungs?

 

[therealcmac]

ON topic question... how do you stop the stuff from the cut off wheel getting into the filler and your lungs?

I've never really thought about it, I figure by the time the liquid hits it, it is going to be heavy and just stick in the poly. As for Dusty, I never have to top off the boges, nor did I have to top off the smok DC's WHEN they were working properly, topping off constantly defeats the purpose of having the tank if you ask me.

 

[Dusty_D]

Welp sounds like someone doesn't need his Vmod XL anymore *cough*

/me whistles innocently and then gets all the females here to bat their eyelids at Dusty for me because if I batted it would do the opposite of what I am trying to achieve here


what? I dont know what any of you are talking about *cough*

ON topic question... how do you stop the stuff from the cut off wheel getting into the filler and your lungs?

I have a high powered electro magnet hovering over the slot as I'm dremel-ing. Jeez dude, I don't know.. I'm just a tank newbie. I've been ignoring the fact that something like that could be happening.

As for the Vmod XL, you could start by asking really nicely. When I say No! You could try upping the ante..and asking again. LOL.

 

[Dusty_D]

I've never really thought about it, I figure by the time the liquid hits it, it is going to be heavy and just stick in the poly. As for Dusty, I never have to top off the boges, nor did I have to top off the smok DC's WHEN they were working properly, topping off constantly defeats the purpose of having the tank if you ask me.

The topping off I refer to is when using the carto itself, not in a tank. About 50% of the devices I drip on, the other 50% are either bottom fed or tank fed. No dripping required there.

Tell ya what though, the Pipe looks really neat with a DCT on it.

Devices being converted to Tank fed in the near future: Provari and Silver Bullet. Have the tanks currently on the Shan mod and the Pipe.

 

[vise]

While the tanks have solved this issue for me, I've noticed that I have to use the 1.7 SmokTechs almost like an atty. Vape for a while and top up 4 or 5 drops. It does taste burnt if I don't do that for an extended period. Is this what you are experiencing? It was no biggie for me because I was used to dripping but I could see how it would render using a carto as worthless. I have never understood how folks say they vape on a carto for hours without topping up.

It depends on a few things. How many slots you have in the carto, and how thick the juice is you are using. If you take a "hard" dry vape you should be able to see a bubble or two come from the slot. This is the indication that juice is being sucked into the carto if your carto is dry. I've gotten in the habit of taking a dry vape every once in a while just to make sure my carto stays saturated. Another problem might be with the number of slots you have. Thicker juices would require two, or maybe three slots. I've had VG juices that I needed 3 slots in the carto before it would start to work properly.
And yes, my XL Phiniac will easily last me a full day of vaping without the need to top up.

 

[mojojo]

you don't even want to see my home made tank.. hahaha!.. it involves a 5ml juice bottle and a cartomizer punched with a nail and hammer.. When my husband saw me use it he gave me that what the... look.. lol

I think I'll stop watching youtube and stick to my stardust.. lol