I know, you'll tell me to get a Provari... BUT...!
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Bingo. That's the form factor I'm looking for. I don't get it -- what features do I need/am I missing out on? How do you know the battery life is going to be less than another one?
That's kind of what I want to know. It sounded like a good fit to me for what you were looking for. Less $$ than a provari, plus you have the VW feature, built-in 3ml tank, bells/whistles like the eVic but much smaller form factor.
It's definitely NOT going to be as durable as the Provari though.
There's only one youtube review so far and it's in German, but you can watch with the volume down and at least see the thing in action.
Sanyo is a well-respected battery manufacturer. The Sanyo 16650 2100 mAh battery admittedly is a rare battery and will be difficult to find as most vendors do not carry them. 100 mAh is equal to 1 hour, roughly. So 2100 mAh "should" last about 21 hours on a charge.
As stated above, the way to estimate how long a battery should last on a charge is by knowing the mAh rating. 100 mAh = 1 hour. 600 mAh = 6 hours. 1000 mAh = 10 hours.
The Joy eMode has a rather strange way to use variable voltatage /wattage which I'm not familiar with; certainly not the typical way that the majority of mods perform.
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Ok. It appears you likes your eGos - but you want to move away from there. And you are eyeballing a Prothingy... probably because of your "eGo issues" already mentioned. (That could be taken more than one way but...)
The part that's missing right now: What thingys do you like to you like to use on your eGos? What devices are you using and what resistance do you like? That will help to understand what might be happening to the eGos, and whether a Provari is your only choice - or what else might be an option.
The part that's missing right now: What thingys do you like to you like to use on your eGos? What devices are you using and what resistance do you like? That will help to understand what might be happening to the eGos, and whether a Provari is your only choice - or what else might be an option.
Ok. It appears you likes your eGos - but you want to move away from there. And you are eyeballing a Prothingy... probably because of your "eGo issues" already mentioned. (That could be taken more than one way but...)
The part that's missing right now: What thingys do you like to you like to use on your eGos? What devices are you using and what resistance do you like? That will help to understand what might be happening to the eGos, and whether a Provari is your only choice - or what else might be an option.
The part that's missing right now: What thingys do you like to you like to use on your eGos? What devices are you using and what resistance do you like? That will help to understand what might be happening to the eGos, and whether a Provari is your only choice - or what else might be an option.
So true. That is often an overlooked feature about the Provari. Buy once, cry once. Regret the purchase - never.
All mods of Chinese origin will have a very limited length warranty. Once the warranty runs out and the mod stops working, consider it a throw-away. China doesn't do repair work, they expect you to purchase another one. "We make cheap. You buy cheap. It break, you buy another."
Provape gives a 1 year warranty on the Provari, option to purchase a second year for $25. After their warranty expires, you can still get the Provari repaired by Provape for reasonable cost for as long as you own your Provari. Typical repair time is less than 1 week. The Provari is a great choice for the long term vapor. It will last as long as you want it to.
Provari Standard Service Repair Costs:
Replace Window and screws- $10.00
Replace Circuit Board - $65.00
Upgrade to V2 - $20.00
Replace plastic pushbutton - $5.00
Repairs to the circuit board - $25.00
Cleaning - $20.00
Replace top cap - $15.00
Broken Cartomizer Service - $10.00
Return shipping within the USA - $5.00
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Batteries are measured in mAh or Milliamp Hours. The larger the number, the longer the battery will perform between charges.
The Joyetech eMode uses a Sanyo 16650 battery (approximately 16mm wide and 65.0mm tall, hence the "16" and "650" numbers) that is rated at 2100mAh. It is not a common form factor to e-cigs, but is used in some other types of electronics. Since it isn't as common, so demand is a little lower, it is more expensive per mAh. Joyetech lists the replacement battery at $17.99.
What features is it missing, other than the larger batteries of a typical 18xxx battery form-factor mod? Really, the big one is a display. When you get into the $100+ variable watt and variable volt mods, you typically have a OLED display that will show you your current volt/watt setting as well as battery life left, date/time, puffs, and even checks and displays the resistance of the atomizer coil affixed to the unit at the time. You'll have to decipher blinking lights to see what the eMode is doing.
Also, since a 18mm diameter is relatively proprietary, many tanks will be too big or too small and look funny on the top of that battery. So you're likely stuck with the $23 eMode tanks which might be great, but don't give you the dozens of options like you would if you stuck with the Ego style (~14mm) or Mod style (~22mm).
The eMode's variable functions are only good from 3.3v to 5.0v, and 4.5w to 11.0w..... that's fairly limited. Mods typically run to 15.0 watts and sometimes to 18.0 watts.
