I know, you'll tell me to get a Provari... BUT...!

[Novery]

...They're too big and I just don't like how they look.

Silly? Vane? Maybe. I like my "big" eGo. I fits nicely in my pocket and doesn't look weird.

It doesn't mean I won't end up with a Provari, but I'm really resisting it. Every time I look at my shopping cart on the Provari website, I cringe just a little, partially at the price and partially at the look of it. Mostly the latter, really.

I keep coming back to things that I've found on this forum (long time lurker, first time poster), the Valkyrie and Semovar (and something Ant -- can't remember). I'd rather not spend that kind of money, of course. I'm not a 100% comitted vaper.

Can anyone help me find an appropriate device?

I want something:

1. good, no tune ups, no fussing, no contraptions
2. to replace my eGo style batteries
3. ****EDITED****
4. I don't want one of those boxes
5. I don't know enough to know what it means when they talk about "hybrids", "mechanical" etc. And quite frankly, I don't care to learn. I just want something that works and works well.

If it's the Provari that I should get, let me know. But if there's an alternative that fits that description better, would love to hear from you guys.

If I sound a little frustrated it's because I don't know where to find a list of devices that are good and I feel like I've spent too much time on this. Every store seems to have its own small lines, and I just need a Vape Depot that has everything in one place so I can pick.

With thanks in advance.


Edit by: Uno mas

<---- Really ?!?! Wow. [OP] Yes really, let it be.... Uno [Mod]

 

[Talyon]

Ummmmm, REO.

Notice I didn't tell u to get a PROVARI.

 

[basylica]

I *just* hit buy on a provari and i've been vaping awhile.
I reccomend to newbies, or first step upgrades to those who use a standard ego to get a variable voltage ego. Vision spinner is the route I went and i've had several lovers of them when I lent them out, joytech makes a ego twist, and kanger makes a variable ego/evod battery.
all about the same cost and price range.

if you already have stuck a toe into variable you are pretty much left with 2 options, go with a larger round mod like a provari, but there are TONS of options - I bought 2 sigelei zmaxs...I paid like 32 shipped for one of them. Vamo is another popular version, also super cheap. under 40 at fasttech.

second option is a box mod, the MPV is really cool and I was considering one too - but the provari called me.
the button is hella stiff on it, but I suspect like most things you get used to it.

if you don't want to go bigger than a ego, then your options are pretty much...egos. lol.
but aint no shame! if you love them and you use them....then embrace it

 

[Kaisen]

What are you looking to accomplish? What does your Ego-style battery not do that you want it to? Last longer? Charge via USB? More vapor production? Warmer vape? Better flavor? Replaceable battery? Rebuildable components?

There might just be a "better" ego-style battery for you. Or maybe a smallish-APV like an Innokin iTaste vv 3.0.

Or maybe what you're looking to accomplish could be done by changing the style/brand of topper you're using. What are you using now? What do you like about it? What DON'T you like about it?

 

[Asbestos4004]

I was surprised at how small the ProVari actually is. A mini is under 4". You won't find much smaller . I had the same thoughts as you. With a provari ring and an ibtanked carto tank, its actually quite elegant. The semovar is very nice and as far as I know, in the same league as provari...but its a bit longer.

 

[basylica]

if you want to try out a round mod, i'd suggest doing the same thing I did which is buy a cheaper version. sure, if you end up buying a provari later you'll have spent more, but if you discover you don't like the bigger mod then you'll have spent less.
and if you buy a cheaper one you'll have a backup later.

lots and lots of love for the VAMO - so you can't go too terribly wrong there. I went with zmax because they had ego threading and vamo didn't at the time. They do now I believe.

if you are not doing variable egos though, pick one up. they really are WAAAAYYYY better.

 

[Novery]

Wow, thanks for the quick responses! In reverse chronilogical:

eGo batteries, for reasons I can't explain burn out and don't hold a charge. I have "real" JoyeTech ones, but they just don't last long and their power becomes pitiful after a short while.

As far as trying to accomplish? Vape. And longer batteries (mostly in terms of longer consistent lifespan). I live in Toronto and getting devices is a pain -- I can't just run out to a store -- they don't seem to exist here except CanVape who I won't go to again.

I'm perfectly happy with the vapour I get from the eGo (maybe I'd change my mind if I tried something better -- probably so) when the batteries are in good condition, but would be open to better, which is where the Valkyrie and Semovar idea came from.

I read stuff about the Vamo being a fire hazard and breaking easily. I don't want to buy and buy and buy. I just want a good device, period. Doesn't have to do the hokey pokey -- just has to work consistently. As for the REO, Googled it and it's a box. Maybe I'm excessively vane, but I wouldn't be able to bring myself to pull that out in public.

