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That is for guys that sand blast I think. I can't imagine getting much off that wick. I believe that is what is used in some sand blasting.
You can use a cotton wick i'm told. But then you want a unbleached uncolored one I would think.
This is from an experiment that the OP of that thread, EvilGrym, did.
Here he describes his airborne particle experiment.
Here he describes his airborne particle experiment.
Just be careful. IT BURNS. Trust me, i only needed one experience to say, woopsie, ok this goes in the trash.
That is why cartos etc. are not being made with cotton wicks. A lot of the vendors forums i visit, the vendor want even talk about using cotton to rewick with because of this.
Due to pg intolerance, I am forced to vape vg liquids. I don't care how much I thin it, it just doesnt wick for me like pg did. Between the vg and my vaping technique, cotton is a no go for me.
Just please be careful with it if you decide to use it.
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I'd be willing to bet that you could take anyone, even a non smoker or non vaper and have them exhale onto a glass slide and see particles under a microscope. JMHO
AngelWings I am one of the people that do use cotton, and I actually found it wicked better for me, however I do understand your concern and VG can be a pain in anything other than SS, they do have some tho that have done ss wicks in the vivi novas
Most smoke shops sell filters for RYO, usually less than $2 for a bag of them.
Thanks Nancyr. Vg is a pain. The vivi's have been the first and only tank that wicks the vg for me.
I have seen the ss wick mod for the vivi. I have a Skype scheduled this weekend with someone who is going to help me with this. My saving grace...haha
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I have not smoked in so long I have no idea what is readily available. What ever works, GO FOR IT. Haha
With the blue foam, when my drip tip needs washing, I pull the foam out, soak it in PGA with the drip tip, let it air dry and push it right back in the drip tip.
What ever works for someone, I say run with it.
I don't think there is a right or wrong way to accomplish this goal.It should also be noted that the image is not from exhaled vapor. The microscopic image was from putting a clean microscope slide above the atomizer with a silica wick. The PV was then activated causing vapor to rise from the coils up to the slide where condensation of the vapor occurred.
There was someone in this thread that was mentioning doing some tests with a microscope. If he could do some control tests on the exhaled vapor, then that would be great. I don't know that a control test is needed for the condensation test but another condensation test wouldn't hurt. The more data, the better.
Is it possible to measure the size of the silica under a microscope? i have read small particles around 3 microns can get deep into the lung and can not be cleaned out.
Yeah... it's the INHALED (not exhaled) vapor that we'd want to test....just in case there's more chance of shards. IDK how to set that up though. Glass slide with container around it inhaled through one end, e-cig at the other and slide in the middle?
BTW I'd want to see this with a regular atomizer too. I don't believe it's specific to the VN...atomizers and clearos in general I would think.
BTW I'd want to see this with a regular atomizer too. I don't believe it's specific to the VN...atomizers and clearos in general I would think.
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You are correct It's the really small bits that you need to be worried about. The other thread showed particles that were much too large to be concerned about. Yes I will be able to mesure the particle sizes down to .05µ
I do want to give some frame of reference to anyone reading this. The amount of silica needed to do any real damage is huge and normally takes between 10 and 25 years of exposure to do enough damage to notice. Even if i find sub micron particles it is likely that you could vape for years and you would get less silica in your lungs than spending a week at the beach. (silica sand dust is the principal component of sand :O)
from: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001191/
Silica is a common, naturally-occurring crystal. It is found in most rock beds and forms dust during mining, quarrying, tunneling, and working with many metal ores. Silica is a main part of sand, so glass workers and sand-blasters are also exposed to silica.
Three types of silicosis ocur:
Simple chronic silicosis -- results from long-term exposure (more than 20 years) to low amounts of silica dust. The silica dust causes swelling in the lungs and chest lymph nodes. This disease may cause people to have trouble breathing. This is the most common form of silicosis.
Accelerated silicosis -- occurs after exposure to larger amounts of silica over a shorter period of time (5 - 15 years). Swelling in the lungs and symptoms occur faster than in simple silicosis.
Acute silicosis -- results from short-term exposure to very large amounts of silica. The lungs become very inflamed and can fill with fluid, causing severe shortness of breath and low blood oxygen levels.
Progressive massive fibrosis can occur in either simple or accelerated silicosis, but is more common in the accelerated form. Progressive massive fibrosis causes severe lung scarring and destroys normal lung structures.
People who work in jobs where they are exposed to silica dust are at risk. These jobs include:
Abrasives manufacturing
Glass manufacturing
Mining
Quarrying
Road and building construction
Sand blasting
Stone cutting
Intense exposure to silica can cause disease within a year, but it usually takes at least 10 - 15 years of exposure before symptoms occur. Silicosis has become less common since the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) created regulations requiring the use of protective equipment, which limits the amount of silica dust workers inhale.
from: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001191/
Silica is a common, naturally-occurring crystal. It is found in most rock beds and forms dust during mining, quarrying, tunneling, and working with many metal ores. Silica is a main part of sand, so glass workers and sand-blasters are also exposed to silica.
Three types of silicosis ocur:
Simple chronic silicosis -- results from long-term exposure (more than 20 years) to low amounts of silica dust. The silica dust causes swelling in the lungs and chest lymph nodes. This disease may cause people to have trouble breathing. This is the most common form of silicosis.
Accelerated silicosis -- occurs after exposure to larger amounts of silica over a shorter period of time (5 - 15 years). Swelling in the lungs and symptoms occur faster than in simple silicosis.
Acute silicosis -- results from short-term exposure to very large amounts of silica. The lungs become very inflamed and can fill with fluid, causing severe shortness of breath and low blood oxygen levels.
Progressive massive fibrosis can occur in either simple or accelerated silicosis, but is more common in the accelerated form. Progressive massive fibrosis causes severe lung scarring and destroys normal lung structures.
People who work in jobs where they are exposed to silica dust are at risk. These jobs include:
Abrasives manufacturing
Glass manufacturing
Mining
Quarrying
Road and building construction
Sand blasting
Stone cutting
Intense exposure to silica can cause disease within a year, but it usually takes at least 10 - 15 years of exposure before symptoms occur. Silicosis has become less common since the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) created regulations requiring the use of protective equipment, which limits the amount of silica dust workers inhale.
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