You can get an Ego to look just like that eMode, just slightly smaller, for less than half the price.
You will have to deal with the delivery system
That is where all of my fuss used to be.Oh, by the way, I'm not knocking the eMode. It might be great. Just pointing out some of the reasons why they haven't taken the market by storm.
Again, the OP professed not to need or want the extra features (vv/vw). So why, then, pay for them? A 1000/1300mAh Ego with your favorite glassomizer is well under $50, almost anywhere in any brand.
Again, the OP professed not to need or want the extra features (vv/vw). So why, then, pay for them? A 1000/1300mAh Ego with your favorite glassomizer is well under $50, almost anywhere in any brand.
2.5 ohm EVOD with replaceable wicks. Other than the original plastic mouthpiece htat came with my original starter kit, I haven't tried anything else.
My big gripe with the eGos is that the batteries die so quickly (I barely hold a charge). I don't know if the same would happen if I bought a Provari or eMode or whatever, but the goal here is to get something that is more reliable and doesn't crap out/become super-weak so quickly.
Maybe this is the nature of the beast -- maybe a Provari would have the same issue because the battery would die. That, I guess, is what I'm trying to understand for all intents and purposes.
I don't mind paying more. I just want something that'll "just work".
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1300mAh Twist or Spinner. I have had my generic Spinner from AltSmoke since May, and it lasts me at least a full day with no problems, always works flawlessly. It's my workhorse. $25 bucks.
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Batteries are batteries. 1000mAh is 1000mAh. Everything we've discussed uses lithium ion chemistry. If anything, turning up the watts and volts and/or lowering the resistance (ohms) of the coil(s) use MORE battery.....more Milliamps per drag/toot/puff/whatev.
The Provari uses the exact same battery as any other mod (EVIC, SID, SVD, etc) or mech. Again, you could put the exact same 18350/18650 battery of whatever manufacturer you prefer (Panasonic, Sanyo, IWR, etc) in ANY mod with that size tube. When the battery finally croaks (in 300ish cycles +/-) then you can buy a new replacement battery rather than buying a whole new unit like you would with an Ego.
What size battery do you currently have in your Ego? 650? 900? 1000? How many Ego batteries do you have? Most of us have at least two and often several. One on the charger, one or two in use, one charged and ready. You get the idea. That's easier to do when using $20 batteries. Again, you could buy ten (10) large 1000mAh Ego batteries for the cost of one Provari. That's 10,000mAh, always in rotation.
I can't really speak about the E-mod, I know very little about it.
I can speak about the Provari. I have two. My first, a standard size, is 18 months old and I've never had a problem with it. With the battery extension cap I can go the entire day 6 am to 11 pm at night on a single 18650 2000 mAh battery. Admittedly, its a little large for my front pocket, but I carried it this way for several months until I purchased my Mini Provari 8 months ago. It also has been dependable and reliable.
The Mini goes 6 - 7 hours per battery, and I carry a couple spares with me should I need them for the entire day. Takes 1 minute to make a battery change.
The Provari is well known to be the most reliable and dependable mod made. There's a good reason why the Provari is so popular.
standard size Provarihttp://www.smallfish.co.nz/image.as...ChaHJNg4opANqWoo5MVKr71AYWNJkvALpfavlFpxlBQ==
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There are quite a few devices but not all of them that have the same problem of being basically throw away devices. On batteries they will degrade over time. Good batteries of course will last longer.
If I had not ever picked a Provari I probably would have gone Reo.
Batteries store energy. As you vape, they all get depleted and need to be recharged. Nature of the beast.
My mini ProVari uses a 700 mAh battery and lasts about the same time as my 650 mAh eGo-C Twist.
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I have a Smoov Rev (don't know its rating, but it's decent size, so I'm guessing in the 1000 range) and a smaller Joyetech... 650, maybe?
The Joyetech has outlasted the Rev which is literally running on fumes (wokka wokka wokka)., but they both produce virtually no vapour at this point to the point of being frustrating to use.
I have no idea why, but I seem to crank through these things super quickly. The Rev, I was told when I bought it, should last 300 charges. I don't cycle more than once a day, and I maybe got a month out of it before it became intolerable to use (like it is now) which makes me want to get something better.
But if batteries are batteries, as you say, then I guess I just have to buy more of them. Dunno.
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Batteries store energy. As you vape, they all get depleted and need to be recharged. Nature of the beast.
Yeah, I get that. My issue isn't how long they last before needing to be recharged, it's how long before a recharge barely does anything.
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