 

[patrao_n]

Or you can just buy the provari. If it doesnt suit you well then become a verified member. Then sell on the classifieds here at ecf. Recoup most of your money back.

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[suspectK]

I don't know what you want to get that isn't a tube or a box...I think the ego's look like *EDITED*..there's more than one size in everything. Maybe itaste vv 3.0? That is more rectangular than square looking. Outside of that...there's nothing that isn't shaped like a cheap dildo or box..

But I have to go with kaisen...what are you not getting out of what you're already using? I think the semovar is a tad bit too advanced for you to even look into right now.. That is a really big jump from ego batteries.

Is your issue with the provari the cone on the top? Most people that have them, use the beauty ring to be flush with their delivery devices. If the cone shape is the problem...that's easier to handle.

 

[Baditude]

A mini Provari is one of the smallest and shortest mods available on the market. It is actually shorter than an Ego, just a little stouter in diameter. Just do what I do: keep a couple of spare batteries in a plastic battery case and keep that in your pocket. An AW 18350 battery lasts me a good 6 - 7 hours.



While choosing your first mod, keep in mind the future customer service of the manufacturer and repairability of the mod. All the Chinese-made mods will have a much shorter warranty than a Provari (1 year), and after the warranty expires, consider the mod a throwaway. There are few Chinese-made mods that are used on a daily basis that will reach their first birthday. Provape will repair a Provari for as long as you own it and have it back to you within a week for very reasonable costs.

Concerning the Semovar, how readily available are they? Provari's are easily available and can be received within 3 - 4 days of your order. How is the customer service of the Semovar? Provape has a well-deserved reputation for great customer service.

 

[Novery]

For me it's the "ridges" that make it look like a sex toy, plus its beefy look. What Ilike about the others that I mentioned is they don't look like they belong in a swinger's club. They look like cigarettes with a cool design.

 

[Asbestos4004]

The provari mini has no ridges ....it has pips. Its pipped, for her pleasure.

 

[Jayvaps]

itaste vv\vw3?

It is square instead of a tube, but not a box mod.

EDIT to add a post I made with picture of it with a carto tank from ibtanked recently.

here are two pics of the 19 on an itaste vw3 with two different beauty rings.

If you think the look is too wide, you would probably want to go with a 15. I like the look of the 19mm wide though on it personally. This is also a standard length(35mm) tank btw.

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[gingersnaps]

I have an evic which is a larger device but cheaper than a provari but I also still like the small size of an ego. I have an itaste vv/vw that is simialr in size to an ego but I really like changable batteries so I am actually thinking of getting a super ego vv/vw. I can have an ego my vv/vw and smaller changable batteries all in one here is a link to one I just found

super variable voltage battery S2


if you are thinking of a larger 18650 device though the cheapest I can think of is a vamo for about 50.00. its one of many on my current wish list.

 

[Laythor]

If you're looking for compact, why not zoidb... i mean, why not microstick? MicroStick (pre-order; shipping till November, 30) - Mini ECIG

 

[Credo]

I've found the kick button to be a no brainer.

The genuine Evolv Kick 2 cost around $45, but it will fit almost any 18650 or 18500 mod of your choice given the right length battery.
Evolv Kick 2

It has a single pot you set to your preferred wattage, from 5 to 15 watts (from 3v to 6ish) with the Kick 2.
The Kick 2 can handle atomizers/cartos from 0.5 to 3ohms.
It gives you extra safety with the IMR batteries.

If you find one on sale, the older Kick 1 is also good, but not as flexible/powerful.
It does from 5 - 10 watts, and cannot take those sub-ohm atties.
The Kick by Evolv

For the most part, you set it and forget it.

Just drop it in the tube of any 18mm diameter unregulated mod, then put the proper length IMR high drain battery in behind it.

In my opinion, it's the only thing readily available for so little money that comes even close to the quality of a Provari based on a 3.7v battery in terms of the boosting abilities and signal quality (can vary depending on the quality of the mod you slip it into).

Cons compared to a ProVari...the battery vape time might be a little shorter...otherwise a comparable vape. Have to take it out of the mod to adjust it. You're not likely to get as 'bullet proof' of a set-up. ProVaris just WORK, and can take a hell of alot of 'abuse'. Plus, good warranty and service.

Pros Over the ProVari...Possible to build a much cheaper set-up. You can do sub-Ohm stuff that the Provari doesn't handle as well (with Kick 2 Only). Many choices in body looks/styles. You can put together a much 'shorter' and 'lighter' mod.

