Also one other quick question.Does anyone ever have some resistance in the plastic bottle when trying to squonk....like it's not squonking at all but just kinda...like the air isn't getting the juice up there,like it's trapped?That's been happening alot today and a few times I've had juice inside the casing-what a mess.
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Check your O rings. There's a little silicone collar up in where the bottle screws in. May have gotten dislodged. Also check the O rings where the collar screws in. Made sure they are lined up in their grooves and secure. Be SURE you don't cross thread the bottle when screwing into the chamber thingy, too.
Checked the o rings-kinda hard for me to see(old eyes)up into the area the bottle screws into.Tried using a magnifying glass under a light-geez,it looks okay,I guess.I probably should have looked at it when I first got the vmod so I would know for sure.Still having the non squonking and liquid coming out.I'm not really sure where it is actually coming from.I tried to not screw the little plastic bottle in so far and that seems to have helped some.Still vapes fine,but the atty is now tasting burnt.Still not gonna blow a carto on this juice.
You should see a little ring or collar of silicone in the chamber where the bottle screws in. It's a sort of opaque whitish color. It should be sitting flush against the metal walls with the hole in the middle clearing (leaving open) the little pin hole thing in the middle. You should be able to gently but firmly screw the bottle all the way up where the shoulders are just about touching the entrance to the chamber. There are two O rings in the top. One is set down deep into a groove inside the Vmod. The other is on the metal collar (not the cone). Wet the O rings and the silicone collar thing with a little PG or VG. Try another bottle. The threads may have gotten damaged (it's just plastic after all). If none of that helps, contact Vapage. They are great with their CS.
Personally, I've found using the atomizers tends to be a bit messier
Personally, I've found using the atomizers tends to be a bit messier
Here's a link to the Vapage site that shows how the o-rings should be installed. You can check the pics against your setup to see if something is off-kilter with your o-rings:
http://69.195.100.69/community/How_to_install_O-ring.pdf
Also, as fourthrok points out, try another bottle in case the threading is off.
I did what you guys suggested and switched out the plastic bottle.So far that has worked the best.I'm back to hearing the squonking and no leaking yet.I had a look a the other bottle and the top thread looks a little chewed up.I think I am over tightening.How many threads do you guys have left that you can see when the bottle is screwed in?I was actually screwing the bottle all the way up even though it is difficult to do.I think I may be an over-squonker!Now I'm going to have to order a bunch of plastic bottles.Also thanks for the link.
I have almost three months on the original atty I clean it once a week by letting it soak in Vodka over night I don't dry burn it's not needed IMHO. I should mention I vape unflavored DIY juice so it's clear and does no clog my devices.
I had the exact same thing happen to one of my bottles so I don't use it any longer next time I place an order I am going to get some spares.
Thanks for the atty info as I really have no experience with them.I will have to pick up some vodka.
As far as the plastic bottles go I just ordered four more.I might be going through those quickly as far as screwing up the threads.It just seems really tight to go all the way up until the bottle is jammed in there.I'm just gonna try to just screw until firm but no further and see if that continues to work for me.I wish there was another place to get these bottles as the price seems a little much to me for two small plastic bottles.Yeah,I'm complaining about the cost.Quite a profit margin.
As far as the plastic bottles go I just ordered four more.I might be going through those quickly as far as screwing up the threads.It just seems really tight to go all the way up until the bottle is jammed in there.I'm just gonna try to just screw until firm but no further and see if that continues to work for me.I wish there was another place to get these bottles as the price seems a little much to me for two small plastic bottles.Yeah,I'm complaining about the cost.Quite a profit margin.
There are threads on the bottle, of course. Also inside the chamber you screw the bottle into. And on the collar. And in the top piece the collar screws into! lol! But the bottle threads can get messed up if handled a bit too roughly. I line my bottle up then support underneath the bottle with my left thumb (I'm right handed) and a finger as level as I can eyeball it then start threading fairly slowly using my right hand until it goes all the way up..just maybe a 1 mm from the shoulder of the bottle touching the chassis at the bottom of the chamber. One snug I stop...I don't torque it in. Haven't had any trouble so far...but I did order an extra set of bottles earlier this month. I like to be prepared! And besides...Vapage sends another little silicon collar thingy with the bottles. Good to have spares of that, too!
You know,of all the things to have trouble with I should have known it would have to be screwing in a plastic bottle!Don't worry though,I'm sure I'll jam something else up shortly!Thanks again everyone for all the help and advice thus far.
