I hate the use of the word 'analog' to describe cigarettes

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makasin

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Noun 1. An organ or structure that is similar in function to one in another kind of organism but is of dissimilar evolutionary origin. The wings of birds and the wings of insects are analogs.

2. A chemical compound that has a similar structure and similar chemical properties to those of another compound, but differs from it by a single element or group. The antibiotic amoxicillin, for example, is an analog of penicillin, differing from

Its sort of a stretch, but it works for some people.

There's more than one definition of analog, not all pertain to the field of electronics.
yeah but then the ecig would be the analog coz its emulating cigarettes right?
 

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I remember I read somewhere that some or all of the ecig batteries use PWM (pulse width modulation). That makes them quite digital I would say. As far as I know, real cigarettes don't use PWM. You could say they have an analog power supply (ie. not digital).
And yes, I'm nitpicking. Or, as they would say in my country, .....ing ants.

I gotta make this clear tho, cigarettes are NOT analog in any way. An LP is not analog until its connected to an anlog amplifier circuit. Theyre not analog because no electricity is going through it. The ecig could be the analog since it uses electricity and is analogous to a cigarette, id be fine with that, but its a little crappy and since ppl use the terminology anyways thats not gonna happen.
Im fine with ecig or PV or just vaporizer, its just the fact that cigarettes are being called analog for reasons I dont understand because that word has nothing to do with anything related to a cigarette. Oh well haha. Now onto my response to your post:

well SOME use PWM maybe for doing voltage conversions and for regulation, but the voltage that comes into the atomizer is an analog non-fluctuating signal. Its just a 3.7V signal or whatever voltage. I guess you could say that 3.7 is a logical 1 and disconnected is a logical 0, but thats a bit of a stretch as there is no logical operations taking place. Digital only comes into play MAYBE in mods like the Darwin or that one that you can program via USB (forgot the name, but you can set a bunch of params in a program when u connect it), but for the most part, even mods are just mechanical devices that connect the "hot" + electrode to the atomizer center contact and the - electrode to the ground/metal tube to the outer ring of the atty. Thats analog. If the batteries themselves used PWM it would not work for a lot of devies and wouldnt really be a real battey.
 
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. Whenever I can't figure out a proper name to call something, I give it a totally meaninglesss name.

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It has a perfect sense. Every time people invented something totally new, they called it mostly with the new name. They didn't call automobile "a horseless carriage", they called it automobile, didn't they? They didn't call airplane "a flying horseless carriage", they called it airplane, the new word. E-cigs is something totally new.
 

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Does anybody agree with me?
It's probably because Im an electrical engineer and when I hear the term analog, I think analog voltages.
It's not like we are vaping digitally or anything guys. Probably nobody cares, but I thought I would start this thread so we can discuss this (probably for the 100th time). Why cant ppl just refer to them a cigarettes? That's what they are isnt it?
Do you mean analog as in analogous to ecigarettes? Because that is technically incorrect, as ecigs are analogs of cigarettes. Also, ecigs are electrically analog, just like your amplifiers or LPs. They are by definition a set voltage that changes over time. Digital means that there is logic involved, and digital is even a subset of analog. There is no logic circuitry (apart maybe from the darwin) in ecigs. Even those mosfet buttons are analog circuits.
Maybe im just overanalyzing this and being a nerd, but thats my :2c:.

Totally agree, sounds like a tech word, i never use it in here. its a cigarette, not a robot.
 

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The analog term bugs me as well. Electronic cigarettes are analogous to cigarettes. They are cigarette analogs. I prefer to reserve PV for those devices that don't look like cigs at all. The rest are e-cigs.

Regular old cigarettes are called cigs, cigarettes, cancer sticks, coffin nails, etc. but shouldn't be called analogs.

Now real tobacco is a delicious luxury... and no one inhales that stuff on purpose.. so that shouldn't be compared to disgusting cigs. By real I mean high end pipe tobacco and cigars.
 

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now youre just being a smarty poopoopants. :) fair enough, but thats the only word we have for those things.

I recall reading, some while ago, that the term 'pyro' is in use across the pond. I rather like it, as it references the combustive aspect. :evil:

FWIW, I used the term 'analog' initially, when I joined ECF, just cuz that was the lingo. But I don't think it's a good term, for reasons already stated in spades by others. So I now use either 'pyro' or 'cigarette', or 'smoke'.
 

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And my last pet peeve is that when you are letting a juice sit for a few days or weeks to improve its flavor, you are not, in fact, "steeping," you are allowing time for diffusion to take place. Instead of steeping, I say "resting".

I hate that usage. Ugh! One might steep some tobacco in PGA or PG in order to extract nicotine (and flavor etc.), but once you've blended your flavorings, you're aging.

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