There are also Kick 'clones'. While they're worth the $20ish, they're not nearly as nice or powerful as the Kick 2 by Evolv.
Smoktech Kick VW Booster

In short, with a Kick button...
You can have your choice of dozens, if not hundreds of 18500/650 mods, ranging from as little as $30, to as much as you want to pay.

Without spending as much or more than the cost of a Provari...the Kick is about as close as it gets to the vape quality (electronically that is), yet you can CHOOSE from a massive array of shapes/sizes/styles/price ranges of tubes/boxes.

Here's a small sample of sub-$50 mods that can be 'kicked'.
Note, these links don't represent the best prices out there...just meant to give an idea of some of your options:
http://www.madvapes.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=plastic+bolt
http://www.myvaporstore.com/SmokTech_Bolt_E_Cigarette_s/81.htm
http://www.litecigusa.net/Smoktech_Magneto_p/smok-magneto.htm
http://www.litecigusa.net/Kamry_K101_Empire_Mod_p/k101-mod.htm
http://www.litecigusa.net/Kamry_K100_Empire_Mod_p/k100-mod.htm
http://www.litecigusa.net/Smoktech_Natural_p/smok-natural.htm

This barely scratches the surface...and of course you can find much nicer/more expensive stuff...but then you're rivaling or surpassing the cost of a Provari kit by the time you add a genuine Kick 2.

While some of these look pretty gaudy in photos...many of them can be configured quite short...so
they aren't even seen in your fist as you vape.

In summary: Getting a ProVari is more like getting a high end Mac Computer. You don't get as many styles and options, but it's a solid build for years to come. It'll just WORK, and WORK WELL, for a very long time. The company can stand by it because they only have a few models to bother with and 'perfect'.

A 'cheaper' unregulated Mod with a Kick 2 would be more like getting a PC. Lots of options and choices...you can spend a little or a LOT...mix and match..etc..but it will be up to YOU to make it run well with all your chosen bits.

Credo

 

[Kaisen]

Ego batteries are all the same, really. They are all filled with the same battery cells inside. The 350-1100mAh Ego-styles are all 14mm in diameter and only vary in length (even if variable volt or USB passthrough.....the tallest is 122mm in length). The Ego-style 1300mAh batteries are larger, 17mm in diameter.

A "mod" with a replaceable battery all use the same diameter replaceable battery -- the same form factors -- that dictate their tube diameter. So Provari, or EVIC, or SID, or whatever, they're all similar. The batteries themselves are a little over 18mm in diameter, so the tube is typically around 23mm in overall diameter. The good news is that since the batteries are larger, they last longer (more mAh....up to 3400!).

When a battery has a higher mAh, it will last longer on a charge (of course), but also last longer overall because it will need fewer charge cycles. Whether it is a little battery or a big one, these Lithium Ion blends are typically good for 300 cycles before they are ready for the trash.

If you're happy with the size, looks, and performance of a Ego-style battery, why pay $200 for something that "lasts longer"......you can buy 10 replacement Egos to have as backups for backups for that kind of coin.

I'd suggest trying a 1300mAh 17mm Ego to see what you think. Or at least a 1000-1100mAh 14mm version.

 

[alisa1970]

I haven't seen it mentioned yet, so I'll just throw it out there:

Joyetech eMode Electronic Cigarette

About the size of a 1300mAh spinner, but I think it's a little more narrow. 2100mAh battery, 4 different VV/VW modes, software package like the eVic (if you're interested in using it).

It's super new, so not a lot of feedback yet, but the specs look nice. Sell for $129.00, you can buy at various places, but this is a reputable dealer:

https://www.cignot.com/product_p/kit-mod-stn.htm

 

[Kaisen]

I haven't seen it mentioned yet, so I'll just throw it out there:

Joyetech eMode Electronic Cigarette

About the size of a 1300mAh spinner, but I think it's a little more narrow. 2100mAh battery, 4 different VV/VW modes, software package like the eVic (if you're interested in using it).

It's super new, so not a lot of feedback yet, but the specs look nice. Sell for $129.00, you can buy at various places, but this is a reputable dealer:

https://www.cignot.com/product_p/kit-mod-stn.htm

The eMode is 18mm, which is narrower than a typical mod (~23mm), but wider than a regular Ego (14mm) or 1300mAh Ego (17mm). At $129 MSRP it's more than most mods that may have more features and longer battery life. So you'd have to really love that narrower body.

 

[alisa1970]

To each his/her own.


Like I said, just throwing it out there.