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One more interesting thing in case someone is looking.I was having a bit of trouble with my switch.It went like this.I would push down-not quite get a charge,then push harder and it was feeling like the switch was moving sideways and then I would get a hit.Finally after looking around a bit I saw that if you put the flat side of the battery up top then that won't happen.I tried it and it worked!I don't know why it wouldn't seem obvious to me to try that,but it just didn't.So if you're like me,I won't say stupid, try it if you are having difficulties with the switch.
One more atty question.I'm only asking it here because when I type cleaning atty's into the main search mostly the hits are on rebuildables,which I'm not doing yet.I've been vaping on the one atty that I received and I noticed last night that my vapor was dropping off.I switched out batteries to see if that was it,no.So I pulled a new atty out and put it on and that worked.So I guess I need to clean the atty.Is that usually how it goes?I mean is that how you know you need to clean the atty-drop off in vapor?I know it sounds like a silly question but I have only ever used cartomizers so this whole atty thing is a new ball of wax.I'm gonna finally go get some vodka to put the atty in overnight.Then what,just soak it and it will be good,dejunked?Then just let it dry and use again?
One more interesting thing in case someone is looking.I was having a bit of trouble with my switch.It went like this.I would push down-not quite get a charge,then push harder and it was feeling like the switch was moving sideways and then I would get a hit.Finally after looking around a bit I saw that if you put the flat side of the battery up top then that won't happen.I tried it and it worked!I don't know why it wouldn't seem obvious to me to try that,but it just didn't.So if you're like me,I won't say stupid, try it if you are having difficulties with the switch.
One more atty question.I'm only asking it here because when I type cleaning atty's into the main search mostly the hits are on rebuildables,which I'm not doing yet.I've been vaping on the one atty that I received and I noticed last night that my vapor was dropping off.I switched out batteries to see if that was it,no.So I pulled a new atty out and put it on and that worked.So I guess I need to clean the atty.Is that usually how it goes?I mean is that how you know you need to clean the atty-drop off in vapor?I know it sounds like a silly question but I have only ever used cartomizers so this whole atty thing is a new ball of wax.I'm gonna finally go get some vodka to put the atty in overnight.Then what,just soak it and it will be good,dejunked?Then just let it dry and use again?
Well..that explains why I've been tending to favor my flat top batteries! lol!!! I was getting that same weird syndrome with the switch with the button tops...didn't know what was happening! I have mostly flat tops anyway (and just ordered another one) so it's okay. But that's a good tip!
I also would like a more detailed instruction on exactly how one cleans the "Shifu" atomizer (hopefully NOT using the "dry burn" thing). I have some vodka I can use to soak with...but once it's soaked, I'd like to do whatever I'm supposed to do right so I don't kill the thing.
It was interesting to hear about the battery issues, since I have the exact opposite problem. I find flat-tops require too much of a throw for the switch and sometimes does not make solid contact, whereas button tops work 100% of the time. I guess there must be some variation from device-to-device that makes it either favor a button or a flat top battery. (Perhaps the Vmod is like a belly button, and is either an inny or an outy!)
In terms of atty cleaning, I've had very good results by soaking it overnight in vodka (and sometimes a couple of days if I forget about it), then running it through a couple of cycles on my cheapo ultrasonic cleaner I got on Amazon, using vodka for the cleaning solution rather than water. Give it a good rinse afterwards with warm water, let it dry (or blow it out), and good to go.
I've also read (but not actually tried myself) about folks using steam cleaners or the steam wand on an espresso machine to clean them. I'm too clumsy to be that close to hot steam to want to try it out.
In terms of atty cleaning, I've had very good results by soaking it overnight in vodka (and sometimes a couple of days if I forget about it), then running it through a couple of cycles on my cheapo ultrasonic cleaner I got on Amazon, using vodka for the cleaning solution rather than water. Give it a good rinse afterwards with warm water, let it dry (or blow it out), and good to go.
I've also read (but not actually tried myself) about folks using steam cleaners or the steam wand on an espresso machine to clean them. I'm too clumsy to be that close to hot steam to want to try it out.
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Try the Empire Mods 1.8 Bridgeless that's a great Atomizer. I didn't like the 1.5.
Myself, I'm bottom feeding on my Bogger Box using a Reomizer 2 with 400ss and 28g Kanthal Wire.
It's running at .8Ohm 4.0V and the best vape I've ever had.
I have Porous Ceramic Wicks coming in on Monday and I'm stoked it may even get better.
It's interesting you can't compare vaping on a RBA with SS Mesh to the pre-built atomizers.
You can take them up to much higher wattage and it tastes great, not burnt. Maybe because the Wires are bigger an thicker and cover more surface area.
Myself, I'm bottom feeding on my Bogger Box using a Reomizer 2 with 400ss and 28g Kanthal Wire.
It's running at .8Ohm 4.0V and the best vape I've ever had.
I have Porous Ceramic Wicks coming in on Monday and I'm stoked it may even get better.
It's interesting you can't compare vaping on a RBA with SS Mesh to the pre-built atomizers.
You can take them up to much higher wattage and it tastes great, not burnt. Maybe because the Wires are bigger an thicker and cover more surface area.
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I've been soaking my atty since about 12:00pm this afternoon and the coils still look black and gunked up.I guess I can just leave it soaking longer since I have a few.I don't have an ultrasonic cleaner,but it sounds like I need one.I do have a steamer....but dang I'd have to hold the atty with pliers so I don't burn myself.I think the ultrasonic cleaner might work better.Thanks for those tips.
My vapage batteries,they aren't centered so well ...the button isn't centered so well so I think the switch was kinda slipping over and around it.I just felt like I might break the dang switch.Just having a larger flat surface seemed to help with mine....at least with the not breaking it part.
I'm still not in vaping nirvana.....juice crisis still continues.Bloog has been out of stock and I can't find my new flavor,what a nightmare.In the scheme of things it's nothing....but in my everyday functioning it feels so big...
My vapage batteries,they aren't centered so well ...the button isn't centered so well so I think the switch was kinda slipping over and around it.I just felt like I might break the dang switch.Just having a larger flat surface seemed to help with mine....at least with the not breaking it part.
I'm still not in vaping nirvana.....juice crisis still continues.Bloog has been out of stock and I can't find my new flavor,what a nightmare.In the scheme of things it's nothing....but in my everyday functioning it feels so big...
On my Reomizer RBA it's so simple.
I just heat the coils until they are Red Hot and everything burns away.
The RBA is more durable than the stock Atomizers.
Glad you like your RBA's tomzgreat. There are many who do.
I played with that route -- and returned to my shi-fu (slant coil spec) atty's and carto tanks.
LOL -- I also sold my Reo's and bought another Vmod.
I'm glad the OP is enjoying her first mod. When the bottle doesn't squeeze right you might have a trapped air bubble. Just take out the bottle and you may see that liquid is trapped at the top of the bottle. Just poke it and it should go down. When I start getting this type of thing happening I give the mod a bath......and it's gone many weeks without needing one. And, I agree, you may also be screwing it in more than it needs to be. It shouldn't be trashing the bottle the way it has.
Your feed method sounds perfect. Keep doing it that way and you won't be needing tons of bottles as you won't be squonking, just tapping.
The shi-fu can easily last a month or more with pretty steady use. When I notice weakening it either means it's too saturated or close to time to change the battery. Seeing a dark coil does not mean it is gunked up. Once used, it will not go back to it's original look.
There is mountains of data here at ECF on cleaning and dry burning attys. I think I've tried them all and now rarely use any of them but do keep some Vodka around for when I'm inspired to rinse them out. I don't soak them for hours. For me, the shi-fu usually just simply stops working. Also, when new, it can snap and pop and crackle a little bit until it gets broken in.
I played with that route -- and returned to my shi-fu (slant coil spec) atty's and carto tanks.
LOL -- I also sold my Reo's and bought another Vmod.
I'm glad the OP is enjoying her first mod. When the bottle doesn't squeeze right you might have a trapped air bubble. Just take out the bottle and you may see that liquid is trapped at the top of the bottle. Just poke it and it should go down. When I start getting this type of thing happening I give the mod a bath......and it's gone many weeks without needing one. And, I agree, you may also be screwing it in more than it needs to be. It shouldn't be trashing the bottle the way it has.
Your feed method sounds perfect. Keep doing it that way and you won't be needing tons of bottles as you won't be squonking, just tapping.
The shi-fu can easily last a month or more with pretty steady use. When I notice weakening it either means it's too saturated or close to time to change the battery. Seeing a dark coil does not mean it is gunked up. Once used, it will not go back to it's original look.
There is mountains of data here at ECF on cleaning and dry burning attys. I think I've tried them all and now rarely use any of them but do keep some Vodka around for when I'm inspired to rinse them out. I don't soak them for hours. For me, the shi-fu usually just simply stops working. Also, when new, it can snap and pop and crackle a little bit until it gets broken in.
sweet! congrats on the Vmod OP. Bottom feeders are the best. I want a VV one now. With a nice big battery!
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